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03-31-2011 02:34 PM#451
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'
That mini sun will explode like a bomb taking out all the plants around it. Japan is done. Lets hope it doesn't kill everything with the aftermath, and thats as positive as I can be.
I hope to god I'm wrong.
Yes Cayce did predict this. In the same way Atlantis went down by misuse of natural forces, so too will Japan. sad2.gif

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03-31-2011 02:59 PM#452
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'
The woo-woo in me is in full flight now chuckle.gif

China is detecting radiation from Fukushima now, 'nothing to see here, move along' of course. But if Chinese goods are irradiated the US can cut off shipments (escalate protectionism) and China has no cause to bitch. Also, Iran. Bushehr is up and running but can't be taken out without fall-out, they do that, a strategic strike and blame it on Japan. Of course other sites will be taken out like the gov and military HQs. For all they're supposed to be among the smartest in the world, the Japanese were really really ğkking stupid to put these reactors there and it's almost like GE planned for this, what with the storage pools above the reactors. I can tell you one thing that happens next. GE gets a huge bail-out from the US gov.
03-31-2011 03:07 PM#453
Accidental StonerMember
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'
Hirose Takashi-san terring it rike it is:

http://www.counterpunch.org/takashi03222011.html

Sorry to waste your time if posted before.

Good read.
03-31-2011 03:16 PM#454
UpāsakaMember
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'
THE ROBOTS WILL SAVE US FROM NUCLEAR DOOM.gaah.gif
Japan nuclear plant gets help from US robots

Obama administration sends shipment of robots to help regain control over stricken Fukushima nuclear plant

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar...-us-robots

The robots didn't work in Chenobyl due to the radiation malfunction.

They had to send in 'Bio Robots' extraordinary men, reservists. To clean up the mess, giving their lives.





We're already at a confirmed level 6, how in the hell are these new robots going to work, especially if the area they need to get to is flooded with radioactive saltwater?gaah.gif
03-31-2011 03:38 PM#455
UpāsakaMember
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'


03-31-2011 04:51 PM#456
KreeperGriobhtha
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'
Looking at the pics of those poor techs that are going to die slow, terrible deaths because of their efforts during this meltdown had me thinking. I considered entering the NAVY at one point. I even took the ASVAB. All the recruiter would talk to me about was nuke school. I sure am glad I told him to piss off.

İmage
And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
03-31-2011 04:58 PM#457
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'
Me too Kreeper! cheers.gif In a major way, and for so many reasons! hi5.gif
Quote:P said: We're already at a confirmed level 6, how in the hell are these new robots going to work, especially if the area they need to get to is flooded with radioactive saltwater?

It seems overwhelmingly impossible P sad2.gif I'm not so certain any type of electronics can handle that amount of radiation.

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03-31-2011 05:11 PM#458
UpāsakaMember
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'
Japan radiation detected in at least 15 states and in milk samples in Washington state

http://www.naturalnews.com/031909_radiation_milk.html


Quote:(NaturalNews) Radioactive isotopes unique to the Fukushima disaster are now being detected in at least 15 US states, according to recent reports from CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/03/2...). And the Associated Press (AP) has issued a report claiming that milk samples taken in Washington state have tested positive for low levels of the same radioactive component, Iodine-131, raising concerns about the true widespread effects of the Fukushima nuclear fallout

The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and various state and local authorities continue to repeat the same empty reassurances that all detected levels of radiation -- whether they be in air, water, or food -- are far below levels of concern, and that people do not need to worry or do anything in response. But is this sound advice?

Earlier in the week, several nuclear facilities in North and South Carolina, as well as in Florida, reportedly detected low levels of Iodine-131 in the air (http://www.naturalnews.com/031881_r...). That same radiation has also been detected across the West Coast, as well as in northeastern states like Pennsylvania and Massachusetts, which clearly indicates that Fukushima radiation has made its way throughout the US, at least in very low levels.

But now, reports have been issued claiming that milk samples from Washington state have also turned up contaminated with Iodine-131. The levels were allegedly far lower than the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) concern limits for the radioactive particles, but they are not necessarily safe even at the levels being detected.

According to the FDA "Radiation Safety" website, the Derived Intervention Level (DIL) for Iodine-131 is 170 becquerels per kilogram (Bq/kg) (http://www.fda.gov/newsevents/publi...). A Wall Street Journal report of the milk incident explains that the Washington samples contained only 0.8 picocuries per liter (pCi/l), or 0.03 Bq/kg. That level is clearly far lower than the FDA's DIL for Iodine-131, but is any level of this radiation actually "safe"? And what about the other more serious types of radioactive particles being emitted from Fukushima that authorities appear to not even be looking for?

Based on Japanese guidelines for radiation safety, Iodine-131 is the least of our worries. Cesium, uranium, and plutonium all have much lower maximum "concern" thresholds, with plutonium being the most serious. A Bloomberg report explains that just one Bq/kg of plutonium is enough to cause major concern if found in water or milk (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...). Are authorities testing for plutonium and the other serious radioactive particles that we know have escaped from the Fukushima plant?

The mainstream media has mostly abandoned the Fukushima incident in favor of the newly-instigated war in Libya. And yet reports are still continuing to trickle in -- though mostly without much fanfare -- concerning Japan radiation popping up across the US in air, water, and now food. But all the while, the EPA and others repeatedly dismiss the situation as being no big deal, despite the fact that conditions at Fukushima have basically reached a frightening dead end (http://www.naturalnews.com/031894_F...).

As we keep saying here at NaturalNews, preparedness is key. And preparedness, of course, does not involve panic. It does, however, involve using your critical thinking skills to evaluate the seriousness of the situation, consider the anomalies surrounding the official US government position on it, and take appropriate steps to prepare you and your family for whatever may soon come as a result.
03-31-2011 05:14 PM#459
OctoMother Superior
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'
nice compilation of info P damned.gif
03-31-2011 05:18 PM#460
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'
Quote:The levels were allegedly far lower than the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) concern limits for the radioactive particles, but they are not necessarily safe even at the levels being detected.

There is no 'safe' with Gamma rays, Caesium-137, Plutonium, Neutron bursts etc. these are not found in normal background radiation here.

When I see the msm say no cause for concern, I really get worried.
It's their job to lie and most so called journalists will admit it privately.

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03-31-2011 05:23 PM#461
UpāsakaMember
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'
Quote:nice compilation of info P
-Thank the guys at natural news, I had to post the whole article, so informative.
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I guess this is something we can all do.

Dr. Emoto, the Crystal Water Man
Dr. Emoto sent a message to the world concerning the waters in the Japan reactors. He calls for prayers. Here is his message:

To All People Around the World

Dr Emoto's prayerPlease send your prayers of love and gratitude to water at the nuclear plants in Fukushima, Japan!

By the massive earthquakes of Magnitude 9 and surreal massive tsunamis, more than 10,000 people are still missing…even now… It has been 16 days already since the disaster happened. What makes it worse is that water at the reactors of Fukushima Nuclear Plants started to leak, and it’s contaminating the ocean, air and water molecule of surrounding areas.

Human wisdom has not been able to do much to solve the problem, but we are only trying to cool down the anger of radioactive materials in the reactors by discharging water to them.

Is there really nothing else to do?

I think there is. During over twenty year research of hado* measuring and water crystal photographic technology, I have been witnessing that water can turn positive when it receives pure vibration of human prayer no matter how far away it is.

* “Hado is the intrinsic vibrational pattern at the atomic level in all matter, the smallest unit of energy. Its basis is the energy of human consciousness.” (Emoto)

Energy formula of Albert Einstein, E=MC2 really means that Energy = number of people and the square of people’s consciousness.

Now is the time to understand the true meaning. Let us all join the prayer ceremony as fellow citizens of the planet earth. I would like to ask all people, not just in Japan, but all around the world to please help us to find a way out the crisis of this planet!! The prayer procedure is as follows.

Name of ceremony:
“Sending our thoughts of love and gratitude to all water in the nuclear plants in Fukushima, Japan”

Day and Time:
March 31st, 2011 (Thursday)
12:00 noon in each time zone
And at noon each day thereafter.

Please say the following phrase:
“The water of Fukushima Nuclear Plant, we are sorry for your suffering. Please forgive us. We thank you. We love you.”

Please say the prayer aloud or in your mind.
Repeat three times with hands in a prayer position.
Please offer your sincere prayer.

Thank you very much from my heart (to your heart).
With love and gratitude,
Masaru Emoto
Messenger of Water


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03-31-2011 05:28 PM#462
OctoMother Superior
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'
I've seen that water guy...very interesting stuff, I think I'll follow his suggestion. It won't make things worse hug.gif
03-31-2011 05:36 PM#463
OctoMother Superior
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RE: UPDATE 16! VIDEO 'Mox Reactor 3 Raging Nuclear Meltdown In Progress'
"indifference does the greatest harm"



03-31-2011 07:48 PM#464
OctoMother Superior
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UPDATE 17! radioactive substance about 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER
A radioactive substance about 10,000 times the limit was detected from groundwater around the No. 1 reactor of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Thursday.

A Tokyo Electric official said the radiation level is ''extremely high.''


http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/82382.html

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03-31-2011 08:11 PM#465
UpāsakaMember
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found from groundwater
I better pray and apologize to the water more often, to keep up with the exponential increase in the radiation.

If its that high in the ground water, which I assume is source the for tap water in the region, including Tokyo. Mass evacuations can't be far off.

IAEA are even telling what the Japanese Gov what to do, to increase the exclusion by another 10 miles. As dangerously high Levels of cesium-137 have been detected in villages in these far away areas. The Jap Gov, have dismissed these claims from the IAEA.
03-31-2011 08:30 PM#466
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found from groundwater
The Japanese government is in denial, at least on the surface. If there is plutonium in the groundwater / potable water supplies it game over. They should have been making plans to save people, instead they are lying and denying, what we all know governments do best aside from fondling children and removing civil liberties.

You cant find this latest update anywhere on any news other than the linked source, no message boards on the internet have this at the moment.

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03-31-2011 09:20 PM#467
OctoMother Superior
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found from GROUNDWATER
Wow! I found this news originally on our local news online and they're citing FNB (Finnish News Agency)-Reuters as their source. However they say that it's the water-filled tunnels that has this amount of radiation not the groundwater as the Kyodo news says damned.gif

http://www.ot.fi/Story/?linkID=149421
03-31-2011 11:10 PM#468
OctoMother Superior
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found from GROUNDWATER
Posted: 3/31/2011
TOKYO (AP) — Officials with Japan's crippled nuclear plant say the groundwater under one reactor has radiation levels 10,000 times greater than the government health standard. But a spokesman for Tokyo Electric Power says it doesn't believe drinking water is affected.


http://www.9and10news.com/Category/Story...6635&cID=3


incredible, we posted this over 3 hours ago and it was on AP an hour ago damned.gif wtf
04-01-2011 12:02 AM#469
OctoMother Superior
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found from GROUNDWATER
Workers continue to search for the cause of leaking contaminated water. The government reported today that radioactive contamination in groundwater 15 yards beneath one of the facility's six reactors was measured at 10,000 times the government standard.

http://www.necn.com/03/31/11/Japan-seeks...90050e1d87

15 yards is 13,7 meters. ğck ! aaah2.gif
04-01-2011 02:14 AM#470
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
That means simply, that it's leached into groundwater and into the water table. Dependent upon the connection with other underground aquifers, and in conjunction with soil types any variety of scenarios could occur.

I took a look at soil types around the plant and came up with the following:

The plant itself appears to sit on what the asian soils map refers to as sand dune soils, surrounded by various types of other soils. From North to south moving counterclockwise around the site, we have Andosols, Gray Lowland soils and Brown Lowland Soils, Red-yellow Podzolic Soils and Lithsols and finally, more Gray Lowland soils.

Soil Map Source: http://eusoils.jrc.ec.europa.eu/esdb_arc...000_so.jpg

Initially the positive thing is that all of this area naturally drains toward the sea. The less than fantastic news is based on my own experience sand acts as a filter and underground it can drain any number of ways. Being surrounded with 4 different mainly lowland Asiatic soil classifications could mean the potential exists for trouble.

Usually dune areas going into lowlands have what geologists term sand stringers, they are literally vein like conduits where water can seep for miles into even clay soils.

So good news and bad, once more. Good news is, at least on paper, most is draining away from the aquifer. (but going into the ocean, if that can be considered positive)

The bad news is with concentrations 10,000 times acceptable radiation levels we have a situation where a very small amount has the potential for long term critical damage to the aquifer.

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04-01-2011 02:45 AM#471
CynicalabsurdanceMember
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Day of the Dolphin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And, we Said:

The Earth is not your Toy
to play with until

You get tired of it
and put it on the shelf

The Earth, is not to destroy
so stop, and stand still

you are mired in it
think of someone
other than yourself.

The Sea is not your Toilet
to dump all your shït

stop your boilers
stop your madness

stop the insanity
stop, it's sadness

stop your vanity
stop , it's madness

Insane as you can be.

Well, your not so Humane
are you Humanity

No, you are insane
destructive insanity.

Well, looks like you got
your wish.

so it's,,,
So Long and Thanks
for all the Fish


Rog'
04-01-2011 08:41 AM#472
OctoMother Superior
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
NEWS ADVISORY: Groundwater highly likely polluted with radiation despite TEPCO error
11:58 1 April

NEWS ADVISORY: Part of TEPCO data on groundwater, trench contamination had error: agency 11:58 1 April

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/index.html

Oops they did it again vic.gif
04-01-2011 08:58 AM#473
OctoMother Superior
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
Radioactive substances in underground water
Tokyo Electric Power Company says it has detected radioactive substances in underground water at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

TEPCO, operator of the plant, has been checking below-ground water on the advice of the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan.

The company says radioactive water was detected beneath the ground near the turbine buildings of five of the 6 reactors. The remaining reactor, No. 4, could not be checked because it was blocked by debris.

TEPCO says radioactive substances dispersed into the atmosphere may have seeped into the soil through rain and sprayed water.

Highly radioactive water has been found in the basement of the turbine buildings and other locations. Damage to nuclear fuel rods in the reactors is believed to have caused the contamination.

The company will further analyze underground water and release the result later on Friday.

In response to the announcement, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told reporters on Friday morning that the government will tighten monitoring of seawater and nearby areas.
Friday, April 01, 2011 11:23 +0900 (JST)

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/01_17.html

they call it underground water 13.gif
04-01-2011 02:36 PM#474
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!



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04-01-2011 03:07 PM#475
OctoMother Superior
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
NEWS ADVISORY: TEPCO confirms radioactive iodine in groundwater 10,000 times legal limit

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/

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04-01-2011 03:08 PM#476
UpāsakaMember
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
The online all inclusive update from NaturalNews.com
http://www.naturalnews.com/031923_Fukush...tdown.html

A 100-year battle awaits Fukushima while suicide workers are needed to keep up the rescue efforts

Quote:(NaturalNews) The unfolding of the Fukushima catastrophe continues to worsen. Here are today's most important developments:

• A nuclear expert is now warning that it will take 50 to 100 years before the spent nuclear rods at Fukushima will cool enough to be removed from the site. In the mean time, Japan must keep pouring water on the fuel, and that creates highly radioactive water that's being flushed directly into the ocean. So now we're looking at the possibility of a century-long radiation leak (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/...).

• The groundwater underneath the Fukushima nuclear power facility is now showing 10,000 times the level of radiation normally allowed by government authorities. This is from iodine-131 measured at 15 meters below one of the reactors. (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011...)

• You've probably already heard that there have been efforts to use robots to help solve the Fukushima crisis, but those efforts have failed. Then again, who needs robots when you can just pay humans to do the same deadly work? Reuters is now reporting that a U.S. recruiting company is signing up U.S. workers to go to Fukushima and work on-site there as part of the crew that's trying to save the reactors (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-...). Why would anyone agree to do such a thing? Because they're being promised extra pay, if you can believe that.

You gotta wonder, of course, how these people think they're going to be able to spend all that extra money if they're half-dead from radiation poisoning. But hey, if they get paid one dollar for every millirem of radiation they absorb, they could soon be Fukushima's new millionaires!

• The world's largest concrete pumping truck is headed to Japan as part of a plan that can only be the beginning of the total surrender of Fukushima (http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest...). The only reason you need to pump that much concrete is if you're building a giant Chernobyl-like entombment of the Fukushima facility. But who's going to keep spraying the spent nuclear fuel rods with water in the mean time? (Nobody knows...)

• Due to the failure of Fukushima, Tokyo will be experiencing rolling blackouts all summer long. Tokyo's power has been reduced by roughly 20 percent due to the Fukushima catastrophe (http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/a...).

• Fukushima workers who have been desperately trying to bring the reactors back under control have said they expect to die due to their repeated exposure to extremely high levels of radiation. Oh, but the Fukushima deniers claim radiation is safe and that no one has even been harmed by it! (Seriously...) (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...)

• Remember, health authorities have been screaming for decades that sunlight exposure is potentially deadly because of the radiation exposure. But Fukushima fallout, we're now told, is perfectly safe for you! I guess only the sun is dangerous, not nuclear fuel rod meltdowns. How's that for public health policy?
04-01-2011 03:17 PM#477
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
Posts: 13,525Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
Thanks P, excellent post. So many people I know have their heads in the sand over this. gaah.gif
04-01-2011 03:48 PM#478
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
Quote: The world's largest concrete pumping truck is headed to Japan as part of a plan that can only be the beginning of the total surrender of Fukushima (http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest...). The only reason you need to pump that much concrete is if you're building a giant Chernobyl-like entombment of the Fukushima facility. But who's going to keep spraying the spent nuclear fuel rods with water in the mean time? (Nobody knows...)

Well, lets hope they are not going to use the truck to make millions of tombstones. damned.gif Great compilation P! hi5.gif The sooner they get those mini suns cooled down and covered in concrete the better off we'll all be.
Speaking of sand Shadow, as far as I know reactor 2 is still burning a hole through the concrete drywell, it cant be too much longer before it breaks through and begins to turn the sand on which it sits to glass, breaking though inch by inch till it reaches the water table then..
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04-01-2011 03:54 PM#479
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
Posts: 13,525Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
Yeah, entombing the reactors won't stop that happening. dunno.gif
04-01-2011 04:33 PM#480
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
Posts: 13,525Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
(04-01-2011 08:41 AM)Octo Wrote:  Oops they did it again vic.gif

And again...

Quote:The utility says it found errors in the program used to analyze radioactive elements and their levels, after some experts noted that radiation levels of leaked water inside the plant were too high."

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/ongoing...covery-eff

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