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02-27-2011 03:40 PM#1
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
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Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
“Police have just announced to the crowds inside the occupied State Capitol of Wisconsin: ‘We have been ordered by the legislature to kick you all out at 4:00 today. But we know what’s right from wrong. We will not be kicking anyone out, in fact, we will be sleeping here with you!’ Unreal.”

http://understory.ran.org/2011/02/25/bre...e-capitol/

Getting interesting...
02-27-2011 04:36 PM#2
OctoMother Superior
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
wow! damned.gif We need a popcorn emote. Interesting for sure
02-27-2011 05:00 PM#3
HerculesAlpha Mule
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
I think that's so cool. Representing the people for a change. hi5.gif
02-27-2011 05:02 PM#4
OctoMother Superior
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
No shït Hercules wave.gif I see why they want dumb people in the police force chuckle.gif
02-27-2011 05:10 PM#5
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
Pinned! beercheer.gif

I wonder if it was as much the new legislation would affect the cops too or if it was altruistic motives that made them? Either way, they're throwing their weight to the good side.

As the nation focuses on the efforts of Governor Scott Walker to take away collective bargaining rights from public employees in Wisconsin, new information is coming to light that reveals what is truly going on here.

Mother Jones is reporting that much of the funding behind the Walker for Governor campaign came from none other than uber-conservatives, the infamous Koch Brothers.

What’s more, the plan to kill the unions is right out of the Koch Brothers play book.


http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/0...ic-unions/

Gov Walker would seem to be a Koch sucker.
02-27-2011 05:11 PM#6
HerculesAlpha Mule
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
(02-27-2011 05:02 PM)Octo Wrote:  No shït Hercules wave.gif I see why they want dumb people in the police force chuckle.gif

wave.gif Octo.

Agreed. chuckle.gif
02-27-2011 05:16 PM#7
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
hi5.gif Almost brought a tear to my eye, this is going to go mega viral. This looks to be the beginning of the common man taking back the reigns of control from corrupt corporations and their puppet lawmakers.
Great stuff! Haven't allowed myself much hope for real change, so this is an improvement. People are finally fed right the ğck up!

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02-27-2011 05:17 PM#8
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
hug.gif Morning Herc! Could be the start of something eh?
02-27-2011 05:24 PM#9
HerculesAlpha Mule
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
(02-27-2011 05:17 PM)Shadow Wrote:  hug.gif Morning Herc! Could be the start of something eh?

Good Morning Shadow! hug.gif I really hope so. It seems most authority figures have become so separated from the populace they can't be trusted nor relied upon to protect our rights.
02-27-2011 05:25 PM#10
UpāsakaMember
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
Quote:The best way to understand Walker's proposal is as a multi-part attack on the state's labor unions. In part one, their ability to bargain benefits for their members is reduced. In part two, their ability to collect dues, and thus spend money organizing members or lobbying the legislature, is undercut. And in part three, workers have to vote the union back into existence every single year. Put it all together and it looks like this: Wisconsin's unions can't deliver value to their members, they're deprived of the resources to change the rules so they can start delivering value to their members again, and because of that, their members eventually give in to employer pressure and shut the union down in one of the annual certification elections.

You may think Walker's proposal is a good idea or a bad idea. But that's what it does. And it's telling that he's exempting the unions that supported him and is trying to obscure his plan's specifics behind misleading language about what unions can still bargain for and misleading rhetoric about the state's budget.

Walker's proposals do have important fiscal elements: they roughly double health care premiums for many state employees. But the heart of the proposals, and the controversy, are the provisions that will effectively destroy public-sector unions in the Badger State. As Matt Yglesias notes, this won't destroy the Democratic party. But it will force the party to seek funding from sources other than unions, and that usually means the same rich businessmen who are the main financial backers for the Republican party. Speaking of which....


Who is Scott Walker?

Walker was elected governor in the GOP landslide of 2010, when Republicans also gained control of the Wisconsin state senate and house of representatives. His political career has been bankrolled by Charles and David Koch, the very rich, very conservative, and very anti-union oil-and-gas magnates. Koch-backed groups like Americans for Prosperity, the Cato Institute, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, and the Reason Foundation have long taken a very antagonistic view toward public-sector unions. They've used their vast fortunes to fight key Obama initiatives on health care and the environment, while writing fat checks to Republican candidates across the country. Walker's take for the 2010 election: $43,000 from the Koch Industries PAC, his second highest intake from any one donor. But that's not all!:


Continue reading mother jones

Not that the Dems are that much better, But at least they don't go for the juggler to completely kill off the middle/working class as the GOP has/ is trying to do. As their concerns are truly the 0.001 that have most of the wealth. See Walker's Billionaire backers the Koch Brothers.

Quote:“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power” Benito Mussolini
That coming from the guy who was the first to go all out Fascist. But it didn't end up well for him, at least in the long run.

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02-27-2011 05:31 PM#11
OctoMother Superior
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"Koch sucker" rofl.gif
02-27-2011 05:41 PM#12
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
chuckle.gif

It isn't about budget cuts though, that's just their excuse to bust the unions..

This afternoon, Marty Beil, executive director of the Wisconsin Public Workers Union, sent a message to the Governor’s office agreeing to the cuts to pension & welfare benefits sought by Walker in his bill. The governor’s response was “nothing doing.” He wants the whole kit and kaboodle – the end of the collective bargaining rights of the public unions.

http://open.salon.com/blog/whatsthematte..._wisconsin
02-27-2011 05:42 PM#13
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
agent_smith.gif I'm certain the think tanks are already putting wheels in motion to infiltrate, divide and conquer in case this keeps spreading. Money whores.

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02-27-2011 05:48 PM#14
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
Good call JR, you'd be right

The Americans for Prosperity group, a Tea Party group that is a Koch Brothers front, has put up a website and petition called standwithwalker.com. The website attacks all collective bargaining – not just for public employees’ unions. Americans for Prosperity is also organizing a rally tomorrow in Wisconsin to support Gov. Walker.

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02-27-2011 07:43 PM#15
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
The website attacks all collective bargaining eh? 13.gif The wealthiest asshats cant get a minutes peace until they have all the money. Greedy ass soulless lizards need to control their natural reflex impulse to be control freaks.
Id rather live a life of poverty than be a wealthy moron.

And the meek shall inherit the earth.

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02-27-2011 09:03 PM#16
bohicaMember
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
It appears we live in interesting times.

There's plenty of room for all God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatoes!
02-27-2011 10:30 PM#17
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
wave.gif Interesting times indeed! Hey Bohica, good to see you!

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02-27-2011 11:47 PM#18
KreeperGriobhtha
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
With the recent health issues, I had forgotten about this topic. First chance I get, I will go over to WTF and read the article Prom posted. I could only glance over it last weekend, but the general gist I got was that they were operating as a union should.

That said, I want to state that I am not anti-union. I feel that unions have been of great benefit in the past. I have worked many places that could dearly use a union. I have also seen, first hand, how the unions get out of control. Therein lies the problem. They typically don't know when to quit. They ask for more and more until the employees are grossly overpaid and the products they manufacture are grossly over priced and consumers are left paying the bill until the company says "ğck it" and moves operations over seas. If this were not a rampant problem, I would completely support unions.

It seems that employers would look at the most successful companies and see how they treat their employees. The better you treat your workers the better they will treat you. It has been proven time and again that happy employees equal loyalty and higher productivity.

İmage
And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
02-28-2011 12:07 AM#19
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
(02-27-2011 11:47 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  It seems that employers would look at the most successful companies and see how they treat their employees. The better you treat your workers the better they will treat you. It has been proven time and again that happy employees equal loyalty and higher productivity.


Absolute truth I used to mange over a few guys and if you treat people with respect, pay them ok and make them feel part of the team its surprising what can be accomplished. Sorry to hear about the health issue still bugging you!cheers.gif get well now damnit! chuckle.gif

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02-28-2011 01:04 AM#20
KreeperGriobhtha
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
It's much better now!

Still nagging a bit, but much better.


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İmage
And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
02-28-2011 02:33 AM#21
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
(02-28-2011 01:04 AM)Kreeper Wrote:  It's much better now!

Still nagging a bit, but much better.


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cheers.gif Glad to hear it! Those things can take time.

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02-28-2011 10:37 AM#22
Accidental StonerMember
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
Hmmmm...hard time trusting the Pol-Ice, I have.

Damn, officially armed state branch people taking sides
against authority.
Sounds like the build-ups of many old civil wars.
Hope it doesn't go horribly wrong over there....

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02-28-2011 01:40 PM#23
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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hi5.gif Glad to see you made it AS! Nice avatar!doobie.gif

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02-28-2011 03:04 PM#24
ShadowMrs. Buckwheat
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
Hej AS! hug.gif Good point to not trust police. What's the saying? Keep your allies close and your enemies closer.
02-28-2011 04:00 PM#25
OctoMother Superior
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
(02-28-2011 03:04 PM)Shadow Wrote:  Hej AS! hug.gif Good point to not trust police. What's the saying? Keep your allies close and your enemies closer.

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The Art of War Wrote:All warfare is based on deception
02-28-2011 11:02 PM#26
KreeperGriobhtha
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
It's hard to say about the police in this case. In general, the people of this state are unlike anywhere I have ever lived.These are truly honest, hard working, down to earth people. There is a reason we just had a 31 year low crime rate. Seriously, it was nearly disturbing when we first moved here and took a bit of getting used to. No, really. Even the businesses operate that way. Hell, you can still pull up to nearly any convenience store or gas station and get free air! If the police have the same mentality, I could see them doing the right thing.

İmage
And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
02-28-2011 11:13 PM#27
JRIncognitoAnonymous
 
RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
(02-28-2011 11:02 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  In general, the people of this state are unlike anywhere I have ever lived.These are truly honest, hard working, down to earth people.

That was the way people were in Indiana too, Florida was a totally different experience though.
03-01-2011 12:31 AM#28
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
Quote:Capitol Building Still Closed, Windows Welded Shut, Other Shenanigans

bit more on the fast-moving story in the Capitol Building in Madison, Wisconsin:

• Clearly Scott Walker and the Capitol police are trying to deprive protesters of having access to the building. Both Defend Wisconsin and a coalition of labor unions have filed lawsuits and other enforcement actions. Defend Wisconsin went to US District Court to try to pry open the Capitol. Labor is filing for a temporary restraining order (TRO).

• Meanwhile, Capitol Police staff are welding the windows shut. The lack of access to the Capitol means that food and supplies cannot be sent in to those who remain. People inside can leave the Capitol building but not return, at least for the moment. So people had been passing food and other supplies through the windows. So according to multiple witnesses, the windows are being welded shut to break down the supply line. Attorneys for labor unions are collecting affidavits on this, as well as the illegal denial of access into a public building, which under the Wisconsin state constitution is prohibited. The victory of last night is turning into a very bitter one indeed.

• These are the type of things going on out there:

A cancer patient needing a colostomy bag change — a medical emergency — was denied access to the Capitol building holding the patient’s medication due to a surprise lockdown that has lasted for hours past the scheduled and well-publicized 8:00 AM doors-open time Monday morning.

This patient was kept outside for 80 minutes in the cold while Walker flexed his political muscle and ordered DOA to close the Capitol during normally-open daytime business hours in order to gradually muffle the overwhelming dissent of his proposed legislation, which denies health care to many of our most vulnerable citizens, including many children, and strips unionized workers of collective bargaining rights for which people have fought and died for decades.

• Meanwhile, the Senate Republicans have stepped up their pressure to try to get the Democrats to return. Now the Senate Majority Leader is basically holding their staff hostage:

Madison — Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald is clamping down on absent Democrats by seeking to take control of whether or not their staffers get paid.

Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) would have to review and approve timesheets for Democratic staffers, under a proposal put before a legislative committee Monday morning. Previously, Democratic lawmakers had signed off on their staff’s hours.

I’ve heard also that Fitzgerald may just fire the staffers after getting control of their pay.

link

:damned:Welding the windows shut?wtf2.gif

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03-01-2011 12:43 AM#29
yankeesskier
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
sure, welding windows shut sounds good, until they don't shower for a few days.

Biere.
03-01-2011 12:45 AM#30
JayRodneyⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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RE: Wisconsin Police Have Joined Protest Inside State Capitol
(03-01-2011 12:43 AM)yankees Wrote:  sure, welding windows shut sounds good, until they don't shower for a few days.

37.gif Welding windows shut are things that happen in zombie movies!

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