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04-07-2011 07:11 PM#541
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
rofl.gif rofl.gif beer o'clock now. beercheer.gif
04-07-2011 07:26 PM#542
UpāsakaMember
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!


04-10-2011 07:55 PM#543
CynicalabsurdanceMember
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RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
Dear LORD!!!

Good LORD!!!!

Oh My LORD!!!!

Over LORD!!!!

War LORD!!!!

is it TRUE!

The Japanese Government is telling a LIE?

Why hell, they've never done "THAT" before,,, have they?coffeetime.gif
04-10-2011 10:22 PM#544
OctoMother Superior
Posts: 42,674Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
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04-11-2011 12:06 PM#545
OctoMother Superior
Posts: 42,674Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
The government will expand evacuation districts near the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, its top spokesman said Monday.

With the crisis at the plant dragging on, some municipalities within a 20- to 30-kilometer radius of the power plant will now be designated as additional evacuation areas, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said at a news conference.

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/84604.html

NEWS ADVISORY: Water pumping into 3 Fukushima Daiichi reactors stops: TEPCO

NEWS ADVISORY: External power sources unavailable at Fukushima Daiichi reactors 1-2

doesn't seem to be getting much better now does it sad2.gif
04-11-2011 03:30 PM#546
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
Posts: 13,525Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
I'm reading there were two 7.1 quakes last night in Ibaraki 10 km and 13 km depths 13.gif no link though.
04-12-2011 08:43 AM#547
OctoMother Superior
Posts: 42,674Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
Japan raises nuke accident severity level to highest 7 from 5
TOKYO, April 12, Kyodo

Japan on Tuesday raised the severity level of the accident at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant to the maximum 7 on an international scale, up from the current 5 and matching that of the 1986 Chernobyl catastrophe.

The previous evaluation of 5 on the International Nuclear Event Scale provisionally set by the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, a body under the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry, was at the same level as the Three Mile Island accident in the United States in 1979.

While raising the level for the accident, the agency said, however, that the amount of radioactive materials released into the external environment from the nuke plant is estimated to be about 10 percent of the amount released in the Chernobyl catastrophe.

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/84805.html
04-12-2011 10:48 AM#548
OctoMother Superior
Posts: 42,674Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 17! Radioactivity 10,000 times the limit found in GROUNDWATER 15 yards down!
But the agency said the volume of radiation from Fukushima is one-tenth that at Chernobyl.

The agency said its calculations show that 370-thousand terabecquerels of radioactive iodine 131 and cesium 137 have been released from the plant.

The nuclear safety commission, in a joint press conference with the agency, put the estimated leak at 630-thousand terabecquerels of both substances.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/12_19.html
04-12-2011 01:44 PM#549
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
Posts: 13,525Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
Ah. So it's as bad as Chernobyl but only a 1/10 as bad. coffeetime.gif
04-12-2011 02:30 PM#550
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
Posts: 13,525Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
OMFG!! gaah.gifgaah.gifgaah.gif

Nuclear Power Fears at New Heights Despite Safety, Viability

“The Fukushima meltdown may mark a high point in anti-nuclear hysteria,” said John Downs of Euro Pacific Capital, in a note to clients Monday. “As a result, investors should not treat nuclear-related stocks as if they were radioactive. Eventually, reason prevails, and the truth is that nuclear power is hands down the best option available for powering the 21st century.”

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42539862

CNBC is, of course, owned by GE
04-12-2011 09:41 PM#551
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
Posts: 13,525Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
Advisory to US West Coast Citizens: Stay indoors as much as possible to reduce your exposure to radiation for April 12th and April 13th. Try to avoid the rain at all costs.

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04...ast-16606/

İmage

beer run
04-13-2011 12:17 AM#552
OctoMother Superior
Posts: 42,674Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
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04-13-2011 12:52 AM#553
Accidental StonerMember
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RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
(04-12-2011 01:44 PM)Shadow Wrote:  Ah. So it's as bad as Chernobyl but only a 1/10 as bad. coffeetime.gif

Ha ha.
World press becoming more icomprehensible everyday.
Jibberish on matters of life and death?
Same as it ever was, but getting worse vic.gif
04-13-2011 02:03 AM#554
OctoMother Superior
Posts: 42,674Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
incredibly ironic and such but I found this on ot.fi 15.gif

Quote:Enligt bolaget har strålningsutsläppet inte upphört, och man befarar nu att utsläppen till slut kommer att bli STÖRRE ÄN TJERNOBYL.

http://www.ot.fi/Story/?linkID=150610

Translated into non-Jibberish that would be something like:

"According to the company (TEPCO I assume) the radiation leak has not been stopped and they now fear it will be BIGGER THAN CHERNOBYL!


ğck
04-13-2011 03:09 AM#555
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
Posts: 13,525Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
Jobs at Fukushima plant: 10000 yen an hour
About $115/hr

http://translate.google.nl/translate?js=...d%2B95.htm

Says only 3 hrs/day paid but you're still at the work site for 8, and the working conditions aren't great LOL! Truck drivers here make that much (in a day). Hours are longer but you don't get a coffin in lieu of pension.
04-13-2011 01:16 PM#556
OctoMother Superior
Posts: 42,674Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
wow! Great career opportunity damned.giflol.gif
04-13-2011 01:58 PM#557
UpāsakaMember
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RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
Fukushima radiation taints US milk supplies at levels 300% higher than EPA maximums

http://www.naturalnews.com/032048_radiation_milk.html

Quote:(NaturalNews) The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) continues to release new data showing that various milk and water supply samples from across the US are testing increasingly high for radioactive elements such as Iodine-131, Cesium-134, and Cesium-137, all of which are being emitted from the ongoing Fukushima Daiichia nuclear fallout. As of April 10, 2011, 23 US water supplies have tested positive for radioactive Iodine-131 (http://opendata.socrata.com/w/4ig7-...), and worst of all, milk samples from at least three US locations have tested positive for Iodine-131 at levels exceeding EPA maximum containment levels (MCL) (http://opendata.socrata.com/w/pkfj-...).

As far as the water supplies are concerned, it is important to note that the EPA is only testing for radioactive Iodine-131. There are no readings or data available for cesium, uranium, or plutonium -- all of which are being continuously emitted from Fukushima, as far as we know -- even though these elements are all much more deadly than Iodine-131. Even so, the following water supplies have thus far tested positive for Iodine-131, with the dates they were collected in parenthesis to the right:

Los Angeles, Calif. - 0.39 pCi/l (4/4/11)
Philadelphia (Baxter), Penn. - 0.46 pCi/l (4/4/11)
Philadelphia (Belmont), Penn. - 1.3 pCi/l (4/4/11)
Philadelphia (Queen), Penn. - 2.2 pCi/l (4/4/11)
Muscle Shoals, Al. - 0.16 pCi/l (3/31/11)
Niagara Falls, NY - 0.14 pCi/l (3/31/11)
Denver, Colo. - 0.17 pCi/l (3/31/11)
Detroit, Mich. - 0.28 pCi/l (3/31/11)
East Liverpool, Oh. - 0.42 pCi/l (3/30/11)
Trenton, NJ - 0.38 pCi/l (3/29/11)
Painesville, Oh. - 0.43 pCi/l (3/29/11)
Columbia, Penn. - 0.20 pCi/l (3/29/11)
Oak Ridge (4442), Tenn. - 0.28 pCi/l (3/29/11)
Oak Ridge (772), Tenn. - 0.20 pCi/l (3/29/11)
Oak Ridge (360), Tenn. - 0.18 pCi/l (3/29/11)
Helena, Mont. - 0.18 pCi/l (3/28/11)
Waretown, NJ - 0.38 pCi/l (3/28/11)
Cincinnati, Oh. - 0.13 pCi/l (3/28/11)
Pittsburgh, Penn. - 0.36 pCi/l (3/28/11)
Oak Ridge (371), Tenn. - 0.63 pCi/l (3/28/11)
Chattanooga, Tenn. - 1.6 pCi/l (3/28/11)
Boise, Id. - 0.2 pCi/l (3/28/11)
Richland, Wash. - 0.23 pCi/l (3/28/11)

Again, these figures do not include the other radioactive elements being spread by Fukushima, so there is no telling what the actual cumulative radiation levels really were in these samples. The figures were also taken two weeks ago, and were only just recently reported. If current samples were taken at even more cities, and if the tests conducted included the many other radioactive elements besides Iodine-131, actual contamination levels would likely be frighteningly higher.

But in typical government fashion, the EPA still insists that everything is just fine, even though an increasing amount of US water supplies are turning up positive for even just the radioactive elements for which the agency is testing -- and these levels seem to be increasing as a direct result of the situation at the Fukushima plant, which continues to worsen with no end in sight (http://www.naturalnews.com/032035_F...).

Water may be the least of our problems, however. New EPA data just released on Sunday shows that at least three different milk samples -- all from different parts of the US -- have tested positive for radioactive Iodine-131 at levels that exceed the EPA maximum thresholds for safety, which is currently set at 3.0 pico Curies per Liter (pCi/l).

In Phoenix, Ariz., a milk sample taken on March 28, 2011, tested at 3.2 pCi/l. In Little Rock, Ark., a milk sample taken on March 30, 2011, tested at 8.9 pCi/l, which is almost three times the EPA limit. And in Hilo, Hawaii, a milk sample collected on April 4, 2011, tested at 18 pCi/l, a level six times the EPA maximum safety threshold. The same Hawaii sample also tested at 19 pCi/l for Cesium-137, which has a half life of 30 years (http://www.naturalnews.com/031992_r...), and a shocking 24 pCi/l for Cesium-134, which has a half life of just over two years (http://opendata.socrata.com/w/pkfj-...).

Why is this milk contamination significant? Milk, of course, typically represents the overall condition of the food chain because cows consume grass and are exposed to the same elements as food crops and water supplies. In other words, when cows' milk starts testing positive for high levels of radioactive elements, this is indicative of radioactive contamination of the entire food supply.

And even with the milk samples, the EPA insanely says not to worry as its 3.0 pCi/l threshold is allegedly only for long-term exposure. But the sad fact of the matter is that the Fukushima situation is already a long-term situation. Not only does it appear that the Fukushima reactor cores are continuing to melt, since conditions at the plant have not gotten any better since the earthquake and tsunami, but many of the radioactive elements that have already been released in previous weeks have long half lives, and have spread halfway around the world.

The other problem with the EPA's empty reassurances that radiation levels are too low to have a negative impact on humans is the fact that the agency does not even have an accurate grasp on the actual aggregate exposure to radiation from all sources (water, food, air, rain, etc.). When you combine perpetual exposure from multiple sources with just the figures that have already been released, there is a very real threat of serious harm as a result of exposure.

The EPA and other government agencies are constantly comparing Fukushima radiation to background and airplane radiation in an attempt to minimize the severity of exposure, even though these are two completely different kinds of radiation exposure.

No safe level of radiation from nuclear fallout
Background and airplane radiation is an external emitter of radiation, while Fukushima-induced radiation in food and water is an internal emitter. The former, which is considered "normal" radiation, hits your body from the outside, while the latter goes directly inside your body and into your digestive tract. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the immense difference between the two, and the much more severe consequences associated with literally ingesting radiation verses having it hit your skin.

In reality, there really is no safe level of radiation. No matter how many times the EPA and others repeat the lie that radiation levels are too low to have any significant impact, the statement itself is patently false. Many experts, including Jeff Patterson, DO, former President of Physicians for Social Responsibility, have stated that radiation exposure at any level is unsafe, and they are correct.

"There is no safe level of radionuclide exposure, whether from food, water or other sources. Period," said Patterson. "Exposure to radionuclides, such as Iodine-131 and Cesium-137, increases the incidence of cancer. For this reason, every effort must be taken to minimize the radionuclide content in food and water."

And now that radioactive levels in some areas have actually exceeded EPA maximums, Patterson's statement is even more chilling. So while the mainstream media continues its near-total blackout on Fukushima, the situation is actually becoming more severe than it has ever been. Time will tell how severe the long-term effects of this disaster will be, but one thing is for sure -- Fukushima radiation cannot and should not be taken lightly..

Sources for this story include:

http://blogs.forbes.com/jeffmcmahon...

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/032048_radiat...z1JOoSgVbc

Europeans warned to avoid drinking milk or eating vegetables due to high radiation levels

Quote:(NaturalNews) The radiation risk from Fukushima is "no longer negligable," says CRIIRAD, the French research authority on radioactivity. It is now warning expectant mothers and young children to avoid drinking milk or rainwater. They should also avoid certain types of vegetables and cheese due to the dangerously high levels of radiation they may contain thanks to the radioactive fallout spreading across the globe (http://www.euractiv.com/en/health/r...).

CRIIRAD now says that eating these items qualifies as "risky behavior." And yet, in practically the same sentence, the organization claims there is "absolutely no need" for anyone to take iodine tablets.

That's right: There's so much radiation in the food that you probably shouldn't eat it. But all that radiation is so harmless that you don't need to protect yourself from it with iodine. It's amazing how these people think they can have it both ways.

The institute goes on to say that drinking rainwater might be dangerous, but standing in the rain is perfectly safe. There's actually some sense to this, as ingesting radioactive water is indeed far more dangerous than merely being drenched in it. But U.S. nuclear authorities make no such distinction, by the way.

Here comes the mass irradiation of the food supply
Despite these warnings, the real issue that few are willing to acknowledge so far is that Fukushima fallout will continue for many more months. And during this fallout, there will be a cumulative load of radiation raining down upon the grasses, fruits and vegetables that make up the global food supply. How high those levels get is anyone's guess, and those animals that feed upon those grasses -- such as cattle, goats and sheep -- will tend to further concentrate the radioactivity, producing milk and meat products that are far more radioactive than the grasses upon which they fed.

This is a very sad circumstance, of course, because it means that the corn-fed, factory-farmed cattle will probably be LESS radioactive than the open-range grass-fed cattle whose beef products are usually far better for you. Although I'm not personally someone who consumes beef, I'm a big supporter of those who choose grass-fed beef over the corn-fed factory farmed beef.

Bring your Geiger counter to the fresh produce section
What I'm beginning to wonder in all this, however, is how high the radioactivity of the entire food supply is going to become. Are we looking toward a day when we have to being Geiger counters to the grocery store?

Will we soon have two bins of apples at the store called "Pre-Fukushima" and "Post-Fukushima?"

And for all those people who have already stored food, good for you! All the food you stored before Fukushima is obviously not radioactive, and there may come a day when non-radioactive food commands a huge price premium.

For those still looking to acquire and store non-radioactive healthy foods, check out http://www.StorableOrganics.com where you can find organic foods and superfoods sealed in steel cans for long-term emergency preparedness. The entire inventory there is "Pre-Fukushima," by the way.

For those who haven't stored any food, you might start thinking about what you're going to eat if Fukushima suffers yet another explosion and a massive cloud of radioactive isotopes gets dropped onto the food production lands of the world. This situation will only get worse before it gets better.

And sadly, even growing your own food is no solution to all this, because your own gardens are just as susceptible to radiation fallout as commercial crop lands. Only those who grow food in greenhouses will be largely protected from the fallout. Maybe it's a good time to buy some sprouting seeds, too, because you can sprout seeds in your own kitchen and grow them free of radiation. In just 3 days, you can turn a pile of seeds into a nutritious sprout salad. Add some avocado and balsamic vinegar and you have a delicious lunch!


Its raining locally today damned.gif
04-13-2011 02:11 PM#558
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
Posts: 30,998Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
cheers.gif Good morning P! We have rain as well gaah.gif
Quote:The radiation risk from Fukushima is "no longer negligable,"
Me thinks there is no such thing as negligible radiation.

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04-13-2011 02:22 PM#559
UpāsakaMember
Posts: 1,448Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
hey JR cheers.gif

Not sure if this has been posted.
Quote:Nightmare tour inside the Fukushima evacuation zone - home video
Those guys are nutz

http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=2343E0664D...E3CB2C87D3
04-13-2011 02:32 PM#560
RossIncognitoAnonymous
 
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
those poor dogs have lost their owners, it's so damn sad P.
04-13-2011 02:35 PM#561
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
Posts: 30,998Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
It was great, in the way the apocalypse is um.. great. Yes I saw it the other day, and yes I was bothered by the dogs, and of course Octo says: "I wonder what they are eating". gaah.gif

I didn't really want to go there!

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04-13-2011 03:29 PM#562
OctoMother Superior
Posts: 42,674Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
I think they're deliberately using a hundred different units and ways to measure radiation gaah.gif So good luck in trying to convert these numbers
İmage


http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/occup-tr...on-eng.php
04-13-2011 11:24 PM#563
UpāsakaMember
Posts: 1,448Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!




The Man who sticks it to the man, with a funky hat.
04-13-2011 11:59 PM#564
OctoMother Superior
Posts: 42,674Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
We watched this series tonight, 'On the Beach' from 2000. Nuclear radiation kills everybody on the planet damned.gif



04-14-2011 02:46 PM#565
UpāsakaMember
Posts: 1,448Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
Updates from Nuclear Engineer Arnie Gundersen

Excellent source of info on fukushima, cuts through the BS.

http://www.fairewinds.com/updates
04-14-2011 02:55 PM#566
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
Posts: 30,998Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
TEPCO Admits #4 Fuel Pool 'May Be Boiling







Enormous Amount Of Plutonium In #4 Fuel Pool May Ignite




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04-14-2011 03:50 PM#567
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
Posts: 13,525Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
Climate change affects tectonic plate movement, causing earthquakes: study

SYDNEY (AFP) – Scientists have for the first time shown a link between intensifying climate events and tectonic plate movement in findings that could provide a valuable insight into why huge tremors occur.

Understanding why plates change direction and speed is key to unlocking huge seismic events such as last month's Japan earthquake, which shifted the Earth's axis by several inches, or February's New Zealand quake.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/13/cl...fts-study/

Was only a matter of time before they blame the quake on global warming chuckle.gif
04-14-2011 04:28 PM#568
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
Posts: 13,525Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
(04-14-2011 02:55 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  TEPCO Admits #4 Fuel Pool 'May Be Boiling

damned.gif

All little more on that

TEPCO Confirms Reactor 4 Spent Fuel Pool Is Now An Uncontrolled, Open Air Fission Process

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/tepco-c...on-process
04-14-2011 06:30 PM#569
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
Posts: 13,525Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
This is a sorta interesting read coffeetime.gif

Secret Weapons Program Inside Fukushima Nuclear Plant?
U.S.-Japan security treaty fatally delayed nuclear workers' fight against meltdown

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?c...&aid=24275

Explains much.
04-14-2011 07:11 PM#570
OctoMother Superior
Posts: 42,674Joined: Feb 2011
RE: UPDATE 18! Nuclear accident level raised to a maximum 7!
hmm.gif Interesting. Rumor has it the Russian military was conducting 'experiments' at their own section of Chernobyl the night it blew up damned.gif
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