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100 passengers suddenly get sick. Flu suspected
09-06-2018, 11:59 PM #16
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(09-06-2018, 11:37 PM)Team Uzi Wrote:  It's a long enough flight to show signs of poisoning by the time it took to travel to JFK.
Gastroenteritis is the most common clinical presentation of nontyphoidal Salmonella infection. The incubation period is typically 2-72 hours; while atypical, illness has been documented even 14 days after exposure. Illness is commonly manifested as acute diarrhea, abdominal pain, fever, and sometimes vomiting.
Particularly if they were exposed in the first hour of the flight.

Did you see any reports of diarrhea? I didn't. Cholera without some diarrhea doesn't add up. Again, rapid onset would most likely be associated with people of below average health, not more well to do travelers.

The ability to contaminate only one plane's food or beverage supply would be quite challenging.

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09-07-2018, 12:03 AM #17
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(09-06-2018, 11:45 PM)Team Uzi Wrote:  More than 300 students were taken ill  earlier this year due to suspected food poisoning in Rouen city in France, regional authorities said.

Children, aged between 3 and 12, reported symptoms of vomiting and nausea after eating school lunches prepared at the same central canteen, Xinhua news agency reported.

Possibly the same terrorist?

There's been an unusual number of food poisonings in France this year.

The episode or episodes in France sound like food poisoning. I would look to see who is working in the cafeterias and if they didn't find it there, from the middle men and the original suppliers. There are lots of moslems in France who eat with one hand and wipe with the other.

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09-07-2018, 12:07 AM #18
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It's a 14 hour flight from Dubai to New York.

One of the largest planes in the world flying from Dubai was met by police, ambulances and firetrucks at John F. Kennedy International Airport on Wednesday when nearly two dozen passengers and crew members reported feeling ill during the 14-hour flight, officials said.

Emirates Flight 203, an Airbus 380, landed at approximately 9:12 a.m. from Dubai and 19 passengers and crew members reported symptoms that included coughing, a headache, sore throat, fever and other flu-like symptoms, New York City health officials said.

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09-07-2018, 12:17 AM #19
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(09-07-2018, 12:07 AM)Team Uzi Wrote:  It's a 14 hour flight from Dubai to New York.

One of the largest planes in the world flying from Dubai was met by police, ambulances and firetrucks at John F. Kennedy International Airport on Wednesday when nearly two dozen passengers and crew members reported feeling ill during the 14-hour flight, officials said.

Emirates Flight 203, an Airbus 380, landed at approximately 9:12 a.m. from Dubai and 19 passengers and crew members reported symptoms that included coughing, a headache, sore throat, fever and other flu-like symptoms, New York City health officials said.

No mention of diarrhea. Other flu like symptoms would be achy joints and muscles. The officials could have said there were cholera like symptoms, but they said flu-like. Every symptom they did mention matches the flu..

Sore throats are not a common symptom of cholera if a symptom at all. A "Differential diagnosis" would point away from cholera.

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09-07-2018, 12:21 AM #20
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(09-07-2018, 12:07 AM)Team Uzi Wrote:  It's a 14 hour flight from Dubai to New York.

One of the largest planes in the world flying from Dubai was met by police, ambulances and firetrucks at John F. Kennedy International Airport on Wednesday when nearly two dozen passengers and crew members reported feeling ill during the 14-hour flight, officials said.

Emirates Flight 203, an Airbus 380, landed at approximately 9:12 a.m. from Dubai and 19 passengers and crew members reported symptoms that included coughing, a headache, sore throat, fever and other flu-like symptoms, New York City health officials said.

PS. Your quote says both passengers and crew had taken ill. I believe crew members do not eat the food or drink that are served to passengers to avoid having a food poisoning or cholera outbreak among the employees during an emergency. This is a major clue that the illness was not caused by food poisoning and practically eliminates cholera as a cause.

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09-07-2018, 12:26 AM #21
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You're right.

Starting to sound more like a chemical flu.

Most of the people who became ill were on the lower deck of the airliner, closer to the
luggage compartments.

Even a small amount of benzene exposure can cause temporary nervous system disorders, immune system depression and anemia. Short-term affects include skin, eye, and respiratory tract irritation, headache, stomach irritation, drowsiness and dizziness. High levels of exposure can result in a rapid heart rate, excessive bleeding, tremors, vomiting, unconsciousness and death. Benzene can cause harmful effects on bone marrow and a decrease in red blood cells leading to myelofibrosis and myelodysplastic syndrome.

That’s how it starts. Chemical exposure symptoms feel like a flu.

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09-07-2018, 12:36 AM #22
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It's even possible that the passengers and crew where breathing exhaust from the engines.
That could explain a lot.
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news...vironment/

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09-07-2018, 12:40 AM #23
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(09-07-2018, 12:26 AM)Team Uzi Wrote:  You're right.

Starting to sound more like a chemical flu.

Most of the people who became ill were on the lower deck of the airliner, closer to the
luggage compartments.

Even a small amount of benzene exposure can cause temporary nervous system disorders, immune system depression and anemia. Short-term affects include skin, eye, and respiratory tract irritation, headache, stomach irritation, drowsiness and dizziness. High levels of exposure can result in a rapid heart rate, excessive bleeding, tremors, vomiting, unconsciousness and death. Benzene can cause harmful effects on bone marrow and a decrease in red blood cells leading to myelofibrosis and myelodysplastic syndrome.

That’s how it starts. Chemical exposure symptoms feel like a flu.

Chemicals could be a cause! Are they odorless? It might also depend on the location of the wi-fi antennas and routers. First class has the TV screens close to the passengers' heads., so it would be interesting to evaluate if they were the main ones to get sick, or was it people near the antennas and routers?

I flew round trip first class as a "Bucket list" completion 2-3 months ago. It knocked me for a loop watching a movie and being surrounded by lap tops and cell phones right next to me.

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09-07-2018, 12:45 AM #24
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Probably a malfunction in the air circulation scrubbers, mixing in jet engine exhaust.
Mystery solved.
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09-07-2018, 12:54 AM #25
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(09-07-2018, 12:45 AM)Team Uzi Wrote:  Probably a malfunction in the air circulation scrubbers, mixing in jet engine exhaust.
Mystery solved.

Not so fast. The cockpit has sensors on just about everything. They would certainly know if the air quality system were compromised.

Maybe you could stop resisting the most likely scenario since it is a mystery (to others) and the pilots didn't have monitors for the amount of harmful ions in the air. Furthermore, the symptoms are EXACTLY what I've been describing would take place with increased electronic technology.

The wi-fi on the plane might have been in need of some minor repair, thereby generating even more electronic pollution. The pilots probably would not have sensors for the wi-fi system since it is not a part of aviation safety just like your car might not have a sensor for your car's speakers.

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09-07-2018, 01:07 AM #26
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Pffft.
5G
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09-07-2018, 01:40 AM #27
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(09-07-2018, 01:07 AM)Team Uzi Wrote:  Pffft.
5G
İmage

Glad you were finally able to utter the words 5 and G. This could have been caused by 4G wi-fi because it is anything but benign. Come to think of it,  a huge plane that can carry 500 passengers and take looong flights WOULD be a prime target for more noticeable 4G and 5G effects. There is so much electronics on a plane that size and it's so close to the passengers. Physiologically brutal with the illnesses appearing late in the flight as the brutality continued and accumulated.

PS. Sorry about your horse.

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09-07-2018, 02:08 AM #28
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Sorry,
That's YOUR 5G horse that you keep beating to death.
The truth is Radiation is energy transmitted in the form of rays, waves or particles, commonly produced by cosmic particles, the sun and man-made devices, such as X-ray machines and nuclear reactors. ... But the radiation seeping into airliners is far from dangerous, experts say.

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09-07-2018, 02:58 AM #29
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(09-07-2018, 02:08 AM)Team Uzi Wrote:  Sorry,
That's YOUR 5G horse that you keep beating to death.
The truth is Radiation is energy transmitted in the form of rays, waves or particles, commonly produced by cosmic particles, the sun and man-made devices, such as X-ray machines and nuclear reactors. ... But the radiation seeping into airliners is far from dangerous, experts say.

I'm the one with the live cat and you're the one with the dead horse.

You have been informed REPEATEDLY that the immediate danger from wi-fi and 5G comes from the harmful ions not just the radiation. You've decided not to listen. When you're ready to listen, please let me know.

Keep in mind that if I were beating a dead horse, I would not have immediately accepted the French student food poisoning connection. I would have twisted and turned to make the story fit. I could have said that the students from 5-11 are still exposed to wi-fi when they are in their classrooms because the systems are only turned off when they are NOT using them. But i do my best to follow the evidence and let it take me to the conclusion rather than for me to force evidence to a conclusion.

Now get up to the blackboard and start writing.

Let's make 5G safe by installing zirconium ceramic bricks to the cell masts. It will save the providers billions of dollars quickly by reducing interference.

Can you ask yourself "Why do I love discovering how my protons can experience Loving Kindness?"
09-07-2018, 03:07 AM #30
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(09-07-2018, 02:58 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(09-07-2018, 02:08 AM)Team Uzi Wrote:  Sorry,
That's YOUR 5G horse that you keep beating to death.
The truth is Radiation is energy transmitted in the form of rays, waves or particles, commonly produced by cosmic particles, the sun and man-made devices, such as X-ray machines and nuclear reactors. ... But the radiation seeping into airliners is far from dangerous, experts say.

I'm the one with the live cat and you're the one with the dead horse.

You have been informed REPEATEDLY that the immediate danger from wi-fi and 5G comes from the harmful ions not just the radiation. You've decided not to listen. When you're ready to listen, please let me know.

Keep in mind that if I were beating a dead horse, I would not have immediately accepted the French student food poisoning connection. I would have twisted and turned to make the story fit. I could have said that the students from 5-11 are still exposed to wi-fi when they are in their classrooms because the systems are only turned off when they are NOT using them. But i do my best to follow the evidence and let it take me to the conclusion rather than for me to force evidence to a conclusion.

Now get up to the blackboard and start writing.

A previous response got lost which makes the end of my last reply inscrutable. In the missing post I suggested you start asking yourself a question with an inflection once or twice as needed. The question is this: "Can you ask yourself "Why do I love discovering how my protons can experience Loving Kindness?"

If you choose not to follow this advice, get your rear end to the blackboard and copy the question 500 times.

Let's make 5G safe by installing zirconium ceramic bricks to the cell masts. It will save the providers billions of dollars quickly by reducing interference.

Can you ask yourself "Why do I love discovering how my protons can experience Loving Kindness?"



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