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11-01-2015, 07:34 PM #16
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Those traits and behaviors can be attributed to most primitive tribes and I am not so sure attributing their spiritual leanings to 4th level ascension is correct as evidenced in primitive tribal warring.
11-02-2015, 03:24 PM #17
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(10-31-2015, 07:59 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(10-31-2015, 07:46 PM)WykdWych Wrote:  
(10-31-2015, 07:00 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  We started off as a one-celled bacteria in a primordial ocean.
"We are stardust"

yeah.. that is closer to what i lean towards as well..

primordial chi kinda thing.. source and all that..

im not a water person whatsoever lol..
no oceans for me, thx.
I'm a pisces, the twin fish star sign, but i dont really like the water and i hate swimming, dont wanna drown i suppose...

11-02-2015, 10:55 PM #18
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(11-01-2015, 07:34 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Those traits and behaviors can be attributed to most primitive tribes and I am not so sure attributing their spiritual leanings to 4th level ascension is correct as evidenced in primitive tribal warring.

Actually, the shamans of the ancestors were right,
I would feel inclined to say.

Existence does seem fractal in nature.

What I presume you mean by "4th level ascension"
was always present, always within individual reach.
Just as Creation is an ever ongoing thing. That nobody
but you yourself should know your Real Name was
considered self-evident by natural shamans of all
times. (Then the King's soldiers and priests came.)

Nothing is new under the sun...

Also:

The Saami, for instance, did not have a word for
"war" in their original language. Only sparse and
far between legends of skirmishes with roaming
Eastern folks.

Modern industrial mass slaughter looks way, way
less "ascended" to me, than the occasional clash
between hunter/gatherer bands, imho.
11-03-2015, 01:16 AM #19
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-02-2015, 10:55 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  
(11-01-2015, 07:34 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Those traits and behaviors can be attributed to most primitive tribes and I am not so sure attributing their spiritual leanings to 4th level ascension is correct as evidenced in primitive tribal warring.

Actually, the shamans of the ancestors were right,
I would feel inclined to say.

Existence does seem fractal in nature.

What I presume you mean by "4th level ascension"
was always present, always within individual reach.
Just as Creation is an ever ongoing thing. That nobody
but you yourself should know your Real Name was
considered self-evident by natural shamans of all
times. (Then the King's soldiers and priests came.)

Nothing is new under the sun...

Also:

The Saami, for instance, did not have a word for
"war" in their original language. Only sparse and
far between legends of skirmishes with roaming
Eastern folks.

Modern industrial mass slaughter looks way, way
less "ascended" to me, than the occasional clash
between hunter/gatherer bands, imho.

Sure, but NW was specifically discussing Native American people.
11-03-2015, 04:57 AM #20
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(11-01-2015, 07:34 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Those traits and behaviors can be attributed to most primitive tribes and I am not so sure attributing their spiritual leanings to 4th level ascension is correct as evidenced in primitive tribal warring.

Warring is not a primal activity. Aliens war, families war Friends war, America wars It's universal. There is good and evil in 4th density. Fourth density is also home to the service to self. The American Indian was plucked up from a high 3rd density world with a social structure of a 4th density life style.. They acted on consensuses. No one person giving the orders but by votes. A 4th density leaning. The Romans had dictators. The US was unique in this regard and had a constitution England had Queens and Kings dictators. Old souls equate to having many incarnations. A thousand is not unheard of. You can't see the complexities of the American Indian. They are seen as primitive. Savages even. by most.

A piece on 4th density

The lessons of 4th Density are more numerous, and bridge to some degree to the goals of 5th Density. In 4th Density the entity is further fine-tuning its mode of relationship to others. Where in 3rd Density the entity was surrounded by a mix of orientations, in 4th Density the mix is segregated.

The Service-to-Self entity finds others more difficult to dominate and control, as all others are so inclined. The struggle engrosses them, almost entirely, for some time. Eventually they learn how to proceed with other lessons, while surrounded by others whom they must somehow work with. This solution almost invariably involves a firm pecking order, and rules, lots of rules.

The Service-to-Other entity finds themselves surrounded by others they can count on, theoretically. Service-to-Others trust each other utterly, relying on each other to assume the role they volunteered for. Early in 4th Density there is much breach of trust. Entities coming from 3rd Density are not used to the intense dedication involved. They are used to being forgiven when things go awry, as most responsibility is shared in 3rd Density, which is seldom foolish enough to utterly trust that a task will be done without much checking and oversight. The Service-to-Other entity coming from 3rd Density is used to putting in a shift, documenting the work done or giving a status check, and knocking off work. Time now for play. In 4th Density play is a group endeavor, when the responsibilities normally looked after are temporarily transferred to others.

Thus, the reader can see that the orientation lessons of 4th Density are as time consuming as those of 3rd Density. However, in addition to orientation lessons, the 4th Density entity is greatly increasing their knowledge of how the Universe works. We have mentioned the IQ jump from 3rd to 4th Density, and that this increase in intelligence cannot be solely measured by an IQ test. It is a quantum leap. The time spent in 4th Density, studying, is not, therefore, time lost. The entity finds themselves, for the first time, truly able to contemplate the workings of the Universe.

İmage

11-03-2015, 09:47 AM #21
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I could tell you things about this planet , how it was changed into
a Biological garden and used as a kind of truck stop for travelers ,,

How some hominids here , were brought here and planted

How some were manufactured ( hybrid style )

and how this planet was set up as a space port

How the Pyramids were beacon towers

and how many different species have stopped here

how some have played God Game a few times ( until our weapons advanced )

and yes gold was mined by slave humans and shipped off planet

traded sold and used for technology on other planets

just as we do today , we seek species to exploit every where we go

this planet had some to exploit by off world people
11-03-2015, 01:55 PM #22
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-03-2015, 04:57 AM)Free Store Wrote:  
(11-01-2015, 07:34 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Those traits and behaviors can be attributed to most primitive tribes and I am not so sure attributing their spiritual leanings to 4th level ascension is correct as evidenced in primitive tribal warring.

Warring is not a primal activity. Aliens war, families war Friends war, America wars It's universal. There is good and evil in 4th density. Fourth density is also home to the service to self. The American Indian was plucked up from a high 3rd density world with a social structure of a 4th density life style.. They acted on consensuses. No one person giving the orders but by votes. A 4th density leaning. The Romans had dictators. The US was unique in this regard and had a constitution England had Queens and Kings dictators. Old souls equate to having many incarnations. A thousand is not unheard of. You can't see the complexities of the American Indian. They are seen as primitive. Savages even. by most.

A piece on 4th density

The lessons of 4th Density are more numerous, and bridge to some degree to the goals of 5th Density. In 4th Density the entity is further fine-tuning its mode of relationship to others. Where in 3rd Density the entity was surrounded by a mix of orientations, in 4th Density the mix is segregated.

The Service-to-Self entity finds others more difficult to dominate and control, as all others are so inclined. The struggle engrosses them, almost entirely, for some time. Eventually they learn how to proceed with other lessons, while surrounded by others whom they must somehow work with. This solution almost invariably involves a firm pecking order, and rules, lots of rules.

The Service-to-Other entity finds themselves surrounded by others they can count on, theoretically. Service-to-Others trust each other utterly, relying on each other to assume the role they volunteered for. Early in 4th Density there is much breach of trust. Entities coming from 3rd Density are not used to the intense dedication involved. They are used to being forgiven when things go awry, as most responsibility is shared in 3rd Density, which is seldom foolish enough to utterly trust that a task will be done without much checking and oversight. The Service-to-Other entity coming from 3rd Density is used to putting in a shift, documenting the work done or giving a status check, and knocking off work. Time now for play. In 4th Density play is a group endeavor, when the responsibilities normally looked after are temporarily transferred to others.

Thus, the reader can see that the orientation lessons of 4th Density are as time consuming as those of 3rd Density. However, in addition to orientation lessons, the 4th Density entity is greatly increasing their knowledge of how the Universe works. We have mentioned the IQ jump from 3rd to 4th Density, and that this increase in intelligence cannot be solely measured by an IQ test. It is a quantum leap. The time spent in 4th Density, studying, is not, therefore, time lost. The entity finds themselves, for the first time, truly able to contemplate the workings of the Universe.

Could not one look at tribal warring as service to others, in that, service to one's tribal members for protection of resources for continued survival to the detriment of the other tribe?
11-03-2015, 02:47 PM #23
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(11-03-2015, 09:47 AM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  I could tell you things about this planet , how it was changed into
a Biological garden and used as a kind of truck stop for travelers ,,

How some hominids here , were brought here and planted

How some were manufactured ( hybrid style )

and how this planet was set up as a space port

How the Pyramids were beacon towers

and how many different species have stopped here

how some have played God Game a few times ( until our weapons advanced )

and yes gold was mined by slave humans and shipped off planet

traded sold and used for technology on other planets

just as we do today , we seek species to exploit every where we go

this planet had some to exploit by off world people

Some of the many reasons our history has been wiped out, and replaced with ignorance of what's right in front of our faces.

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11-03-2015, 10:43 PM #24
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Some of earths life came from the ocean, humans cam from the stars.
11-03-2015, 11:36 PM #25
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My question ,,, where'd Hemorrhoids come from ?

we should send 'em back ,,,,,,,,,,,

PRONTO !
11-04-2015, 12:38 AM #26
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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İmage
İmage
I'm working on it.

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11-04-2015, 01:40 PM #27
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(11-03-2015, 01:55 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(11-03-2015, 04:57 AM)Free Store Wrote:  
(11-01-2015, 07:34 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Those traits and behaviors can be attributed to most primitive tribes and I am not so sure attributing their spiritual leanings to 4th level ascension is correct as evidenced in primitive tribal warring.

Warring is not a primal activity. Aliens war, families war Friends war, America wars It's universal. There is good and evil in 4th density. Fourth density is also home to the service to self. The American Indian was plucked up from a high 3rd density world with a social structure of a 4th density life style.. They acted on consensuses. No one person giving the orders but by votes. A 4th density leaning. The Romans had dictators. The US was unique in this regard and had a constitution England had Queens and Kings dictators. Old souls equate to having many incarnations. A thousand is not unheard of. You can't see the complexities of the American Indian. They are seen as primitive. Savages even. by most.

A piece on 4th density

The lessons of 4th Density are more numerous, and bridge to some degree to the goals of 5th Density. In 4th Density the entity is further fine-tuning its mode of relationship to others. Where in 3rd Density the entity was surrounded by a mix of orientations, in 4th Density the mix is segregated.

The Service-to-Self entity finds others more difficult to dominate and control, as all others are so inclined. The struggle engrosses them, almost entirely, for some time. Eventually they learn how to proceed with other lessons, while surrounded by others whom they must somehow work with. This solution almost invariably involves a firm pecking order, and rules, lots of rules.

The Service-to-Other entity finds themselves surrounded by others they can count on, theoretically. Service-to-Others trust each other utterly, relying on each other to assume the role they volunteered for. Early in 4th Density there is much breach of trust. Entities coming from 3rd Density are not used to the intense dedication involved. They are used to being forgiven when things go awry, as most responsibility is shared in 3rd Density, which is seldom foolish enough to utterly trust that a task will be done without much checking and oversight. The Service-to-Other entity coming from 3rd Density is used to putting in a shift, documenting the work done or giving a status check, and knocking off work. Time now for play. In 4th Density play is a group endeavor, when the responsibilities normally looked after are temporarily transferred to others.

Thus, the reader can see that the orientation lessons of 4th Density are as time consuming as those of 3rd Density. However, in addition to orientation lessons, the 4th Density entity is greatly increasing their knowledge of how the Universe works. We have mentioned the IQ jump from 3rd to 4th Density, and that this increase in intelligence cannot be solely measured by an IQ test. It is a quantum leap. The time spent in 4th Density, studying, is not, therefore, time lost. The entity finds themselves, for the first time, truly able to contemplate the workings of the Universe.

Could not one look at tribal warring as service to others, in that, service to one's tribal members for protection of resources for continued survival to the detriment of the other tribe?

Yes, most definitely. Taking the aggressor down in the act of protecting others as well as oneself and even sacrificing yourself for others is service to others. Sacrifice for others is most highly honored in the scheme of things. A house on fire with others in it calling for help and the passerby thinking not of themselves and leaps into action is one of the best of human traits. Rising to the occasion. Glad we see things the same. I misinterpreted you I think.cheers.gif

İmage

11-04-2015, 07:40 PM #28
US nli Incognito Anonymous
 
(11-04-2015, 01:40 PM)Free Store Wrote:  
(11-03-2015, 01:55 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(11-03-2015, 04:57 AM)Free Store Wrote:  
(11-01-2015, 07:34 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Those traits and behaviors can be attributed to most primitive tribes and I am not so sure attributing their spiritual leanings to 4th level ascension is correct as evidenced in primitive tribal warring.

Warring is not a primal activity. Aliens war, families war Friends war, America wars It's universal. There is good and evil in 4th density. Fourth density is also home to the service to self. The American Indian was plucked up from a high 3rd density world with a social structure of a 4th density life style.. They acted on consensuses. No one person giving the orders but by votes. A 4th density leaning. The Romans had dictators. The US was unique in this regard and had a constitution England had Queens and Kings dictators. Old souls equate to having many incarnations. A thousand is not unheard of. You can't see the complexities of the American Indian. They are seen as primitive. Savages even. by most.

A piece on 4th density

The lessons of 4th Density are more numerous, and bridge to some degree to the goals of 5th Density. In 4th Density the entity is further fine-tuning its mode of relationship to others. Where in 3rd Density the entity was surrounded by a mix of orientations, in 4th Density the mix is segregated.

The Service-to-Self entity finds others more difficult to dominate and control, as all others are so inclined. The struggle engrosses them, almost entirely, for some time. Eventually they learn how to proceed with other lessons, while surrounded by others whom they must somehow work with. This solution almost invariably involves a firm pecking order, and rules, lots of rules.

The Service-to-Other entity finds themselves surrounded by others they can count on, theoretically. Service-to-Others trust each other utterly, relying on each other to assume the role they volunteered for. Early in 4th Density there is much breach of trust. Entities coming from 3rd Density are not used to the intense dedication involved. They are used to being forgiven when things go awry, as most responsibility is shared in 3rd Density, which is seldom foolish enough to utterly trust that a task will be done without much checking and oversight. The Service-to-Other entity coming from 3rd Density is used to putting in a shift, documenting the work done or giving a status check, and knocking off work. Time now for play. In 4th Density play is a group endeavor, when the responsibilities normally looked after are temporarily transferred to others.

Thus, the reader can see that the orientation lessons of 4th Density are as time consuming as those of 3rd Density. However, in addition to orientation lessons, the 4th Density entity is greatly increasing their knowledge of how the Universe works. We have mentioned the IQ jump from 3rd to 4th Density, and that this increase in intelligence cannot be solely measured by an IQ test. It is a quantum leap. The time spent in 4th Density, studying, is not, therefore, time lost. The entity finds themselves, for the first time, truly able to contemplate the workings of the Universe.

Could not one look at tribal warring as service to others, in that, service to one's tribal members for protection of resources for continued survival to the detriment of the other tribe?

Yes, most definitely. Taking the aggressor down in the act of protecting others as well as oneself and even sacrificing yourself for others is service to others. Sacrifice for others is most highly honored in the scheme of things. A house on fire with others in it calling for help and the passerby thinking not of themselves and leaps into action is one of the best of human traits. Rising to the occasion. Glad we see things the same. I misinterpreted you I think.cheers.gif

I am not sure you misinterpreted me, my point speaks to perspective as to 'service to others' (to one's tribe mates, but not to any tribal people outside of tribe). Considering Native American peoples were warring with others', I cannot deem them to be at a higher spiritual level. Then we have individuals' acting alone. I recall reading an aboriginal tale (probably true) where a young warrior was jealous of another warrior who had fought a great bear and wore the bear's teeth around his neck. The jealous warrior went into a hibernating bear's chamber, killed the bear, and wore it's teeth around his neck. Everyone knew is was hibernation season and he was looked down upon for this act.
11-04-2015, 07:45 PM #29
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(11-04-2015, 07:40 PM)US nli Wrote:  
(11-04-2015, 01:40 PM)Free Store Wrote:  
(11-03-2015, 01:55 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(11-03-2015, 04:57 AM)Free Store Wrote:  
(11-01-2015, 07:34 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Those traits and behaviors can be attributed to most primitive tribes and I am not so sure attributing their spiritual leanings to 4th level ascension is correct as evidenced in primitive tribal warring.

Warring is not a primal activity. Aliens war, families war Friends war, America wars It's universal. There is good and evil in 4th density. Fourth density is also home to the service to self. The American Indian was plucked up from a high 3rd density world with a social structure of a 4th density life style.. They acted on consensuses. No one person giving the orders but by votes. A 4th density leaning. The Romans had dictators. The US was unique in this regard and had a constitution England had Queens and Kings dictators. Old souls equate to having many incarnations. A thousand is not unheard of. You can't see the complexities of the American Indian. They are seen as primitive. Savages even. by most.

A piece on 4th density

The lessons of 4th Density are more numerous, and bridge to some degree to the goals of 5th Density. In 4th Density the entity is further fine-tuning its mode of relationship to others. Where in 3rd Density the entity was surrounded by a mix of orientations, in 4th Density the mix is segregated.

The Service-to-Self entity finds others more difficult to dominate and control, as all others are so inclined. The struggle engrosses them, almost entirely, for some time. Eventually they learn how to proceed with other lessons, while surrounded by others whom they must somehow work with. This solution almost invariably involves a firm pecking order, and rules, lots of rules.

The Service-to-Other entity finds themselves surrounded by others they can count on, theoretically. Service-to-Others trust each other utterly, relying on each other to assume the role they volunteered for. Early in 4th Density there is much breach of trust. Entities coming from 3rd Density are not used to the intense dedication involved. They are used to being forgiven when things go awry, as most responsibility is shared in 3rd Density, which is seldom foolish enough to utterly trust that a task will be done without much checking and oversight. The Service-to-Other entity coming from 3rd Density is used to putting in a shift, documenting the work done or giving a status check, and knocking off work. Time now for play. In 4th Density play is a group endeavor, when the responsibilities normally looked after are temporarily transferred to others.

Thus, the reader can see that the orientation lessons of 4th Density are as time consuming as those of 3rd Density. However, in addition to orientation lessons, the 4th Density entity is greatly increasing their knowledge of how the Universe works. We have mentioned the IQ jump from 3rd to 4th Density, and that this increase in intelligence cannot be solely measured by an IQ test. It is a quantum leap. The time spent in 4th Density, studying, is not, therefore, time lost. The entity finds themselves, for the first time, truly able to contemplate the workings of the Universe.

Could not one look at tribal warring as service to others, in that, service to one's tribal members for protection of resources for continued survival to the detriment of the other tribe?

Yes, most definitely. Taking the aggressor down in the act of protecting others as well as oneself and even sacrificing yourself for others is service to others. Sacrifice for others is most highly honored in the scheme of things. A house on fire with others in it calling for help and the passerby thinking not of themselves and leaps into action is one of the best of human traits. Rising to the occasion. Glad we see things the same. I misinterpreted you I think.cheers.gif

I am not sure you misinterpreted me, my point speaks to perspective as to 'service to others' (to one's tribe mates, but not to any tribal people outside of tribe). Considering Native American peoples were warring with others', I cannot deem them to be at a higher spiritual level. Then we have individuals' acting alone. I recall reading an aboriginal tale (probably true) where a young warrior was jealous of another warrior who had fought a great bear and wore the bear's teeth around his neck. The jealous warrior went into a hibernating bear's chamber, killed the bear, and wore it's teeth around his neck. Everyone knew is was hibernation season and he was looked down upon for this act.

In reply to this: "Also was the American Indian. Only race that really cares about the environment."
11-05-2015, 01:52 AM #30
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The original intent of my post was to say the American Indian was not created here but were a transplant race. They interbred with the Asian race.. Though the Indian would carry the original genes, they have a different, from other races, slant on life. As a group they did things in meaningful ways. Apart from what the other races of man did. They did their bidding on a democratic level. They resolved things on a different level. The Indian as a whole did not incarcerate, hang whipped the begeebers of another or any other service to self punishment to my knowledge

The warring comment was a sideline comment. But the intent to the post was to broaden ones eyes. Seems not all agree.

Also in answer to your last post, what race has not succome to the oil barons and it's promises of riches?

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