Boeing chose profit over candor. They are being charged with fraud conspiracy. To be fair this model is not the 737 MAX, so it will be interesting to learn from the black box what causes this crash.

Tragic.

Boeing, boeing, GONE.

Those need to be taken out of service.

(01-11-2021, 02:16 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  Those need to be taken out of service.

I have flown probably a dozen times in Indonesia including in and out of Jakarta, most likely on 737's before the max, and had an incident above Yogyakarta when we were landing. At around 6,000 feet the plane took off almost vertically, which is very dangerous because the engines could stall. My guess is it was to avoid a collision.

My point is Indonesia does not train their pilots properly, and they are reckless, probably same with maintenance staff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_av..._Indonesia

(Today, 06:57 AM)Nomad Wrote:  

(01-11-2021, 01:16 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  Those need to be taken out of service.

I have flown probably a dozen times in Indonesia including in and out of Jakarta, most likely on 737's before the max, and had an incident above Yogyakarta when we were landing. At around 6,000 feet the plane took off almost vertically, which is very dangerous because the engines could stall. My guess is it was to avoid a collision.

My point is Indonesia does not train their pilots properly, and they are reckless, probably same with maintenance staff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_av..._Indonesia

I'd be terrified

(Yesterday, 06:57 AM)Nomad Wrote:  

(01-11-2021, 01:16 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  Those need to be taken out of service.

I have flown probably a dozen times in Indonesia including in and out of Jakarta, most likely on 737's before the max, and had an incident above Yogyakarta when we were landing. At around 6,000 feet the plane took off almost vertically, which is very dangerous because the engines could stall. My guess is it was to avoid a collision.

My point is Indonesia does not train their pilots properly, and they are reckless, probably same with maintenance staff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_av..._Indonesia

I mean c'mon, if the plane is a fuckup what is a pilot to do without foregone knowledge?