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01-21-2016, 03:16 PM #1
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Quote:Former Mozilla CEO Chased Off by SJWs Announces New Internet Browser ‘Brave’

Ousted Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich has a new Internet browser, and it’s nothing less than you’d expect from the creator of JavaScript and co-founder of the company behind FireFox.

Brave is a new browser that aims to “fix the Web.” How? By blocking everything except the content you explicitly want. That means no ads, no cookies, nothing that you haven’t personally requested from the Internet. [...]

Brave browsers block everything: initial signaling/analytics scripts that start the programmatic advertising “dirty pipe”, impression-tracking pixels, and ad-click confirmation signals. By default Brave will insert ads only in a few standard-sized spaces. We find those spaces via a cloud robot (so users don’t have to suffer, even a few canaries per screen size-profile, with ad delays and battery draining). We will target ads based on browser-side intent signals phrased in a standard vocabulary, and without a persistent user id or highly re-identifiable cookie.

Read more: breitbart.com

Let's face it, Chrome and the new Edge browser that ships with WIndows 10 are spywareish, and if you care to do a bit of research, you can find out the specifics.
I don't make that statement based on opinion.
Chrome has become so hideous, it's blocking CSS on random sites across the web.
Firefox has become a lumbering midget that adopted an Internet Exploder interface. Microsoft even got rid of it. Edge has a Chrome like interface.
FF picked up a lousy idea, copied the screwed up abomination and called it a day.
I signed up this morning to beta test Brave. https://www.brave.com/
I'll report my initial impressions.
It's high time someone came along to challenge the so called big players.
Whilst I'm at it, I can't say enough about Vivaldi. https://vivaldi.com/
It's in Beta 2. Still has a few rough edges, but some forward thinking that I've never seen before.
Vivaldi was started by people who left Opera because of the direction it's moving.
Vivaldi uses Chrome plugins, so the usual assorted adblocker, Privacy Badger, and most other addons work flawlessly.
Vivaldi has plans in the works for a built in mail client as well.
I understand Mozilla is phasing out Thunderbird, and like FF, tis a resource hog.
People are reluctant to change browsers, but when you begin to realize the standard fare has become crap, it's time to explore some alternatives.
The more solid choices we have, the better.

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01-21-2016, 03:22 PM #2
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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Wonder if it will speed or slow browsing?

If TorBrowser is any indication it will be like chilly molasses.
01-21-2016, 03:33 PM #3
Kreeper Griobhtha
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I'm already usingVivaldi. Love it so far. Yes, there are still things to iron out, but so far so good.

Palemoon had so much potential. Unfortunately, it is quickly slipping. And their refusal to accept html5 is going to end up rendering it useless.

I'm also signed up for the Brave beta. Looking forward to giving it a try.

What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
01-21-2016, 03:40 PM #4
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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(01-21-2016, 03:22 PM)DaJavoo Wrote:  Wonder if it will speed or slow browsing?

If TorBrowser is any indication it will be like chilly molasses.

I hear ya' Daj...
TOR gaah.gif There are better ways to get ulcers than waiting for a web page to load. chuckle.gif

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Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
01-21-2016, 04:06 PM #5
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Good to hear about these new additions. Like Daj I'm a little concerned about the 'cloud' speed wise and security wise.
01-21-2016, 04:31 PM #6
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Tor is slow because it routes through six proxies around the world.

What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
01-21-2016, 04:55 PM #7
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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yup.gif It's a drag to use. I use it to test our security, like making damn sure all the exit nodes are blocked. chuckle.gif

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01-21-2016, 05:13 PM #8
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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(01-21-2016, 04:31 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  Tor is slow because it routes through six proxies around the world.

I dunno how they are going to keep the IP outta' the equation. Oh, I'm sure they won't use multiple proxies, but I can't figger how they are going to mask it unless there is a 'blanket' addy for the IP-rakers to send home to the mothership.

Ad Block+ means I never see an ad, but there is the obnoxious search-based crap that appears out of nowhere at times while on some sites. The collusion increases with numbing regularity.
01-21-2016, 06:00 PM #9
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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(01-21-2016, 05:13 PM)DaJavoo Wrote:  
(01-21-2016, 04:31 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  Tor is slow because it routes through six proxies around the world.

I dunno how they are going to keep the IP outta' the equation. Oh, I'm sure they won't use multiple proxies, but I can't figger how they are going to mask it unless there is a 'blanket' addy for the IP-rakers to send home to the mothership.

Ad Block+ means I never see an ad, but there is the obnoxious search-based crap that appears out of nowhere at times while on some sites. The collusion increases with numbing regularity.

It's very suspicious.

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Electric shock Show this Post
01-22-2016, 09:56 AM #10
Electric shock Incognito
 
not all browsers are created equal.. i cant use vivaldi anymore. norton found a backdoor type of anomaly..oh i forgot the name..
01-22-2016, 10:13 AM #11
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Hmmm... Haven't seen anything on that.
This happened on your local machine?

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Electric shock Show this Post
01-22-2016, 10:20 AM #12
Electric shock Incognito
 
yes. happened last year. i could try to download it again and see if it rejects it..but ive bookmarked brave browser as reference, always on the lookout trying out new browsers
01-22-2016, 10:28 AM #13
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/ne...di-browser

They gave Vivaldi a pretty good review, so far I've had no major gripes. It's still in beta, but it's got some nice options other browsers don't.
I find it renders far better than Chrome, and it's speedy.

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Ninelives Show this Post
01-22-2016, 10:59 AM #14
Ninelives Incognito
 
Cool, I am using Firefox I did not know about Vivaldi. I am fixing to download it and give it a try.

I think Norton is trash it locked up my computer a few times and made my system run slow...Using AVG Pro it rocks.

Thanks JR, I may have some questions later.
Ninelives Show this Post
01-22-2016, 12:06 PM #15
Ninelives Incognito
 
This is the search engine I use, got it set.

http://gibiru.com/



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