Any time any of you finds an island and need people I'll be ready to go, I'm just about had it with this insanity
US LOCKED AND LOADED FOR AIR-SEA STRIKES AGAINST QAFFAFI'S FORCES!03-19-2011, 03:20 PM #33God gave us beer and such because he wanted us to be happy from time to time in spite of the overwhelming self serving stupidity and failure of our ruling class.
03-19-2011, 04:45 PM #34
I can smell the oil,gas, and money, that this bombing campaign is all about. Also the French & UK leaders want to look like 'war leaders' doing good. So that they an get a bump in the polls. Sakozy has an election pretty soon. Both leaders are trying to out do each other. Pathetic.
Quote:Libya, a member of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), holds the largest proven oil reserves in Africa. According to the 2008 BP Statistical Energy Survey, Libya had proved oil reserves of 41.464 billion barrels at the end of 2007 or 3.34 % of the world's reserves.
Oil exploration in Libya began in 1955, with the key national Petroleum Law No. 25 enacted in April of that year (a new petroleum law is currently under development). Libya's first oil fields were discovered in 1959 (at Amal and Zelten -- now known as Nasser), and oil exports began in 1961.
Libya is Africaâ€™s major oil producer and one of Europeâ€™s biggest North African oil suppliers. Supplies from North Africa to Europe destinations have the advantage of being both timely and cost effective. According to the 2008 BP Statistical Energy Survey, Libya produced an average of 1847.7 thousand barrels of crude oil per day in 2007, 2.2% of the world total and a change of 0.5 % compared to 2006. Libyaâ€™s economy is based on oil and exports contribute between 75% and 90% of State revenues.
Meanwhile Bahraini people are invaded by other GCC countries lead by the Saudi's. Yet nothing is done. No words of warning. They just run riot. Before anyone says they were invited, not by the majority. But by the Minority Sunni lead Monarchy.
Not saying the shia are any better. But violence begets violence. The Majority population want a voice that is linked to their size. fair enough to me. Oh and The US has a massive navy base in Bahrain, maybe thats why they don't say anything.03-19-2011, 04:52 PM #35
Quote:I can smell the oil,gas, and money, that this bombing campaign is all about. Also the French & UK leaders want to look like 'war leaders' doing good. So that they an get a bump in the polls. Sakozy has an election pretty soon. Both leaders are trying to out do each other. Pathetic.
They all whip it out at election time so we plebes can marvel at the power. elite pansie games.
03-19-2011, 05:04 PM #37
Quote:LIBYAN rebels acknowledged that a warplane which crashed in flames in their Benghazi stronghold early yesterday belonged to them and that it was shot down by Muammar Gaddafi's forces.
"Yes, it was one of the insurgents' planes. It was downed by Gaddafi's forces," a senior rebel official told AFP, reached by telephone.
"From what I hear the pilot is dead but I cannot confirm that," he said, adding that the plane was a French-built Mirage fighter.
"We have a few planes but they are old planes," he added.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/lib...6024751456
Now who the hell are these 'rebels' and where do they get jet fighters? Senior rebel official :chcukle:03-19-2011, 05:23 PM #38Pearl roundabout monument which was the gathering point for demonstrations has been destroyed by Bahrani authorities.
If anything a psychological blow for the protesters.
Some interesting factoids about Bahrain
Quote:The current ASU bears little resemblance to the small, 10-acre compound it was as recently as 1991. In the past seven years, this "sleepy hollow" has expanded to 62 acres with $36.5 million worth of new construction underway, including new transient bachelor quarters, a medical and dental clinic, a racquetball court, a chapel, a post office and several multi-purpose sports fields.
Juffair is the boomtown of the Bahraini capital. Across the flat, dusty plain outside Naval Support Activity Bahrain, a jungle of glass and concrete has sprouted. Newly paved roads crisscross in an expanding checkerboard between the base and the bay. Armies of construction workers swarm over half-finished apartments, restaurants and hotels as the white sun bakes the desert. Some of them sleep in the open shells at night.
Prospective owners of hotels and apartments cultivate Navy leaders, hoping for a piece of the military pie. For security reasons, the US government places strict limits on the number of Americans who may stay in each hotel or apartment. For hotels, the limit is 25 percent of guests, and for apartments the limit is 50 percent of tenants. That means building owners must get non-Navy clients to fill up the rest of their space. As fortune would have it, the Navyâ€™s expansion coincided with Manamaâ€™s rise as the hub of Middle East commerce.
Today, 178 banks have branches here, al-Absi said â€” a vast number for a country of just 645,000 people. Dozens of firms, like Coca Cola and Chevron, have located regional offices here to take advantage of the friendly, tolerant business climate. It also is a rare country in the Middle East that permits companies to be 100 percent foreign-owned. It aspires to fill the Arab niche once occupied by Lebanon before the bloody civil war of the 1970s and 1980s. Like the Navy, these companies pay the living costs of employees who move to Bahrain. As a result, expatriates from Great Britain, India, Pakistan, Australia and Saudi Arabia have filled up the apartments and hotels of Juffair. Foreigners now make up about one-third of Bahrainâ€™s population, and they dominate in Manama.
The local population lives a little bit out of town â€” what in American terms would be called the suburbs. A great percentage of the people of Manama are not Bahrainis. They donâ€™t want to drive 25 minutes to go out and get a drink.03-19-2011, 05:42 PM #39"a senior rebel official"
Says it all.
MSM conditions the public in the West.
While not in so many words, the implications are the West are already recognizing a new government.
The reality here is, there is already a recognized internal hierarchy, and the US, UK, et al. are not demonizing it, so it can be implied they are already to some degree recognizing it's legitimacy, if not directly behind all of this toppling of governments.
Don't tell me this hasn't been on the table for a number of years. It just took a good distraction to make all this happen without much public scrutiny. Japan provides the perfect storm.
Never let a good crisis go to waste.
03-19-2011, 08:07 PM #40G'Morning JR
and every once in a while, i have to deal with the Knowledge of paying taxes for years
to fund black-ops and Psy-Ops wherein "I" was the target.
Not just myself, not just my Sister being Murdered by agents of the U.S. and My Dad and his Friend being Murdered.
all the LabRats of MK Ultra as experimental subjects in a Nazi enhanced Mind Control/brainwashing Program run on small children right into adulthood.
But, each and every Human on the Planet being manipulated into Docile Marshmallows.
Yep, i do indeed at times go through a very nice round of suppressing pent up anger,
and Today, where i sit, all the people walking around with thoughts of comfort on their minds.
" and the kids they dance and shake their bones ( oblivious ) and the politicians throwing stones
and it's all too clear we're on our own,,,
on our own,,,"""""
Be nice to hack into the Brookings Institute computers, and find the blue print on the study of this shït and put in on the Net.
Then, sit back and watch as people order their,,, "TALL NON-FAT VANILLA LATTE WITH A TWIST AND A PINEAPPLE SLICE WITH SOY MILK WHIPPED CREAM AND AN ORGANIC BANANA ON TOP"
RAGE!!! is what they should have on order.
But hey, a person cannot enjoy a Latte as well when enraged,,,, now can they?03-19-2011, 09:40 PM #41Hey Rog! Yes it even hits closer to home with you in terms of paying the wages via tax dollars of those who sought to bring harm your way, on a personal level!
With me, at least on all but one unexplainable occasion they never made anything personal, but the waste, the fraud, the greed, the whole creation of money through debt the black projects, the wars.
It's a disturbing beast we've all financed.
03-20-2011, 12:47 AM #42Jr
there was a Photo i received from Iraq
i know a few special forces personnel
The photo displayed an Oil Tanker Trailer with the back of the tank cut out with a torch,
stacked inside the tanker, were the gold bars from the Iraqi Treasury.
Off loading the Gold Bars by hand, were special forces troops of the U.S.
The Soldiers were stacking the bars on pallets to be loaded onto U.S. Aircraft for transport out
The missive went something like this:
Rog', were your Bars anything like these in shape and size?
This operation, is mine."
Then a short missive on the who what when where and how of the operation.
I later, from this person, received a gift of a handgun taken away from one of Sadamn's
head men, it was a gift to that friend of Sadamn's, from Sadamn, back in 1972.
Ahhhhh,,, the spoils of war.
through a Proxy Whore
i had that photo loaded into a thread at: ancientlosttreasures.com
The thread was one of the threads that went: POOF in the dos attack of that forum a few weeks later.
03-20-2011, 01:23 AM #43do you have that pic stored anywhere else on your techno junk?03-20-2011, 02:30 AM #44Quote: do you have the photo stored?"
you just had to ask.
Cynical is Hippie
does not exist anywhere
showed torture tooth,,, other day to person
lock on Van had been pried
Hippie hate person he show tooth to
person a snitch ass puke.
person see tooth
person ask if i keep it safe
i note shït in person's eye's
i put tooth where no person crazy enough to go look
i crazy, like a Fox
but i no Bunnyhead.
heh heh03-20-2011, 12:53 PM #45Libya for the Libyans!
Let them sort out their own problems!
The "Western community" wants to get involved?
Then evacuate the children out of harm's way!
ƒück the slavedrivers
ƒück the imperialists
ƒück the ƒükking humbug pseudo-humanists
ƒück the military industrial swindle-complex
ƒück Khaddafi - he will get what's coming to him.
Libya for the Libyans!
Jeeesus ƒükkin' christ...03-20-2011, 02:04 PM #46US begins assault against Libyan air defenses
WASHINGTON â€“ The U.S. military attacked Moammar Gadhafi's air defenses Saturday with strikes along the Libyan coast that were launched by Navy vessels in the Mediterranean.
A senior military official said the assault would unfold in stages and target air defense installations around Tripoli, the capital, and a coastal area south of Benghazi. That's the rebel stronghold under attack by Moammar Gadhafi's forces.
Saddamized03-20-2011, 04:40 PM #47
We all knew this was coming, these staged revolutions are a method by which they can install puppet regimes friendly to western interests and the IMF. This aint rocket science.
03-20-2011, 11:24 PM #48~~~~~~~~~~~~`PEOPLE IN REBELLION~~~~~~~~~
Here are a few points i pondered
1. 1776, rebels with GUNS attempt overthrow of King George's rule of the Colonies
King George sends out troops to combat the rebels
Other countries leave it alone
2. Rebels in Iraq attempt to drive out U.S. Troops
U.S. press refers to the Rebels as Insurgents
3. Rebels in the U.S. rebel against a Nazi Regime disguised as a Democratic Society
These Rebels are referred to as a " THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY"
4. Excuse for NATO airwar on Kaddafi?
He uses troops to put down an ARMED rebellion, which is a threat to Libya's National security.
Claims that he is killing his own people
airstrikes by Nato,,,, have KILLED His People
more of his people then were killed in an attempt to squash the C.I.A. instigated riots.
REBELS OR RIOTERS?
WHICH IS IT?
INSURGENTS, OR LIBERATORS SUCH AS THE FREE FRENCH OF WW II?
WHICH IS IT?
03-21-2011, 12:16 AM #49
Arab league, leader already condemning the bombings strategy. What in Allah did he expect?
Than they were going to drop food parcels and strongly worded letter's.
If the arab league is so concerned with the bombing campaign, why don't they tell US/UK/France el tel, to stop we'll bomb the Libyans the RIGHT way. Put up or shut up. Don't vote for something, if you know civilians are going to be killed. Bombs don't discriminate.
Might add that the leader of the arab league will be running for new president of Egypt. All these guys got elections coming up soon.
Not that I support "operation Odyssey Dawn", can't bomb the shït out of people without a funky code name.
Russians have also regretted their decision, and worried about the way the no fly zone is being conducted.
I give it a month or so, some "shït storm" will occur that will lead to Foreign boots on the ground.
So the US can built another Billion Dollar Embassy, with torture cells, so they can continue with rendition flights of supposed "terrorists.
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03-21-2011, 02:37 PM #50
Quote:I give it a month or so, some "shït storm" will occur that will lead to Foreign boots on the ground.03-21-2011, 02:58 PM #51O yay, now I read NATO rumors that speak of upcoming invitations to Finland and Sweden to join the battle for human rights, freedom and demockracy in Libya03-21-2011, 03:13 PM #52that's ƒükkêd up Octo, all they're doing is attempting to add some legitimacy to their murdering wars. Harper squandered Canada's integrity long ago.03-21-2011, 03:20 PM #53Along the same lines, I read this earlier and found it interesting:
Quote:Libya: Another War, Another Pack of Lies
The corporate-financiers are dangerously flirting with their entire official narrative collapsing, as their progressive, Peace-Prize wearing puppet President Obama and the "radical reformer" David Cameron lead yet another war based on an Iraq-style pack of lies.
After weeks of peddling a litany of verifiable lies, the West has forgone any attempt to justify or veil their actions in legitimacy and has decided to go ahead with a UN rubber-stamped "no-fly zone." Far from having anything to do with preventing Qaddafi's planes from flying, the no-fly zone has translated into full-scale missile and aerial bombardments across Libya aimed at turning the tide for freshly rearmed Western-backed rebels.
The pack of lies.
Indeed, the same London Telegraph now dashing across their headlines "Britain and America have rained missiles on Libya as Col Muammar Gaddafi defied the world and continued to attack civilians," told us in the early stages of the US-backed Libyan unrest that Qaddafi had fled to Venezuela, citing "credible Western intelligence sources."
Of course, evidence that Qaddafi has been "attacking civilians" has not yet been produced in any shape form or way with US Department of Defense's Robert Gates and Admiral Mullen in fact, both confirming "Weâ€™ve seen no confirmation whatsoever." Additionally, BBC made an apparently little read footnote that their reports were impossible to verify.
BBC states in their article "The difficulty of reporting from inside Libya:" "The BBC and other news organisations are relying on those on the ground to tell us what's happening. Their phone accounts - often accompanied by the sound or gunfire and mortars - are vivid. However, inevitably, it means we cannot independently verify the accounts coming out of Libya. That's why we don't present such accounts as "fact" - they are "claims" or "allegations"."
03-21-2011, 04:21 PM #54Here's an interesting twist...
U.S.-led attack on Libya may force rebels to join forces with Gaddafi - expert
The expert said that the air strikes were destroying civilian and economic facilities and the declared goals of creating a no-fly zone over Libya ran counter to the U.S.-led coalition's real actions.
"The American and French military who have attacked Libyan sites are treading on a very dangerous line beyond which irreversible consequences may start and cause large-scale combat operations," the expert said.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?c...&aid=2382003-21-2011, 04:27 PM #55Leave it to the military to take a bad situation and turn it into a perfect cluster ƒück . Could have nearly predicted the level of fun.
03-21-2011, 04:47 PM #56Seems like in one day the coalition forces have killed and injured more civilians than Gaddafi did in 3 weeks. Now they have a common enemy, both Gaddafi and the rebels must, they must be aware of the consequences of US intervention.03-21-2011, 08:55 PM #57Shadow
same everywhere else
Justification for invasions lately seem to always be: THAT FUCKER IS A HITLER THAT KILLS HIS OWN PEOPLE
THEN: the World SWIPE FORCE invades
kills tens of thousands
and smiles in your face about it.
Meanwhile,,, the populace of the invaders
ignore their complicity via their REFUSAL to attempt any course of action in order to at the least
VOICE opposition to the Heinous Carnage their PENTAGON COMMITS.
Would i fight for my Country?
The United States ?
By Country, do you mean,,, the Marshmallow People of this world
do you mean, the BLOOD ATONEMENT ZEALOTS?
Again, i ask, define the term, COUNTRY?
Is the U.S. a country?
where'd people get that Idea?
U.S.,,,,, is "NOT" a Country
it is a Pirate Strong hold man.
03-21-2011, 11:07 PM #58
Quote:NATO has confirmed to Helsingin Sanomat that it is interested in the possibilities of Partnership for Peace countries like Finland to take part in the allianceâ€™s actions in Libya in enforcing the arms export ban and the no-fly zone imposed on the country.
why in hells name do they come up with names like Partnership for Peace when it's anything but03-22-2011, 05:58 PM #5903-24-2011, 01:07 AM #60
Quote:One of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi's sons died in a Tripoli hospital of suffering severe burn wounds, a German website reported on Monday.
Khamis, aged 32 and Gaddafi's sixth son, was allegedly injured on Saturday when a Libyan Air Force pilot deliberately ploughed his jet into a compound in Tripoli where Gaddafi and some of his family were staying, the Deutsch-Tuerkische Nachrichten said.
I'm surprised thy haven't bought a pack of playing cards with Gaddafi family and friends on it. Can't believe looking back that Bush did that in Iraq. No shame.
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