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Acetaminophen: This popular painkiller also kills kindness
05-22-2016, 04:07 PM #16
White Ribbon call me
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(05-13-2016, 09:34 PM)Octo Wrote:  iagree.gif

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No but seriously I don't do paracetamol or any other prescription or otc drug besides ibuprofen maybe 6 tabs a years 13.gif

You are such a junkie, oh em gee. Failboat is organising an intervention, just giving you a heads up, yo..

Just say no..

yup.gif

Word up..
05-22-2016, 04:10 PM #17
White Ribbon call me
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(05-22-2016, 04:05 PM)Ninelives Wrote:  I take hydrocodone 7.5 for lung pain when I need it, but it has never broke my give a shitter, if anything it makes me nicer...

Now to much beer I turn into a total asshole.

To much beer in this Indian,I usually get a total ass chewing afterwards.

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orgazmo3.gif I've found myself in a few ass chews myself..

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05-22-2016, 05:03 PM #18
Octo Mother Superior
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(05-22-2016, 04:07 PM)the white wabbit Wrote:  
(05-13-2016, 09:34 PM)Octo Wrote:  iagree.gif

chuckle.gif

No but seriously I don't do paracetamol or any other prescription or otc drug besides ibuprofen maybe 6 tabs a years 13.gif

You are such a junkie, oh em gee. Failboat is organising an intervention, just giving you a heads up, yo..

Just say no..

yup.gif

Word up..

Thanks for the heads up 13.gif :heil:
05-22-2016, 06:35 PM #19
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,980 Threads:425 Joined:Jun 2012
(05-13-2016, 10:29 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  well it does tend to relax muscles..
and also to distance you from worries..

that isnt a bad thing.

Many SHTF preppers recommend bringing (or learn how to make) alcohol for medical purposes, but the dose of alcohol required to effectively relieve pain is high, and, so, as our bodies develop a tolerance to higher and higher alcohol doses, we then can become addicted.

I rarely have pain requiring an analgesic, but when I overdo it physically, I use heat therapy, physiotherapy, massage, a numbing cream (Voltaren) and rest. I also almost never get headaches (maybe due to eye strain only), but if I did, I would certainly try anything and everything as it is no quality of life being in pain and this trumps kindness.
05-22-2016, 06:37 PM #20
Coolchick Member
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(05-22-2016, 03:33 PM)omicron Wrote:  I was never sure if painkillers ever worked for me so I just stopped taking them and other meds.blink.gif

well they do work. except tylenol that has never worked for me.
just as well since it is one f the worst ones to take.
anyhow, it is temporary of course, since it is not the root cause and all.
just works for symptoms
and none of them are remotely good for you.

Just Plain Nuts.
05-22-2016, 06:39 PM #21
Coolchick Member
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(05-22-2016, 06:35 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(05-13-2016, 10:29 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  well it does tend to relax muscles..
and also to distance you from worries..

that isnt a bad thing.

Many SHTF preppers recommend bringing (or learn how to make) alcohol for medical purposes, but the dose of alcohol required to effectively relieve pain is high, and, so, as our bodies develop a tolerance to higher and higher alcohol doses, we then can become addicted.

I rarely have pain requiring an analgesic, but when I overdo it physically, I use heat therapy, physiotherapy, massage, a numbing cream (Voltaren) and rest. I also almost never get headaches (maybe due to eye strain only), but if I did, I would certainly try anything and everything as it is no quality of life being in pain and this trumps kindness.

yeah exactly
being in pain for 5 years is not a happy life.
it is not a life at all in fact. just an existence.

i can personally attest to that.

Just Plain Nuts.
05-22-2016, 06:42 PM #22
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(05-22-2016, 06:39 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 06:35 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(05-13-2016, 10:29 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  well it does tend to relax muscles..
and also to distance you from worries..

that isnt a bad thing.

Many SHTF preppers recommend bringing (or learn how to make) alcohol for medical purposes, but the dose of alcohol required to effectively relieve pain is high, and, so, as our bodies develop a tolerance to higher and higher alcohol doses, we then can become addicted.

I rarely have pain requiring an analgesic, but when I overdo it physically, I use heat therapy, physiotherapy, massage, a numbing cream (Voltaren) and rest. I also almost never get headaches (maybe due to eye strain only), but if I did, I would certainly try anything and everything as it is no quality of life being in pain and this trumps kindness.

yeah exactly
being in pain for 5 years is not a happy life.
it is not a life at all in fact. just an existence.

i can personally attest to that.

I am sorry your quality of life is lowered due to unmanageable pain...they say without health you have nothing.
05-22-2016, 07:02 PM #23
Coolchick Member
Posts:5,205 Threads:118 Joined:Mar 2013
(05-22-2016, 06:42 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 06:39 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 06:35 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(05-13-2016, 10:29 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  well it does tend to relax muscles..
and also to distance you from worries..

that isnt a bad thing.

Many SHTF preppers recommend bringing (or learn how to make) alcohol for medical purposes, but the dose of alcohol required to effectively relieve pain is high, and, so, as our bodies develop a tolerance to higher and higher alcohol doses, we then can become addicted.

I rarely have pain requiring an analgesic, but when I overdo it physically, I use heat therapy, physiotherapy, massage, a numbing cream (Voltaren) and rest. I also almost never get headaches (maybe due to eye strain only), but if I did, I would certainly try anything and everything as it is no quality of life being in pain and this trumps kindness.

yeah exactly
being in pain for 5 years is not a happy life.
it is not a life at all in fact. just an existence.

i can personally attest to that.

I am sorry your quality of life is lowered due to unmanageable pain...they say without health you have nothing.

it is true.

and thanks but.. i do what i can.
kinda hard to know what exactly to do, since no answers..
but, still i continue.
what else can i do right lol

Just Plain Nuts.
05-22-2016, 07:04 PM #24
omicron Member
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(05-22-2016, 06:37 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 03:33 PM)omicron Wrote:  I was never sure if painkillers ever worked for me so I just stopped taking them and other meds.blink.gif

well they do work. except tylenol that has never worked for me.
just as well since it is one f the worst ones to take.
anyhow, it is temporary of course, since it is not the root cause and all.
just works for symptoms
and none of them are remotely good for you.

I wish I knew a technique for self hypnosis to turn it off. Do you need painkillers sometimes?

If I know I have to endure it for a while I can deal with it mentally mostly although that's all I would be doing and not much else. Depends on the degree of pain though.
05-22-2016, 07:10 PM #25
Coolchick Member
Posts:5,205 Threads:118 Joined:Mar 2013
(05-22-2016, 07:04 PM)omicron Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 06:37 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 03:33 PM)omicron Wrote:  I was never sure if painkillers ever worked for me so I just stopped taking them and other meds.blink.gif

well they do work. except tylenol that has never worked for me.
just as well since it is one f the worst ones to take.
anyhow, it is temporary of course, since it is not the root cause and all.
just works for symptoms
and none of them are remotely good for you.

I wish I knew a technique for self hypnosis to turn it off. Do you need painkillers sometimes?

If I know I have to endure it for a while I can deal with it mentally mostly although that's all I would be doing and not much else. Depends on the degree of pain though.

well
i do not take them.
it isnt a good thing to do.. so it is rare if i bother.

for about 11 months of this, back when it all started, the dr's put me on percocets
i never had those before.
i felt kinda.. well shady and icky taking them too because i remember when ppl at the bar would sell them and take them for a 'high'
very very bad thing to do.
anyhow so i felt awful about that. i only had a half at a time
but still.
then when i got an appt with tcm dr i stopped. the evening before my fist appt
i took my last one.
i have some around here somewhere actually, from that last bunch.
but no. i dont really take any.

as far as methods i have tried everything and more.
no idea what it is, or what happened to have it, or how to get rid of it
but ive tried about every self healing, self help, alternative, herbs, lol.. i dunno
what else i could possibly do at this point anymore.
had a pretty long talk with god n spirit guides n whomever might hear me, about that very thing over coffee this morning.

basic premise was, tell me already. enough is enough.
right?

Just Plain Nuts.
05-23-2016, 03:10 PM #26
omicron Member
Posts:43 Threads:2 Joined:Feb 2016
(05-22-2016, 07:10 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 07:04 PM)omicron Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 06:37 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 03:33 PM)omicron Wrote:  I was never sure if painkillers ever worked for me so I just stopped taking them and other meds.blink.gif

well they do work. except tylenol that has never worked for me.
just as well since it is one f the worst ones to take.
anyhow, it is temporary of course, since it is not the root cause and all.
just works for symptoms
and none of them are remotely good for you.

I wish I knew a technique for self hypnosis to turn it off. Do you need painkillers sometimes?

If I know I have to endure it for a while I can deal with it mentally mostly although that's all I would be doing and not much else. Depends on the degree of pain though.

well
i do not take them.
it isnt a good thing to do.. so it is rare if i bother.

for about 11 months of this, back when it all started, the dr's put me on percocets
i never had those before.
i felt kinda.. well shady and icky taking them too because i remember when ppl at the bar would sell them and take them for a 'high'
very very bad thing to do.
anyhow so i felt awful about that. i only had a half at a time
but still.
then when i got an appt with tcm dr i stopped. the evening before my fist appt
i took my last one.
i have some around here somewhere actually, from that last bunch.
but no. i dont really take any.

as far as methods i have tried everything and more.
no idea what it is, or what happened to have it, or how to get rid of it
but ive tried about every self healing, self help, alternative, herbs, lol.. i dunno
what else i could possibly do at this point anymore.
had a pretty long talk with god n spirit guides n whomever might hear me, about that very thing over coffee this morning.

basic premise was, tell me already. enough is enough.
right?

Yeah, that's tough. Pain is quite a motivator. Even things that cause a lot of emotional stress, they force one to change things and try new things - been seeing some of that myself.
hug.gif
05-23-2016, 04:42 PM #27
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
Posts:31,350 Threads:1,438 Joined:Feb 2011
Chronic pain sucks, it tears you up emotionally after a while. Was in a car wreck a few years back and suffered with migraines for about three years, then on and off for another few years.
I took so much Hydrocodone it was ridiculous, but it was the only thing that helped as I couldn't take the preventative medicines as they all caused asthma like symptoms.

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05-23-2016, 05:23 PM #28
omicron Member
Posts:43 Threads:2 Joined:Feb 2016
I had persistent pain from a motorcycle accident and a sporting injury. Then on top of that for a while I had some muscular pain just riding a bike. It ended up that I couldn't play the guitar, so I lost an outlet to put my mind into.

It was the loss of sleep sent me a bit delirious overall. I think I have been lucky looking back now. I've always had to develop coping mechanisms to deal with the times.

I hope you're through it now JR.
05-23-2016, 05:30 PM #29
Coolchick Member
Posts:5,205 Threads:118 Joined:Mar 2013
(05-23-2016, 03:10 PM)omicron Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 07:10 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 07:04 PM)omicron Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 06:37 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(05-22-2016, 03:33 PM)omicron Wrote:  I was never sure if painkillers ever worked for me so I just stopped taking them and other meds.blink.gif

well they do work. except tylenol that has never worked for me.
just as well since it is one f the worst ones to take.
anyhow, it is temporary of course, since it is not the root cause and all.
just works for symptoms
and none of them are remotely good for you.

I wish I knew a technique for self hypnosis to turn it off. Do you need painkillers sometimes?

If I know I have to endure it for a while I can deal with it mentally mostly although that's all I would be doing and not much else. Depends on the degree of pain though.

well
i do not take them.
it isnt a good thing to do.. so it is rare if i bother.

for about 11 months of this, back when it all started, the dr's put me on percocets
i never had those before.
i felt kinda.. well shady and icky taking them too because i remember when ppl at the bar would sell them and take them for a 'high'
very very bad thing to do.
anyhow so i felt awful about that. i only had a half at a time
but still.
then when i got an appt with tcm dr i stopped. the evening before my fist appt
i took my last one.
i have some around here somewhere actually, from that last bunch.
but no. i dont really take any.

as far as methods i have tried everything and more.
no idea what it is, or what happened to have it, or how to get rid of it
but ive tried about every self healing, self help, alternative, herbs, lol.. i dunno
what else i could possibly do at this point anymore.
had a pretty long talk with god n spirit guides n whomever might hear me, about that very thing over coffee this morning.

basic premise was, tell me already. enough is enough.
right?

Yeah, that's tough. Pain is quite a motivator. Even things that cause a lot of emotional stress, they force one to change things and try new things - been seeing some of that myself.
hug.gif

it is a motivator, that is true
but after awhile it wears on you and then you get to despair
it just depends i think, on how long it goes on and if anything works.

frankly i am surprised i havent lost it completely by now.

Just Plain Nuts.
05-23-2016, 05:32 PM #30
Coolchick Member
Posts:5,205 Threads:118 Joined:Mar 2013
(05-23-2016, 04:42 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Chronic pain sucks, it tears you up emotionally after a while. Was in a car wreck a few years back and suffered with migraines for about three years, then on and off for another few years.
I took so much Hydrocodone it was ridiculous, but it was the only thing that helped as I couldn't take the preventative medicines as they all caused asthma like symptoms.

yeah

i hesitate to say that you were 'lucky'.. but i will say, at least you KNEW why you had pain.

i think that is the hardest thing about this.
no diagnosis.. which in turn means no coverage..

Just Plain Nuts.



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