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Big oil's frackin' pollution
04-18-2011, 07:17 AM #1
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Now we find out they have been polluting our fresh water also.


Here's the damn link.

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04-18-2011, 03:16 PM #2
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Now to finish the post I was too sleepy to finish in the op.

This article discusses the chemicals that are being used in frack drilling and how they have been dumping the waste in our clean water supplies.

Eh, you can read it. I'm still tired and getting sick again. Will winter ever end? Ice pellets tomorrow and snow again Wednesday.

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04-18-2011, 03:28 PM #3
Octo Mother Superior
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gaah.gif When are these bitches going to be held accountable for this kind of shït
04-18-2011, 03:29 PM #4
yankees skier
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04-18-2011, 03:42 PM #5
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Petroleum products leeching in to the water supply is just the big business way of letting Americans know they are not being treated differently than they treat human life in Africa.

Everyone and everything is expendable in the name of profit, clearly; US residents are no exception. 13.gif

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04-18-2011, 03:51 PM #6
Kreeper Griobhtha
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It's gonna get worse. This is what has been causing the earthquake swarm in Arkansas. They are also starting to hit West Virginia. That beautiful state will be unliviable by the time they are done raping it for the coal and natural gas.

By the way, don't fall for the bullshit about the natural gas being a gateway fuel to cleaner options.


It's not true.

I am not your rolling wheels, I am the highway
I am not your carpet ride I am the sky
I am not your blowing wind, I am the lightning
I am not your autumn moon, I am the night
The night
04-18-2011, 03:52 PM #7
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(04-18-2011, 03:42 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Petroleum products leeching in to the water supply is just the big business way of letting Americans know they are not being treated differently than they treat human life in Africa.

Everyone and everything is expendable in the name of profit, clearly; US residents are no exception. 13.gif

The petroleum products are the least of the issue. The big problem is the chemicals they use in fracking.

I am not your rolling wheels, I am the highway
I am not your carpet ride I am the sky
I am not your blowing wind, I am the lightning
I am not your autumn moon, I am the night
The night
04-18-2011, 04:07 PM #8
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Formaldehyde, ammonium chloride, acetic anhydride, methanol, hydrochloric acid, and propargyl alcohol to name a few. When I was talking petroleum I was thinking more derivatives, oils, butanol, esters, methanol,etc.

Bad news for any of these substances to go in the ground.

http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/...12e83.html

A national database
for the ingredients used in a controversial technique for obtaining oil and gas was opened for use. The database, located at http://www.fracfocus.org, is a place for companies to voluntarily list the contents of the fluid used in hydraulic fracturing.

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04-18-2011, 04:56 PM #9
Kreeper Griobhtha
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The key word is "voluntarily". They all have various "secret ingredients" they use. Incidentally, the footprint of one of these fracking wells is about fifteen acres. You also need to consider the methane that is leaked.

Nothing good can come of this.

I am not your rolling wheels, I am the highway
I am not your carpet ride I am the sky
I am not your blowing wind, I am the lightning
I am not your autumn moon, I am the night
The night
04-18-2011, 08:06 PM #10
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Secret ingredients, they make it sound like KFC. gaah.gif

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04-18-2011, 08:54 PM #11
Accidental Stoner Member
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Damn... :(
04-18-2011, 10:12 PM #12
Tacolover II Member
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(04-18-2011, 03:51 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  It's gonna get worse. This is what has been causing the earthquake swarm in Arkansas. They are also starting to hit West Virginia. That beautiful state will be unliviable by the time they are done raping it for the coal and natural gas.

By the way, don't fall for the bullshit about the natural gas being a gateway fuel to cleaner options.


It's not true.

Agreed, seems the EPA is just catching on, Hydraulic Fracking can damage geological formations and open fissures draining lakes, cause earthquakes not to mention foul water from the methane itself let alone release the methane in the atmosphere. Thought I had a post about all this...Guess there was a more important post like schilling for big oil.

I am against it until we can control the fracture which at this time we cannot. EPA is cracking down on Frack fluids-at least that's a small step in the correct direction...13.gif
04-19-2011, 12:44 AM #13
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(04-18-2011, 10:12 PM)Tacolover II Wrote:  
(04-18-2011, 03:51 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  It's gonna get worse. This is what has been causing the earthquake swarm in Arkansas. They are also starting to hit West Virginia. That beautiful state will be unliviable by the time they are done raping it for the coal and natural gas.

By the way, don't fall for the bullshit about the natural gas being a gateway fuel to cleaner options.


It's not true.
Guess there was a more important post like schilling for big oil.


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I've spent a good bit of time in West Virginia. It's one of the most beautiful places I've ever been. Unfortunately, between King Coal and those frackers, they are destroying the place.

I am not your rolling wheels, I am the highway
I am not your carpet ride I am the sky
I am not your blowing wind, I am the lightning
I am not your autumn moon, I am the night
The night
04-19-2011, 04:25 PM #14
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I've spent a good bit of time in West Virginia. It's one of the most beautiful places I've ever been. Unfortunately, between King Coal and those frackers, they are destroying the place.
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Not trying to drift or hijack this thread, story reminds me of a perplexing water well problem at a Ranch I used to hunt/guide on.
Ranch property on the Edwards Aquifer located 80-miles east of Del Rio Texas.Drinking water was from a well in that aquifer. For about 5-years at different intervals when showering and you either touched the showerhead or water faucets one would get a electrical shock. Sometimes very mild to almost bringing you to your knees. The frequency and intensity seemed to get wore as time went on.
We looked at everything, had the power company out, 1-of the owners was a electrical engineer graduate from Texas A&M owned a engineering firm. He sent out his best engineers to try and figure out the source. we tried everything called everybody that could help but nobody could figure it out. Texas A&M engineers came out as the one owner contributes a sizeable amount to the school annually. Nobody could figure it out.
The last year on deer hunting opening weekend there was a large group, people familiar with the problem made a comment that nobody had complained about the electrical shock. Wasn't a hour alter when a guy drove up to the ranch house and asked if we had any spare water. This man was with a group that leased the adjacent property and his well pump had finally given out. Said the submersible pump had been giving them troubles for about 5-years and they had no water at their deer camp which consisted of a couple of trailers.
It seems the pump had a grounding issue/short that traveled through the aquifer conducting the current through the aquifer right up to our water well which explained the frequency issues. We would only experience getting shocked when their pump kicked on. That was about 2002 and we still laugh about it. lol.gif
04-19-2011, 05:46 PM #15
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Wow! I can imagine nothing of that nature was even considered as being the source of electrical shock, no small wonder everybody missed it.

Truly odd that it could traverse the aquifer and still have the energy to shock dunno.gif thats something I've not heard of prior to this. Interesting situation.

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