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Atheism is a religion, too
04-25-2013, 05:16 PM #1
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Quote:For a theist there’s nothing quite like watching an atheist get an intellectual walloping from a preacher. There’s just something apocalyptic about it, and it most easily occurs when the atheist tries to chop up religion to irrelevancy without realizing that he is himself awfully religious.

It happened again recently at the Cambridge Union debating society when former Anglican Archbishop Rowan Williams took on the best known name in contemporary atheism, Richard Dawkins. They were debating whether religion has a role in the 21st century.

Dawkins said it didn’t.

Williams said it did.

In the end, Williams was handed a decidedly strong victory with more than two times as many votes from the audience as the infamous atheist, Dawkins. It was a triumphant day for the faithful and a shameful one for the irreligious.

But actually no one really is irreligious.

This world beats to the rhythm of religion in a thousand ways, and absolutely everyone is religious -- including atheists.

Religion certainly includes an idea of a God under whom man is inherently subservient, but religion also governs the belief system undergirding the way people think about, and live, their lives.

It tells them who their authority is and it informs their values and behavior. It gives them their sense of morality and goodwill, and it guides them in the way they treat themselves and others. Religion does nothing less than construct one’s view of the world.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/1...z2RU6U84Cb
04-25-2013, 05:22 PM #2
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Quote:Religion does nothing less than constrict one’s view of the world.

Fixed that for ya coffeetime.gif
04-25-2013, 05:23 PM #3
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(04-25-2013, 05:22 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
Quote:Religion does nothing less than constrict one’s view of the world.

Fixed that for ya coffeetime.gif


dont put words in my mouth
04-25-2013, 05:34 PM #4
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(04-25-2013, 05:23 PM)I⊥∀NIW∩LLIʞ Wrote:  
(04-25-2013, 05:22 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
Quote:Religion does nothing less than constrict one’s view of the world.

Fixed that for ya coffeetime.gif


dont put words in my mouth


chuckle.gif sorry
04-25-2013, 05:43 PM #5
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(04-25-2013, 05:34 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(04-25-2013, 05:23 PM)I⊥∀NIW∩LLIʞ Wrote:  
(04-25-2013, 05:22 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
Quote:Religion does nothing less than constrict one’s view of the world.

Fixed that for ya coffeetime.gif


dont put words in my mouth


chuckle.gif sorry


you should be cuz thats a very fucked up thing to do
04-25-2013, 05:45 PM #6
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(04-25-2013, 05:43 PM)I⊥∀NIW∩LLIʞ Wrote:  
(04-25-2013, 05:34 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(04-25-2013, 05:23 PM)I⊥∀NIW∩LLIʞ Wrote:  
(04-25-2013, 05:22 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
Quote:Religion does nothing less than constrict one’s view of the world.

Fixed that for ya coffeetime.gif


dont put words in my mouth


chuckle.gif sorry


you should be cuz thats a very fucked up thing to do


I SAID I'm sorry lmao.gif U and I are so far apart on the keyboard lmao.gif
04-25-2013, 06:05 PM #7
MichaelAlanKeith Member
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(04-25-2013, 05:22 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
Quote:Religion does nothing less than constrict one’s view of the world.

Fixed that for ya coffeetime.gif



For a very long time religion was the main source of civilization. The rules brought us above animal status. The system enabled large groups of people to build complex societies and build bases of knowledge.

It may not be as good at that today, and there are obvious conflicts where different religions meet, but it still serves to limit extreme behavior in a lot of people.

Dark as Light;
04-25-2013, 06:08 PM #8
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(04-25-2013, 06:05 PM)MichaelAlanKeith Wrote:  For a very long time religion was the main source of civilization. The rules brought us above animal status. The system enabled large groups of people to build complex societies and build bases of knowledge.

It may not be as good at that today, and there are obvious conflicts where different religions meet, but it still serves to limit extreme behavior in a lot of people.


The damage done in the name of 'god' far outweighs any benefits.
04-25-2013, 06:14 PM #9
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(04-25-2013, 06:08 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(04-25-2013, 06:05 PM)MichaelAlanKeith Wrote:  For a very long time religion was the main source of civilization. The rules brought us above animal status. The system enabled large groups of people to build complex societies and build bases of knowledge.

It may not be as good at that today, and there are obvious conflicts where different religions meet, but it still serves to limit extreme behavior in a lot of people.


The damage done in the name of 'god' far outweighs any benefits.


that is why the most evil men to ever walk the face of this planet were in fact atheist

04-25-2013, 06:16 PM #10
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(04-25-2013, 06:14 PM)I⊥∀NIW∩LLIʞ Wrote:  that is why the most evil men to ever walk the face of this planet were in fact atheist


Well that's convenient lol.gif but didn't you post aetheism is a religion too?
04-25-2013, 06:18 PM #11
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(04-25-2013, 06:16 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(04-25-2013, 06:14 PM)I⊥∀NIW∩LLIʞ Wrote:  that is why the most evil men to ever walk the face of this planet were in fact atheist


Well that's convenient lol.gif but didn't you post aetheism is a religion too?


it is but I know you guys cant admit it unless you're in court then you expect the same rights as any other religion
04-25-2013, 06:19 PM #12
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(04-25-2013, 06:08 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(04-25-2013, 06:05 PM)MichaelAlanKeith Wrote:  For a very long time religion was the main source of civilization. The rules brought us above animal status. The system enabled large groups of people to build complex societies and build bases of knowledge.

It may not be as good at that today, and there are obvious conflicts where different religions meet, but it still serves to limit extreme behavior in a lot of people.


The damage done in the name of 'god' far outweighs any benefits.



I used to think the same. But without organized religion and conservative laws about things like marriage, theft and murder what would the world be like today?

If Europe had not conquered the world and brought modern civilization, no matter how many people they killed doing it, the world would not be better off today.

And if there had not been mass slaughter in all the modern wars what would the population of Asia be today? Would they be able to feed themselves, or would they have destroyed themselves from their own internal food wars?

I know that religion has done a lot of harm. But the nature of MAN is worse.

If you don't believe me go walk through dark alleys on the wrong side of town at night.

Dark as Light;
04-25-2013, 06:32 PM #13
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(04-25-2013, 06:18 PM)I⊥∀NIW∩LLIʞ Wrote:  it is but I know you guys cant admit it unless you're in court then you expect the same rights as any other religion


What have the ... oh I see swear on the bible. No, nobody has ever lied under oath chuckle.gif
04-25-2013, 06:35 PM #14
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(04-25-2013, 06:19 PM)MichaelAlanKeith Wrote:  I used to think the same. But without organized religion and conservative laws about things like marriage, theft and murder what would the world be like today?

If Europe had not conquered the world and brought modern civilization, no matter how many people they killed doing it, the world would not be better off today.

And if there had not been mass slaughter in all the modern wars what would the population of Asia be today? Would they be able to feed themselves, or would they have destroyed themselves from their own internal food wars?

I know that religion has done a lot of harm. But the nature of MAN is worse.

If you don't believe me go walk through dark alleys on the wrong side of town at night.


Laws and decency existed before religion, just as roads and hospitals existed before income tax. People don't need some fictitious god or threat of hell to know right from wrong.
04-25-2013, 06:37 PM #15
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Can't happen. God strikes those people dead at some point in their lives. beerbong.gif

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