(03-05-2014, 06:21 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:
(03-05-2014, 06:04 PM)mcmxc Wrote: My point is, what he says directly goes against every discussion we've ever had. I hold a similar view to Mr. Allen in this case, but you've argued to the death with me that we're part of something bigger in the universe and all that noise. Like he says "I'm looking at the big picture here" and what he says is true...
Every hundred years the earths slate is wiped clean and flushed away and eventually everything turns into nothingness...
Inevitable and unstoppable entropy...
So what does anything really matter and really mean?!
I think you'll find your own way pal. Whenever you realise your life is your own, it took me years of research to get to my conclusion and realise it's about time to leave all this worry and 'research' behind. When I said you were 'mentally torturing yourself' yesterday, it may have seemed harsh but I meant it, and we've all done it. I still do sometimes, it's a habit I decided to break before it destroys me. There are so many mysteries, and stories which purport to solve those mysteries. There seems to be one message under the umbrella the majority of belief systems, and that (and this IS a personal interpretation) is to not fear death. I may spend a lot of time debunking alien theories, but here's what I believe (it is of course, fair game for debate/ridicule);
All of our histories most inhumane acts have stemmed from this pathological fear of dying, it leads people to adopt religion, spirituality, and then to fight those who's religion and spirituality differ. All so the mind can fight its way toward the knowledge that we'll be okay after the unknown. Our ego's take control of this process. From the Egyptian Pharaohs to the quests of alchemy any many explorers for the 'fountain of youth' or 'philosophers stone' to the 'transhumanists' we have today who see technology is the key to eternal life. All the worlds elite have ever wanted to do is stave off death, to do this, they need all the power and money to suppress the rest.
Christianity and the bible are a clusterf*** of mystery, but detail this obsession with immortality from the beginning. Notice there are TWO trees in the garden of Eden which the 'first' humans cannot eat of. The first is 'the tree of knowledge of good and evil' which they eat from. God removes them from the garden to prevent them eating from the 'tree of life' where those who eat 'become like gods'. I believe god is nothing more than a metaphor for the elite, and Adam & Eve of the common man. At the time of the writing of the bible, with books and learning material becoming more common, and self-educated peasantry on the rise (contributing to the downfall of paganism in the first place), the elite had essentially lost their control of not just knowledge, but knowledge of good and evil. An educated and 'good' public could be a huge obstacle for a stubborn, tyrannical 'evil' leader. So the message was (and evolved) that while the people could keep their knowledge of what was 'good' and what was 'evil', it wouldn't matter anyway because 'evil' became the 'occult' (meaning hidden from the eye, rather than satanism). And the occult continued their pursuit of immortality (the tree of life), while 'occulted'.
All this good and evil, god and satan, ALL of the history and the mythology. Metaphors regarding the human struggle for power between the elite who consider themselves occulted, illuminated and god like, and the common man. Even 'aliens' in modern culture are a metaphor for what the elite consider themselves as. There are many evidences of transhumanists defending to the death the idea that they aren't human. As if forcing humanity to evolve through trauma. Trauma being the real cause of evolution in ANYTHING, you can see why it makes sense. Trauma can be in the form of anything the mind or body doesn't like/want. If a species faces a distinct problem, like they can no longer hunt for food, this is collectively traumatic. Over time the species will (again, collectively) respond to the trauma and evolve a way to get food. This is where the rest of the theories like trauma based individual and mass mind control take effect. The mind control placates the public, bends them to the will of the elite, then they can carry on with their goals of total unhindered control while they set up their 'new world' where there is a transhumanist species, and a species of newly evolved, emotionally dependent slaves (the prime goal of Operation Monarch). I hate to compare this idea to a film, but if you've watched Elysium, it doesn't seem too dissimilar to that idea.
All the false power games you see (like in the Ukraine) and all the crazy stuff you read on the internet about aliens and the various (disinformative) conspiracy theories all tie in to the trauma to distract, to deceive. To control. There isn't a genuine conspiracy out there which doesn't tie in to this umbrella, it ticks off every box. It's logical, it's WELL within scientific reality (a lot of it may sound 'magical', but again it's just metaphors and a continuation of an 'age old' idea), most importantly it follows the basic rationale of the elite throughout every civilization in history. Control, deceit, and the desperation to live forever. I don't claim to have gotten everything right here, and there's an essay worth of stuff there isn't the time to include but this is roughly what I believe is going on.
Not too long after I was satisfied with this idea, I turned my sights elsewhere, to traveling. Not back to my original life (will any of us EVER really be able to go back to who we were before we were theorists?) but onward, to something new. This told me something I could never get from any other 'conspiracy theory'. That I was happy with it. Not so much happy, but at peace with it. The reason I think, conspiracy theorists are often doomed to spend their lives on forums is because of all the (disinformation) theories they come across, not one (deep down) do they truly believe. These whackjob alien theories that the likes of Icke spew are never satisfying, because they're all unfinished. Followers will dedicate their lives, waiting for the next fake reptilian picture or the next $30 book. Blissfully unaware they're donating their lives, money, and cognitive processes to the control mechanism. They aren't truth seekers, they're the blind being led.
What I'm saying is, that's the future of many people, it could've been me, it could still be any of you who create a traumatic, unhappy life for yourself and then waste it. The truth is out there of course, but we're never going to fully see it. We CAN'T. It's designed in such a way that snippets of truth lead to blatant lies, none of us can truly think we're smart enough to outwit the master manipulators, champions of thousands of years of institutional brainwashing.
I hope you don't think I'm a dick for telling people how they should live their lives, I'm trying if anything to do the opposite. To not tell you how to live your life but to inform you that your true happiness will NOT be on the homescreen of an alternative news site or at the top of a forum. Because in that sense, they have you right where they want you. And no good can come of that. Deep down you know all this, because deep down I did when I was... misled. There has to be a point where you take everything you've learned about the world and use to to forge a better life
or really what's the point?