#Login Register


  • 242 Vote(s) - 3.76 Average
Home 


The Fukushima Disaster
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
07-27-2012, 02:35 AM #1,021
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
Quote:Every year I can and smoke about 20 salmon, usually Chinooks, but I have no idea how to tell, for myself, if they have cesium contamination

how do you get bthe little guys to pucker up are they menthol or non



i
07-30-2012, 02:26 PM #1,022
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:13,525 Threads:1,259 Joined:Feb 2011
Ewwww. lolz

Post-Fukushima, Japan's irradiated fish worry B.C. experts

The numbers show that far from dissipating with time, as government officials and scientists in Canada and elsewhere claimed they would, levels of radiation from Fukushima have stayed stubbornly high in fish. In June 2012, the average contaminated fish catch had 65 becquerels of cesium per kilo. That’s much higher than the average of five Bq/kg found in the days after the accident back in March 2011, before cesium from Fukushima had spread widely through the region’s food chain.

In some species, radiation levels are actually higher this year than last.

http://www.straight.com/article-735051/v...bc-experts

07-30-2012, 03:55 PM #1,023
Jed Member
Posts:244 Threads:45 Joined:Mar 2012
That there is just bad news
Shadow. This thing is far worse
than they's a lettin' on.
07-30-2012, 04:10 PM #1,024
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:13,525 Threads:1,259 Joined:Feb 2011
Yeah. The implications are bind moggling. If the Pacific is contaminated, and I don't see how it couldn't be with tepco pumping all the radioactive waste into the ocean, there's going to be a billion or two starving people in Asia.
07-30-2012, 04:53 PM #1,025
Accidental Stoner Member
Posts:8,248 Threads:64 Joined:Feb 2011
shït.
No more tuna.
07-31-2012, 05:07 PM #1,026
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
I say, again, how can they make these determinations when we really don't know what's going on at Fukushima?

From article:

'Below the level of concern'

While the total peak radioactivity levels after four to seven years would still be about twice the pre-Fukushima values, it says this is “below the level of concern”.

The German study used a sequence of global ocean circulation models to estimate the long-term dispersion by ocean currents of a slow decaying tracer, comparable to that of caesium-137. The tracer was continuously injected into coastal waters over several weeks and its spreading and dilution in the Pacific Ocean was then simulated for 10 years.

http://www.euractiv.com/climate-environm...ews-513943
07-31-2012, 05:26 PM #1,027
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:13,525 Threads:1,259 Joined:Feb 2011
They merely raise the 'level of concern'. Generally accepted safe level is 2 bq/hr of cesium. Japan has raised that to 100. I know in BC the 'threat' is so inconsequential the provincial gov finds no reason to even monitor lmao.gif
07-31-2012, 05:40 PM #1,028
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
(07-31-2012, 05:26 PM)Shadow Wrote:  They merely raise the 'level of concern'. Generally accepted safe level is 2 bq/hr of cesium. Japan has raised that to 100. I know in BC the 'threat' is so inconsequential the provincial gov finds no reason to even monitor lmao.gif


So true, Shadow. This makes me very worried.
07-31-2012, 05:49 PM #1,029
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:13,525 Threads:1,259 Joined:Feb 2011
I've been taking (Norwegian) sea kelp since it began but I can't get my family (mostly on the West coast) to take it sad2.gif My sister's doctor told her not to, it'll wreck her thyroid.
07-31-2012, 05:52 PM #1,030
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
(07-31-2012, 05:49 PM)Shadow Wrote:  I've been taking (Norwegian) sea kelp since it began but I can't get my family (mostly on the West coast) to take it sad2.gif My sister's doctor told her not to, it'll wreck her thyroid.


I don't understand that advice from the doctor. Eating sea kelp will give one the required natural iodine elements which protects the thyroid gland from radiation. Doesn't it?
07-31-2012, 06:07 PM #1,031
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:13,525 Threads:1,259 Joined:Feb 2011
That's exactly what it does US. I don't understand the advice either dunno.gif she won't take it, none of them will. The doctor said and they think I'm an idiot for taking it rofl.gif

Poland handed out Ki immediately following Chernobyl and saw none of the thyroid cancers surrounding countries have suffered since.
07-31-2012, 11:03 PM #1,032
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
(07-31-2012, 06:07 PM)Shadow Wrote:  That's exactly what it does US. I don't understand the advice either dunno.gif she won't take it, none of them will. The doctor said and they think I'm an idiot for taking it rofl.gif

Poland handed out Ki immediately following Chernobyl and saw none of the thyroid cancers surrounding countries have suffered since.


As usual doctors don't elaborate and properly explain their findings to us lay people. The article below states that too much sea veggies will overstimulate your thyroid. So, as per usual, everything in moderation. Having said that, how much seaweed is necessary to stave off the effects of radiation and cancer?

"There are known health benefits to eating sea vegetables in moderation. Too much will overstimulate your thyroid gland. For example, a tablespoon of sea vegetables, formerly called sea weed, may contain between 1/2 mg and 35 mg of iron along with vitamin C. In nutrition, vitamin C increases the bioavailability of plant iron."

http://www.examiner.com/article/what-you...vegetables

08-01-2012, 04:52 PM #1,033
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:13,525 Threads:1,259 Joined:Feb 2011
The sea kelp I take is 650 mcg or 0.00065 grams of iodine. chuckle.gif
08-01-2012, 05:01 PM #1,034
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
(08-01-2012, 04:52 PM)Shadow Wrote:  The sea kelp I take is 650 mcg or 0.00065 grams of iodine. chuckle.gif


chuckle.gif Did you doctor even ask you how much you were consuming? 13.gif
08-01-2012, 05:24 PM #1,035
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:13,525 Threads:1,259 Joined:Feb 2011
I'm told my doctor retired three years ago. rofl.gif
08-01-2012, 07:55 PM #1,036
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
(08-01-2012, 05:24 PM)Shadow Wrote:  I'm told my doctor retired three years ago. rofl.gif


Oh yeah, your sister's doctor told her...ah ha...chuckle.gif I wonder what your retired doctor would think of that? wtf2.gif
08-01-2012, 08:35 PM #1,037
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
"These geneticists have observed the opposite of an adaptation to radioactivity: an increase in genomic instability in all populations studied, from 30 to 300 kilometres away from the stricken reactor (Chernobyl). In the least contaminated zones, near Minsk, the genomic instability is slow, but it will persist and worsen up to 22 generations later.

The genetic effects observed in both humans and rodents has led Professor Hillis, at the University of Texas, to conclude in his editorial in the review Nature, 25th April 1996: « We know today that the mutagenic effect of a nuclear accident can be far more serious than we ever suspected, and the eucaryotic genome can present levels of mutation that, up to now, would not have been considered possible. "

damned.gif

It was almost incomprehensible that at Fukushima there was no distribution of stable iodine to the population that would soon be under threat. Such a preventive measure would have been welcomed, as Keith Baverstock showed in Poland after Chernobyl.

damned.gif


http://enenews.com/genetic-mutations-fro...consultant

08-02-2012, 05:10 PM #1,038
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
Here we go again. gaah.gif New candidate to head Japan's nuclear regulatory body.

"Some lawmakers and activists have said Tanaka's past affiliation puts him too close to the industry. They also have criticized the nomination process as murky.

Tanaka, 67, is a native of Fukushima. He has helped efforts to decontaminate radiation which leaked from the Fukushima plant. But he is unpopular among some local residents who say he has downplayed the potential risk of low-dose radiation exposure."



http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/busines...89526.html
08-05-2012, 03:39 PM #1,039
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
Public hearings in Japan going on in many cities...although their gov't has not explained how it will incorporate the results ...

"The majority wished to speak in support of scrapping all atomic energy generation, while 11 percent wanted to talk about the 15 percent option and 16 percent of them about the 20 to 25 percent option, the agency said. Five percent wanted to challenge all three options."

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20120805a6.html
08-05-2012, 03:47 PM #1,040
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,684 Threads:1,470 Joined:Feb 2011
I think everyone with an ounce of common sense would like to see nuclear power scrapped. sad2.gif
08-05-2012, 03:51 PM #1,041
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
Hi Octo. I agree with you, especially those countries sitting on fault lines and in sights of violent storms.
08-05-2012, 03:54 PM #1,042
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
I mean, really. They have re-activated two plants that can only withstand earthquakes up to 7.0, I believe, when the earthquakes they are experiencing are now reaching almost 9.0. wtf2.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ear...s_in_Japan
08-07-2012, 12:14 PM #1,043
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,684 Threads:1,470 Joined:Feb 2011



sad2.gif
08-11-2012, 05:56 PM #1,044
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
I found this site, which looks to be a good source for truthful updates.

http://fukushima-diary.com/category/dnews/

Just reading the chat responses: Quoting 'Grace': People are still in denial. That time is about to end.
08-11-2012, 06:01 PM #1,045
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
08-14-2012, 11:23 AM #1,046
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,684 Threads:1,470 Joined:Feb 2011
'Severe abnormalities' found in Fukushima butterflies

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19245818

sad2.gif
08-21-2012, 05:57 PM #1,047
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
damned.gif

Quote:

Earlier this month Caldicott was interviewed by David Bernstein of Consortium News. Read these excerpts from that interview. But, fair warning, they may cause you to lose some sleep.

“The situation in Fukushima is dire. They are now looking at children under the age of 18 in the Fukushima prefecture, and they've examined 38,000 so far. And 36 percent of them, over one-third, have thyroid nodules, cysts and nodules, almost certainly related to their exposure to both external radiation, gamma radiation, but also to inhaling and ingesting in their food, radioactive iodine.

“You would expect solid tumors not to occur, for another, hmmm, 10 to 15 years---and this data is coming within the first year after the accident. So it clearly indicates these children got a whopping dose of radioactive Iodine-131.

“The theta pollen in Fukushima was so full of cesium it was almost unbelievable. And that was blown all over the place. Someone tested some dust in a tenth floor apartment in Tokyo recently and there was a lot of cesium 137, 134 in it, uranium 238, 235, and the like, from the Fukushima accident, tenth floor of a Tokyo apartment.

“And the food is radioactive, much of it. The rice, much of the rice grown in Japan is grown in the Fukushima prefectures. It's being harvested with cesium in it so they're mixing it with non-radioactive rice. Doesn't matter, you know, it reconcentrates back in the body.

“Sixty-three percent of the fish caught 100 kilometers from Fukushima have cesium in them. Tuna being caught off the coast of California is carrying cesium from Fukushima. Spinach, the mushrooms are full of cesium and other isotopes, but they're only just measuring cesium.

...so much more...

http://uspolitics.einnews.com/column/110...ry-stories
08-21-2012, 09:17 PM #1,048
Accidental Stoner Member
Posts:8,248 Threads:64 Joined:Feb 2011
damned.gif

hiding.gif
08-31-2012, 04:28 PM #1,049
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,624 Threads:399 Joined:Jun 2012
From article:

The team was cautiously positive towards agriculture, saying "for the next cropping season there is room for reducing some of the conservatism." One factor here could be that ploughing at some farms has already moved the contaminated upper part of the topsoil to levels not reached by crop roots. Agriculture is another area that IAEA stands ready to support Japan in considering a new strategy, based on results from experimental areas.

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/RS_IAE...11111.html


---

Cautiously positive? damned.gif
09-06-2012, 04:53 PM #1,050
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:13,525 Threads:1,259 Joined:Feb 2011



Home 




DISCLAIMER / Terms of Service (TOS)
Kritterbox.com - Socialize anonymously, commentary, discussion, oddities, technology, music and more!  This website is provided "as is" without warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied. kritterbox.com shall not be liable for any damages whatsoever, including, without limitation, those resulting from loss of use, data or profits, whether or not advised of the possibility of damage, and on any theory of liability, arising out of or in connection with the use or performance of this site or other documents which are referenced by or linked to this site.
This website exists solely for the purposes of exchange of information, communication and general entertainment. Opinions from posters are in no way endorsed by kritterbox.com. All posts on this website are the opinion of the authors and are not to be taken as statements of fact on behalf of kritterbox.com. This site may contain coarse language or other material that kritterbox.com is in no way responsible for. Material deemed to be offensive or pornographic at the discretion of kritterbox.com shall be removed. kritterbox.com reserves the right to modify, or remove posts and user accounts on this website at our discretion. kritterbox.com disclaims all liability for damages incurred directly or indirectly as a result of any material on this website. Fictitious posts and any similarity to any person living or dead is coincidental.
All users shall limit the insertion of any and all copyrighted material to portions of the article that are relevant to the point being made, with no more than 50%, and preferably less of the original source material. A link shall be visible in text format, embedded directly to the original source material without exception.
No third party links, i.e. blogs or forums will be accepted under any circumstances, and will be edited by staff in order to reflect the original source of copyrighted material, or be removed at the sole discretion of kritterbox.com.
Fair Use Notice:
This site may contain copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. Users may make such material available in an effort to advance awareness and understanding of issues relating to economics, individual rights, international affairs, liberty, science, and technology. This constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C.Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for educational and/or research purposes.
This Disclaimer is subject to change at any time at our discretion.
Copyright © 2011 - 2017 kritterbox.com