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Buddha GrandMaster talks about Aliens
07-24-2015, 10:40 AM #1
Phanes Incognito Anonymous
 
Hi All,

I have some lecture excerpts that you might be interested in. It's from a Buddha Master from the Falun Dafa school of QiGong. A very high level cultivation technique thats extremely righteous and powerful:

http://falundafa.org/

I recommend checking this out, especially the book 'Zhuan Falun':

https://www.falundafa.org/eng/eng/pdf/zfl_new.pdf

Wow what a read, it covers so many things, from the mysteries of the microcosm to the macrocosm, other dimensions, the soul, ancient prehistory, supernatural latent abilities, chi, gong energy and so many other things.

This practice is also being severely persecuted by the Chinese Communist Party with practitioners being sent to concentration camps, tortured, there organs sold on the black market and often killed:

http://en.minghui.org/cc/1/

http://stoporganharvesting.org/

In these following lecture excerpts, the founder of Falun Dafa, Mr Li hongzhi spells out the Alien Agenda that is upon this earth and it's implications to humanity as a whole.

The rest of the lectures that have been given around the world can be found here:

http://en.falundafa.org/falun-dafa-books.html

Also Mr Li Hongzhi has been interviewed by Time Asia, another fascinating read:

http://content.time.com/time/world/artic...61,00.html

But in closing, here are the lecture excerpts on the Alien Agenda that is taking place on our planet, I hope you will find them of interest:

Quote:

“Let me first explain what alien beings are all about. You know that this Earth isn’t the only planet with life in this universe, and Earth hasn’t existed just this once. I’m saying that at Earth’s position there were Earths that existed before. Those previous Earths were discarded. Some exploded. It happened many times—the number has been quite large. The final stage of an Earth has always been a time when its lives were the most corrupt and its matter was the most impure, so the Earth could no longer be kept. It would be eliminated since th e whole sphere had turned into a ball of karma.

The reason is, lives reincarnate . They reincarnate into soil, rocks, plants or matter, and regardless of what they are reborn as, they carry karma with them . Earth would become a ball of karma when karma was all over the place, so at that point it would be eliminated. There would still be some people on Earth who were relatively good, and those exceptionally few or extremely few ones were taken and placed onto another planet within the Three Realms.

Yet through the ages this Earth has been replaced innumerable times and each time there were people who remained. So over time those remaining lives increased in number. The gods in each time period created humans with a different appearance, so the differences are quite substantial, and there are some who were created on other planets. These are alien beings. They’ve become like a record of history , placed there like a page of history left behind . That’s the function they serve, a minor one. They were left behind from the final stage of Earth during those times, and took with them the technology they had in those times over to other planet s, so their starting point was more advanced.

Over this long period of time, the knowledge of the universe they came to grasp far exceeds that of the inhabitants of today’s Earth. Their bodies can enter other dimensions and adjust to the mode of those dimensions they are in; they ’ve developed to this stage. Those things they ride in that fly back and forth—those aircraft that human beings call flying saucers—can enter other dimensions and fly into other space-times. If they travel in a fast space-time, after being there for just a short while they traverse a long distance. So that speed is inconceivable to human beings. The types of fuel they use aren’t in the least the kinds of substances conceivable by the technology, theories, or concepts of modern science.

Over the ages, these alien beings have continually been developing and metamorphosing. So in this universe there have really appeared the abnormal social relations that these kinds of lives have. Greed and lust have caused something like star wars to actually happen over where they live. They haven’t yet threatened humankind because humankind doesn’t have the ability to pose a threat to them . So they haven’t attacked humankind.

They would attack humankind if you were to threaten them. Although alien beings haven’t attacked humankind, they know that a human bod y is the most perfect. They’ve thus taken a fancy to the human body and want to steal it. They saturate all domains of humankind with science to make human beings firmly believe in science and rely on it. When human beings ’ thoughts and way of existence are completely assimilated to the irs, they just have to replace people’s souls and humans will become them, and they will eventually replace the human race.

It ’s a long story. They have been coming here full-scale s ince the beginnings of the Industrial Revolution in the West. They ha d come prior to that time, but they didn’t control people then. Their full-scale arrival began when Caucasian society entered the industrial age. They made full preparations and systematic arrangements for occupying this earth. It was they who created science for human beings . So this science was set up by aliens. Their purpose was to unify human beings and simpl ify their thoughts to the point of being as uniform as machines. And they unified knowledge to make it easy for them to later on control and replace human beings. Furthermore, they’ve chosen a few nationalities as the vanguards of their future, total control of humankind. Japan is the vanguard that drives technology.

The United States is the vanguard in breaking away from all ancient cultures o n earth. The cultures of even the most ancient and closed-off nations haven’t been able to escape. The whole world is being impacted by America’s modern culture. England was the vanguard in the manufacture of machinery during the early stages , and Spain was the vanguard for mixing the human races. The way alien beings get human beings to shake free of the gods is to mix the races, causing human beings to become rootless people, just like the plant hybrids people make nowadays. South Americans, Central Americans, Mexicans and some people in South East Asia— all of these races have been mixed. None of this can evade the gods’ eyes. Alien beings have made rather extensive preparations for overtaking human beings.

Everyone who know s how to operate a computer ha s been registered. Of course, our students don’t have this problem. Once you obtain the Fa, I clean up that layer of your body that’s been occupied by them. They have formed a layer of their bod y within the human bod y. It’s incredibly frightening! Everything people learn from elementary school right up through college is the science they brought , and everything that human beings use nowadays is the product of this omnipresent science. Why do the inspirations people get make computers and technology develop with such tremendous speed? It’s done by that layer of the body that alien beings formed so as to control the human race. It’s exactly because that system of their technology and science that has formed in the human body is making people’s minds do so.

Today it’s incredible how develop ed computers are. But it is not a human technology. Man will be replaced by alien beings if it continues like this for long. But think about it, everyone: Alien beings are, after all, beings within the Three Realms, where ordinary humans are. There are other reason s why they dare to do this sort of thing. It has happened because the Fa of the universe has deviated and gods no longer look after things.

So it has to do with high-level beings as well. If this situation is to be turned around, it has to begin from high levels. That’s because they have this idea that human beings are no longer any good, their morality has degenerated, and everything is perverted. So they think it’s all right to just replace them , given that they are going to be eliminated all the same. They have to pay for all of the bad things they’ve done, for sure. The principles of this universe are absolutely reasonable toward any life.

So they have to answer for everything they’ve done. As for how their lives will eventually be dealt with, alien beings definitely won’t exist in the future. If there are truly good ones among the alien beings, then their lives can reincarnate as other lives. Bad lives will be eliminated. So every thing that every being does positions himself for the future . And that includes all human beings. Whatever a human being does positions him.

That’s the situation as far as alien beings go. They are being swept out up there, and they found out about the cleaning, so they scurried over here, and in particularly large numbers in recent years.

As of right now, most of the alien beings who have come here did so fleeing for their lives. They knew that in the end it would be hard for them to escape, so some alien beings have married Earth dwellers. But it’s not that they marry legitimately, because no one would marry them. They catch a village woman to leav e behind their offsprin g. And there are those who are hiding among ordinary people. They can’t stay under cover no matter how they hide. Immense gong is coming up from the microscopic level.

Whether it be steel, iron, wood, the human body, water, rocks, air, plants, animals, substances, etc., from the microscopic level of everything gong is coming up toward the surface. Tell me, where could they escape to? The gong is omnipresent and rushing up to the surface . So they’ve seen that there is no way to dodge it or to hide from it. How do they exist? The y aren’t actually possessing spirits. But some of them have assumed man’s appearance and walk the streets . You have no idea who they are.

Some have hidden and don’t come out. But the number is now small, very small. In the past they could hide , and their flying saucers could fly up and go to another dimension. But the other dimensions have all been cleaned up. Immense gong is rushing here and they can no longer hide. They can only hide in a cave or at the bottom of the sea in this dimension. Even so, they can’t stay concealed. Anyway, that’s the problem they face . All lives are position ing themselves in this affair. You should know that although alien beings brought their science to human beings to achieve their goals, gods are in charge of everything and are in turn using them.”

Quote:

“Having seen many movies, having read many imaginative stories, and having been influenced by a lot of things in society, people have developed a warped mindset that indulges in fantasy. You asked how to communicate with intelligent beings. Let me tell you all that an ordinary person can’t do that sort of thing, and he lacks the ability. If you could indeed communicate with intelligent beings but weren’t a cultivator yourself and were without energy, you would be in danger. You might lose your life any moment. Besides, you would see gruesome spirits but no high-level beings, for your level would be too low and limited to only that of humans. So it would be a terrifying situation. It’s even more terrifying if you want to communicate with living beings beyond Earth.

Lives beyond Earth are just lives on other planets within this physical dimension that our human eyes can perceive. Yet those lives don’t regard people as human beings. They think people are beasts, a kind of animal. They slaughter people at will and experiment on you at will. They kidnap people to their planets, lock them in cages, and put them on display as animals. Many of Earth’s people who have gone missing were taken by them. I can also tell you that today’s human science was created by them. Why have those aliens created for humans something like the current science? It’s because what they have on their planet is akin to it.

They want to bring it to this planet and eventually replace humans. They found that the human body is really perfect, flawless. So they covet the human body and want to eventually replace humans. They have added their things into one layer of human beings’ molecular cells. That’s already been done now and it has formed on a large scale. So for me to save you today, I not only have to remove all the attachments and karma that you need to eliminate, but I also have to clean up this stuff for you. The road humankind is traveling down is dreadful. Computers would have commanded people one day. Ongoing developments have conformed to this trajectory. Humans were to become the slaves of computers and machinery, and eventually be replaced by aliens.

Why have computers developed so quickly, and why has the human brain suddenly become so “sharp”? All of this has been carried out by aliens controlling the human mind. Aliens have registered everyone who knows how to operate a computer.For real. As to our students, I’ve cleaned all of that up for them, so that they won’t be interfered with by aliens when they use computers. Why are there aliens? Some aliens originate from their planets. Why do some aliens always come to Earth? It’s because they were once humans on Earth. But it wasn’t the Earth of our time. It was the previous Earth that existed at the same location as this Earth. Earth has been replaced many times.

Each time it was replaced, there was a portion of lives—living beings created by gods with different appearances, some of whom were similar to today’s humans, some of whom had different forms ¾who were relatively good at the time and were thus preserved. They weren’t destroyed, yet they weren’t allowed to enter the period of human development on the next Earth, either. So they were sent to another planet. That’s how it was done every time. Also, it has left a record of this universe, for they were humans on Earth in different time periods. It serves that purpose. But due to a slackening in overseeing them, they have developed, and they have created all kinds of scientific methods according to their schemes; some are like the kind on our earth, some assume other forms, and there are a variety of modes of development. Of course, they don’t use the term “science.”

The names they use belong to their languages and concepts. These things have deteriorated further and further. And with the deviation of the cosmos’ Great Fa, the aliens have become worse and worse too. That’s why all aliens are in the process of being completely eliminated. They are being eliminated throughout the entire universe. At present, those up there have been eliminated. What’s left are only those who have escaped to Earth, who are mingling among people or who have attached to human bodies. And there are other types too.”

Quote:

“As you know, modern science was brought to mankind by aliens. They came when the Industrial Revolution began in theWest. They started with mathematics and chemistry—started from the shallow, simple knowledge of the earliest days—and penetrated on through to modern machinery, and eventually they developed up to today’s computers. As development continues further their ultimate goal will be to replace human beings.

How is the replacement to take place? As I mentioned, in the body of today’s human beings almost everyone has a layer of the body that was created by aliens.Why do I say that? It’s because all of the science that they instilled in you has created a warped human mindset in your mind. There have never been humans like this in any of mankind’s previous civilizations. When the mind is like that, so is the body. As you know, every cell in your body is you, and your brain is connected to the brain in every cell. In that case, the thought processes inside the countless cells in your body are all the thoughts of warped human beings, and the entire body has become like that. This ties into why gods no longer regard man as human. When mankind is no longer human, what is the point of gods’ saving it?

You know that when a person dies, he doesn’t really die. The shell of the layer of the largest molecular particles sloughs off, whereas the part of the body composed of microcosmic particles below molecules hasn’t died. It is separated, as if a person takes off a piece of clothing. It isn’t really dead. Yet the person in this dimension has vanished, since the body needs to be cremated or buried and it will eventually decompose and dissolve. It has departed from this dimension; that is, this layer of particles has disappeared.

Then, as to the alien culture that I was just talking about, it is precisely using man’s own thinking to create the bodily layer that it needs, and it is doing so without man being aware of it. How will they ultimately replace human beings, then? You know that they still have to find a way to replace the shell of the outermost surface of human beings. This is the method of “cloning” that man now wants to use. Gods look after people, and when they don’t look after someone, they won’t instill the elements of life into that person.

This is to say, the reason you are alive in this world is not that you have this flesh body, nor is it because your mother gave you this body that you are alive. It is because you have your main spirit (yuanshen) and the existence of all of your other spirits (shen) that you can live. Why doesn’t a person keep living after he dies and the body is laid down there, since it’s the same body after all? It’s because all of his main spirits have left. That is, if a person isn’t given a spirit and isn’t allowed to reincarnate at the time of birth, he will still be dead after he is born. So what will happen? Aliens will enter.

This is the ultimate means that aliens will use to replace man— that is, cloning humans. Man is being used by aliens to destroy himself, yet he is not aware of it and is still protecting this science, destroying the human race. If humans are cloned en masse in the future, those beings will all be aliens that have reincarnated in human bodies, and there will be no more human race.”

Quote:

I’ve told you before that because of alien science and technology, one layer of the human body, one of the human body’s layers of particles, has been placed fully under the control of aliens. It consists entirely of alien planets’ elements, including numbers, mechanical structures, electronic components, and so on. It consists of that stuff. And those things are continually creating a warped effect. The large-scale modern industries brought about by science have impacted many low-level dimensions in the cosmos. In my Fa-rectification I’ve found that quite a large layer of the cosmos has been contaminated by those things. And those warped things have had a considerably large resisting effect in the Fa-rectification.
07-24-2015, 12:52 PM #2
Wicked Oblivion Member
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Over one hundred billion people have lived and died upon this planet earth...

Some of these people imaged below look similar and some of these people look very much alike and some of these people look exactly the same and yet i know some things are for sure...

Throughout the past photography was non existent and only wealthy people could afford to have their portraits painted and as time goes by our relatively recent invention of cameras will be able to open our eyes and minds more and more revealing amazing revelations of how our souls are reborn again and again and maybe forever...

I clearly remember experiencing several profoundly vivid dreams and nightmares subconsciously reminiscing about what could only have been past lives i lived and fascination would be discovering how people died because our present trauma may be feelings within locations as previous inflictions we suffered from within another place in time as well as our birth marks possibly meaning the same things and yet here and now i have no birth mark anywhere to be seen upon my body...

For one example realize how the same earthly grounds have been fought upon and died for again and again by unknown millions perhaps billions of people across the millennia i believe that human history repeats itself over and over and the souls of you and i are reborn twelve times beneath the various zodiac constellations once for each star sign one life to live through and die during alternating incarnations six as male and six as female and i am now alive as pisces the final astrological birth and when i die this time i know my forever invincible soul will not be returning to this material realm...

Personality Characteristics Of Zodiac Signs > http://www.buzzle.com/articles/personali...odiac.html



İmage
07-24-2015, 12:54 PM #3
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Flying saucers are time machines, built by radioactively mutated people from the distant future earth that we call the greys and some of those craft may be piloted and driven by those beings and some of those craft may be flown remotely controlled and some of those craft may be robotically flying themselves and they are here to abduct animals and humans to obtain clean and pure dna that they extract from us during our current time period and take back with them into their present time our future and thus explaining alien visitations and interventions as well as the entire human abduction and experimentation by ultra advanced aliens scenario...

Notice the never mentioned swirling clouds of dust being whirled around beneath this flying saucer time machine...

İmage

Amazingly this flying saucer time machine appears to be morphing its shape while entering and leaving our reality...

İmage

Stunning photograph of a daylight disc flying saucer time machine flown by mutated humans from future earth...

İmage
07-24-2015, 02:27 PM #4
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Thank you for posting that, Phanes. That actually agrees with many of the thoughts I have had on the matter. Does he discuss the gods in any of his writings or lectures?

I am not your rolling wheels, I am the highway
I am not your carpet ride I am the sky
I am not your blowing wind, I am the lightning
I am not your autumn moon, I am the night
The night
07-24-2015, 02:47 PM #5
Accidental Stoner Member
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hmm.gif

Cool story, bro'.

But the way I see it, technological innovativity must accelerate.
It is a simple law of nature.
No aliens or gods needed.
You use this:
İmage
to help conceive of this:
İmage
to facilitate the development of this:
İmage

if ya catch my drift.

Human(oid)s were never stupid.
To the point where I intuit that any species advanced enough
to build "interdimensional spacecraft" would looong ago have
figured out the fact that if you're not happy, why, then you must
be blue - and forgotten about silly things like conquest or power
over others at all.

I remain deeply skeptic 13.gif

I can't display the maths, but I suspect the universe works in an
entirely different manner. Maybe I'll tell those Chinese dudes
some time when I feel like it.

chuckle.gif
07-25-2015, 03:10 AM #6
SpiritMasonChazz Member
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Buddha's name be praised Buddhist are more into mind spirit & soul. Cleansing ones self to be free from pain & suffering. Once you are achieving this you will see there is much more than meets the eye. Buddha like to keep it simple even Buddha wanted us to be independent free thinkers and not to worship him kings or aliens. Pay more attention to ones life path and balance of zen over the ETs and Demon influenced souls. Buddha & Christ can help if you call upon there name in forgiveness.
07-25-2015, 03:21 AM #7
SpiritMasonChazz Member
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And Yes this knowledge was wiped out in Tibet by China red army of the 50s till about the 70s. Leaving many monks and nuns at 3% left of the beauty society they had even merika bombed Cambodian Buddhist and temples And no I'm not Asian.
07-25-2015, 07:35 AM #8
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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We certainly are disrupting the flow of organic nature and it would stand to reason lower and even higher dimensions too.
07-25-2015, 03:10 PM #9
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(07-24-2015, 02:47 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  hmm.gif

Cool story, bro'.

But the way I see it, technological innovativity must accelerate.
It is a simple law of nature.
No aliens or gods needed.
You use this:
İmage
to help conceive of this:
İmage
to facilitate the development of this:
İmage

if ya catch my drift.

Human(oid)s were never stupid.
To the point where I intuit that any species advanced enough
to build "interdimensional spacecraft" would looong ago have
figured out the fact that if you're not happy, why, then you must
be blue - and forgotten about silly things like conquest or power
over others at all.

I remain deeply skeptic 13.gif

I can't display the maths, but I suspect the universe works in an
entirely different manner. Maybe I'll tell those Chinese dudes
some time when I feel like it.

chuckle.gif
Quote: "During that accursed era, a factor in addition to human depravity had entered history."

"The factor that distinguished our tyranny from all historical precedents, and a factor that would inevitably increase in importance in the future."

"As the top representative of a technocracy which had without compunction used all its know-how in an assault on humanity."

"I tried not only to confess, but also to understand what had happened. In my final speech I said."

"Hitler's dictatorship was the first dictatorship of an industrial state in the age of modern technology."

"A dictatorship which employed to perfection the instruments of technology to dominate its own people."

"By means of such instruments of technology as the radio and public-address systems, eighty million persons could be made subject to the will of one individual."

"Telephone, teletype, and radio made it possible to transmit the commands of the highest levels directly to the lowest organs where because of their high authority they were executed uncritically."

"Thus many offices and squads received their evil commands in this direct manner"

"The instruments of technology made it possible to maintain a close watch over all citizens and to keep criminal operations shrouded in a high degree of secrecy."

"To the outsider this state apparatus may look like the seemingly wild tangle of cables in a telephone exchange; but like such an exchange it could be directed by a single will."

"Dictatorships of the past needed assistants of high quality in the lower ranks of the leadership also-men who could think and act independently,"

"The authoritarian system in the age of technology can do without such men, the means of communication alone enable it to mechanize the work of the lower leadership."

"Thus the type of uncritical receiver of orders is created, the critical events of those years were not only an outgrowth of Hitler's personality."

"The extent of the crimes was also due to the fact that Hitler was the first to be able to employ the implements of technology to multiply crime."

"I thought of the consequences that unrestricted rule together with the power of technology-making use of it but also driven by it-might have in the future."

"This war, I continued, had ended with remote-controlled rockets, aircraft flying at the speed of sound, atom bombs, and a prospect of chemical warfare."

"In five to ten years it would be possible for an atomic rocket, perhaps serviced by ten men, to annihilate a million human beings in the center of New York within seconds."

"It would be possible to spread plagues and destroy harvests, the more technological the world becomes, the greater is the danger"

"As the former minister in charge of a highly developed armaments economy it is my last duty to state: A new great war will end with the destruction of human culture and civilization."

"There is nothing to stop unleashed technology and science from completing its work of destroying man which it has so terribly begun in this war."

"This nightmare shared by many people," I said, "that some day the nations of the world may be dominated by technology- that nightmare was very nearly made a reality under Hitler's authoritarian system."

"Every country in the world today faces the danger of being terrorized by technology; but in a modern dictatorship this seems to me to be unavoidable."

"Therefore, the more technological the world becomes, the more essential will be the demand for individual freedom and self-awareness of the individual human being as a counterpoise to technology."

"The catastrophe of this war," I wrote in my cell in 1947, "has proved the sensitivity of the system of modern civilization evolved in the course of centuries."

"Now we know that we do not live in an earthquake-proof structure. The build up of negative impulses, each reinforcing the other, can inexorably shake to pieces the complicated apparatus of the modern world."

"There is no halting this process by will alone. The danger is that the automatism of progress will depersonalize man further and withdraw more and more of his self-responsibility."

"Dazzled by the possibilities of technology, I devoted crucial years of my life to serving it. But in the end my feelings about it are highly skeptical."

Albert Speer - "Inside the Third Reich." > http://www.selectsmart.com/DISCUSS/read....783,959783
07-26-2015, 11:34 AM #10
Phanes Incognito Anonymous
 
(07-24-2015, 02:47 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  hmm.gif

Cool story, bro'.

But the way I see it, technological innovativity must accelerate.
It is a simple law of nature.
No aliens or gods needed.
You use this:
İmage
to help conceive of this:
İmage
to facilitate the development of this:
İmage

if ya catch my drift.

Human(oid)s were never stupid.
To the point where I intuit that any species advanced enough
to build "interdimensional spacecraft" would looong ago have
figured out the fact that if you're not happy, why, then you must
be blue - and forgotten about silly things like conquest or power
over others at all.

I remain deeply skeptic 13.gif

I can't display the maths, but I suspect the universe works in an
entirely different manner. Maybe I'll tell those Chinese dudes
some time when I feel like it.

chuckle.gif

Accidental stoner I feel there are many different paths to the Truth. Our current scientific paradigm is just one of many ways to explore the universe and uncover it's Truth's, there are many other ways that are possible.

The ancient awakened one's found that the human mind is the most powerful instrument in existence to understand life, nature and the universe. They trained their minds in certain Cultivation systems which gave them access to abilities, wisdom and insights that no man made scientific machine can attain.

This is an interesting talk Teacher Li Hongzhi gave that talks about this very issue, I feel you would find it quite interesting:

http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/zfl2.htm#8


(07-24-2015, 02:27 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  Thank you for posting that, Phanes. That actually agrees with many of the thoughts I have had on the matter. Does he discuss the gods in any of his writings or lectures?

Glad you found it of interest Kreeper. Yes he does discuss them in many of his lectures. Here is a handful of excerpts on the topic of Gods that you might find interesting:


Excerpt 1:

“The Buddhas’ attire that we usually see is a yellow kasaya. As for Gods with a Caucasian image, no matter which world they’re in, they usually wrap themselves in a large white kasaya. Buddhas wrap themselves in a large yellow kasaya, and Gods in the image of blacks wrap themselves in a large red kasaya. Of course, there are manifestations of many more varieties and at even higher levels. There are some who don’t wear anything, there are others who wear all kinds of clothes and adornments that are quite primitive… there are all kinds of Gods. Daos of course don ancient Chinese dress—those are the common Daos. The clothes worn by the Great Daos at very high levels are actually also very diverse.

In the past there was this phenomenon with cultivators: No matter when, or during which dynasty you succeeded in cultivation, what you wore when you reached Consummation would become your clothes afterwards. That was usually the case. Of course, for Buddhas it was different—when someone attained Buddhahood he would definitely assume the image of a Buddha, and would wear a Buddha’s clothing. As for those who cultivated into other types of Gods, normally whatever he wore when he succeeded in cultivation would be the clothes he would wear afterwards.”


Excerpt 2

“Why are humans what they are? Why are they said to be so deficient? For one thing, they have little wisdom. Additionally, they have to accomplish things by using their hands and feet, through physical labor and hard work. A god, by contrast, doesn’t need to move his hands or feet to once in a while get things done. That god can do it with his mind—whatever he thinks of will come true. It’s because a god’s gong exists in particles ranging from the extremely microscopic to the very macroscopic, and every one of those particles carries that god’s image. His gong contains particles of all sizes.

Whenever that god wants to form an object, he will create it simultaneously from the most microscopic level to all other levels, as well as to the surface level. As that god thinks, his gong brings the object, which was nonexistent, into being, and in a very fast time-field. This is why a Buddha has such great abilities and a God is so powerful. Human beings, on the other hand, are the most deficient. They have to labor with their own physical bodies to accomplish anything. To construct a building, so many people need to go up and down, just like hundreds of molecules that are busy working here and there, back and forth.

This is the clumsiest method. What’s more, when a Buddha wants to do something—unlike human beings who do things in this human time—it’s done in the dimension of the fastest time. So it can be accomplished instantly in this dimension; in the human field of time, it seems to be accomplished by just a thought. The higher one’s cultivation level, the more powerful one is and the more time-fields one can command.”


Excerpt 3

“I’ve told you that in different dimensions it’s not that all beings are like the Buddhas and Gods everywhere in the heavens—beings differ quite substantially. There are also places like that of human beings, but few. Yet there are particularly more places like those of alien beings. They need to fly and need to use flying devices.

Beings are extremely complex. There are worlds of all kinds and there’s great diversity in the cosmos. Now we only have white, yellow, and black races of humans on earth; over there, there are also green and blue ones, and even multi-colored ones. There are diverse ones of every sort, unlike anything you’ve imagined.”
07-28-2015, 06:50 PM #11
Phanes Incognito Anonymous
 
Some more lecture excerpts about Gods that I have found:

Excerpt 1:

“Microscopic matter can form substances of different appearances, due to the particles’ different arrangement sequences. Of course, in the past many people performed magic, turning water into ice, or one thing into another. It sounds inconceivable, but it’s really not at all inconceivable. When you’re able to change the molecular arrangement sequences of something, it will become something else. So how do you change the appearance of something? Of course, the appearance is even easier to change, and once the appearance changes it becomes something else. The higher the level of a Buddha, a Dao, or a God, the more of this power he has. As you know, humans are very deficient.

How deficient? If humans want to accomplish something or do something, they need to use their hands and feet—they need to use physical labor to get it done. But Buddhas don’t. Buddhas only need to think—the thought alone is enough, because Buddhas have a lot of divine powers, many supernormal abilities, and they also have their own powerful gong. Each microscopic particle of that gong is in the Buddhas’ own image, and those microscopic particles are made up of more microscopic particles, all of which are in their image. Think about it, their gong goes out the moment their thought emerges. Starting from the extremely microscopic level, it changes the structures of particles of different levels.

And the time they use is that of the fastest dimension, so it’s done instantly. Buddhas do things very quickly, as they aren’t restrained by this dimension and time of ours. They instantly change an object from its very foundation into something else. This is how Buddha Fa’s divine power takes effect. Why does the object change the moment a Buddha thinks? When a Buddha thinks, both the countless particles and immeasurable wisdom of his gong are simultaneously making changes at every level, the overall [gong] is also making changes for everything he wants to do, and the larger grains of his gong are also changing the surface of the object. From an object’s most basic particles to its surface particles, his gong is simultaneously changing it from the microscopic to the surface.

He then makes that thing happen in just an instant—he gets it done instantly. Nothing turns into something, as he’s able to combine molecules and particles in the air into an object you can see—this is turning nothing into something. Why is Buddha Fa’s divine power so mighty? Humankind’s science and technology could never reach this point. The power of Buddha Fa cannot be achieved by humankind through scientific and technological means, because it’s impossible for humans to elevate morality in stride with advances in science and technology—it’s impossible.

In addition, in developing this science and technology, humans always have very strong attachments to accomplishing something, which violates the principles of the Fa of the cosmos. So it’s impossible for their heart nature to reach that high. Moreover, humans have various emotions and desires, and all kinds of attachments: the competitive urge, jealousy, elation, greediness, etc. If science and technology could really become that advanced, star wars would break out in the universe—there could really be cosmic wars. But Buddhas, Daos, and Gods won’t permit it—they absolutely cannot allow humans to bring turmoil to the cosmos, so Gods are restraining humankind. Humankind’s science and technology aren’t allowed to reach a level that high without an improvement in morality—it’s absolutely impossible.”


Excerpt 2:

“As I just stated, many people come from remote places. Think about it, then: The differences among them and in their characteristics are quite substantial. As a long period of time passes and living beings continually become no longer as good (in the language of the heavens, there is nothing like “good” or “bad”; the words or concept they often use is that something “becomes heavy”), they begin to sink and deposit.

When they’re no longer so pure, light and floating, they deposit. In fact, the substance has varied; that is, it’s already impure. The course of its continual deposit was this type of process. Yet it’s an extremely slow process, and people don’t perceive any changes in themselves; neither do gods feel that they have themselves undergone changes. This is because the time it takes is extremely long—it can’t be calculated with human time.

In terms of time, different dimensions have different times. Time is incredibly complex. It’s almost like the gears of different sizes inside a clock, but the actual complexity is more than a billion-fold or trillion-fold that. It can’t be generalized with any human concept. It has its own revolution and its own time. Those substances have deposited, bringing these variations with them. Upon reaching the human level, people perceive the human mind to be complicated. In fact, I can tell you that the human mind is indeed very complicated because it went through a much-extended period of time before arriving here.

During that much-extended period of time, your life carried with it things from every level. Scientists today know that seventy percent of the human brain goes unutilized. That is, human intelligence is reduced. If there were no restraints on human intelligence so that humans could have as much wisdom as gods, it would be terrible for those complicated thoughts of yours to exist in human society. It would be hard to say what changes might take place in human society. So speaking of this matter, I want to tell you in passing that the current development of humankind is not a good thing. There’s no limit to human greed.

It’s really a bad thing when a person achieves a high level and still has greed, hoping to go even higher. Why is it? If people were to go beyond the state of human beings or beyond what can be known by human beings, it would be extremely dangerous for humankind. The reason human intelligence is restricted is that humans are forbidden to know that much or have that much wisdom.

Since I’ve come as far as this, I might as well make a few more remarks. Consider the following: If every one of you really pays attention to your own thoughts, you will find that they change instantly. Many thoughts can crop up within a second, and you have no idea where they come from. Some thoughts are quite bizarre—they are those various notions from your many previous lives. They will come forth when you run into a problem. Every person acquires notions postnatally that are selfish and protective of his or her own interests, and this is why humans are becoming more and more immoral.

It’s for this reason that human beings can only fall downward instead of rising to higher levels. The Enlightened Beings, Buddhas and Gods, come to save people since they see these things. Of course, numerous other complicated factors are involved as well. Gods will not save just anyone—all of them look only to save their own people.”
07-28-2015, 07:32 PM #12
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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Hey Phanes
check it out ,,,

I ride on Alien Craft

many times over the past 60 years

Let's see your cocksucking Grand Wazoo beat that .

goddamned ğck tard mother fuckers and they're self proclaimed
grand master insights of purity ,,,

that descendant of Chimps , writes a book ,,, full of his mental disease ,,,

and suddenly he's a Grand Master of some shït eating Bhudda ?

oh ?

yeah , I'll run right down and BUY his book ,,, he can have my money i spend on it ,,, he may need it to buy a laptop so he can save the ink wasted writing his
bullshit .

i hate to see Ink go to waste , not to mention the trees that the pages are
made of .
07-29-2015, 07:41 AM #13
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I Killed another gawd damned thread
08-01-2015, 03:50 AM #14
Secret Incognito Anonymous
 
(07-29-2015, 07:41 AM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  I Killed another gawd damned thread

Here is your chance. You can repay me later.
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08-18-2015, 07:25 AM #15
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
A few excerpts from Mr Li Hongzhi on other dimensions:

Excerpt 1

“What I just said was to tell you that living beings exist on every planet. Moreover, many are living beings whose appearances are similar to humans, only they don’t exist in this dimension because different particles form different dimensions. If you want to enter those dimensions, you can’t understand them with the concepts of today’s human science—this science is simply too shallow. For you to enter those worlds, you have to conform to the modes of being, forms of life, and ways of thinking in those worlds. Only then can you know them. You will discover upon entering one of those worlds that its particles are smaller than those of the human dimension, yet its dimension is extremely vast. We humans exist between these two types of particles, molecules and planets.

Air is composed of molecules, isn’t it? But you can’t see it. Flowers, grass, trees, iron, steel, the clothes you wear, your flesh body, your hair, everything you use, and everything around you, all of these are composed of molecules. Soil is made up of molecules too. We humans call it “soil.” But actually, gods think of everything in the human dimension as composed of soil. Gods regard molecules themselves as soil.

Someone asked me about the statement by Yahweh, the Lord of Western people, that he used soil to create man. In fact, everything in this dimension, including air, is soil in their view, only we humans can’t understand it. You’re simply covered with soil, surrounded by soil. Humans are crawling around in mounds of soil. Everything is composed of soil, and humans are in this soil. I think that after I’ve explained it like this, it shouldn’t be difficult to understand the story of man being created with clay as told by the Lord of Western people.

If you want to know the way living beings exist in other dimensions, you will have to conform to the ways of existence in the dimensions of the planes of smaller particles. You can’t understand it by using today’s scientific theories; you have to throw out the concepts of modern science before you can understand. Once you understand it, you will discover that it isn’t the concept of time and space held by humans.”


Excerpt 2

“I’ll address one other subject for you, something students can’t explain clearly in cultivation, namely, the “heavens” (tian). According to contemporary science, spaceships have traveled to outer space and flown to many other planets, but they haven’t seen any human beings or paradises of gods, nor were there the scenes of different heavens within the Three Realms that people have talked about. So modern people use this logic to reject religion, deny legends from the past, and negate the most essential nature of human beings.

Actually, the “heavens” that gods refer to isn’t at all the same concept as the heavens human beings see. I often say that molecules compose everything in this material dimension of human beings, while microcosmic matter is the reason for the composition of molecules, and layers of even more-microcosmic matter are the fundamental reasons for the composition of layers of particles at different levels. Gods are in extremely microcosmic worlds, which are nonetheless extremely vast worlds, broad spaces.

The microcosmic worlds and the dimensions formed in the microcosm that I have told you about in each lecture are where gods reside. Think about it: Gods… I mentioned the other day that things in the human dimension, such as air, matter, soil, rocks, iron and steel—everything in this dimension, including your body—are composed of molecules. Yet molecules are the coarsest, most superficial, and filthiest matter in the universe. These molecules—actually, in the eyes of gods, all molecules—are seen as dirt and considered mud in the universe, and this is the understanding merely at the level of Tathagata. That’s why what was said in the past about Yahweh and N ü Wa using mud to create man was true.

It is because even your flesh is made of molecules, and in the eyes of gods, it’s mud, it’s dirt, and something that is most coarse. Then think about it, everyone: No matter how far spaceships may travel, have they flown beyond the realm of molecules? Say an airplane flies in the sky and you travel from Asia to America. You feel like you have flown rather high and quite far; the fact is, you are merely moving inside mounds of molecules and you are all moving on the ground—this isn’t the heavens in the least.

In the eyes of gods, it is only a matter of different long or short distances within substances of the same level. The dimensions composed of microcosmic worlds are the real heavens that gods refer to. The more refined and microcosmic a substance is, the more quintessential and refined the surface it composes.

Energy exists in all matter, including molecules. It is only because the human body andeverything around you is composed of molecules—even the machines you use to measure that energy are also composed of molecules—that you can’t detect the energy of molecules. The more microcosmic the matter is, the more energy it has and the stronger its radioactive power is—the more microcosmic, the more powerful.

That is why gods’ energy and forms of existence are like that. So let me word it a bit more clearly for you: People on Earth see that the Moon, the Sun, Venus, Mars, as well as the MilkyWay, outer space, the remote cosmic bodies, and so on, are all in the heavens. But if you look at Earth from Mars, wouldn’t you say that it too is in the heavens? It’s in the heavens as well. This is an understanding that breaks through ordinary people’s ways of thinking.

But, understood at a deeper level—think about it—what are the heavens? Once you enter a microcosmic dimension, that is the heavens. Let me give the simplest example and tell you a story. In the past, there was a cultivator of the Dao walking on the street while drinking. He suddenly saw someone. This person was just who he had been looking for—someone who could cultivate the Dao. So he wanted to save this person and take him as his disciple. He asked this person, “Do you want to follow me to cultivate the Dao?” This person’s enlightenment quality and inborn quality were very good, and he said, “I do.” “Do you dare to follow me?” the cultivator asked. The person replied, “Yes, I do!” “Do you dare to follow me wherever I go?” he then asked. “Yes,” was the reply.

The cultivator then said, “Okay. Now follow me!” Saying that, he put his palm-sized wine gourd on the ground, opened the lid, and jumped into the gourd. The person saw that his master had jumped in, so he imitated his master and likewise jumped into the gourd. The bystanders all leaned over and looked inside the gourd. “Wow!” they exclaimed.

There was a vast world inside the gourd, really vast. Viewed with human thinking, how could it be possible for a person so big to jump into such a small wine gourd? That’s because when you want to enter that dimension, everything of your body has to conform to the state of that dimension before you can enter. When you travel through the gaps between different dimensions, your body inevitably enters those states of being.

This is because the more microcosmic particles of matter are, the more vast and broad the planes are at their levels. At the levels of microcosmic particles, the way the gourd manifests is different from the form that human beings see; all particles are connected. What appears to be large or small to human beings is only a form of manifestation in the space-time formed by the same particles. That is to say, the surface of the gourd is formed by molecules, and that’s the shape you see, but the gourd in the microcosm isn’t like this. It is connected to the universe at that realm.

This is something that man cannot understand and that can’t be understood by human conceptions. So, having mentioned a person going up to the heavens, I can say that if you suddenly enter a stone, isn’t that going up to the heavens? It won’t do if you enter the surface formed by the stone substance. You enter the realms of the microcosmic particles that form its molecular particles— aren’t you going to the heavens? Aren’t you in the heavens if you shrink into the microcosmic levels of your body? When you enter the microcosmic particles of the surface particles of dimensions at any level—in other words, enter the layer of particles smaller than that one—you are already in the heavens.

It’s just that the levels of heavens are different, and the microcosmic degree is different. After you enter the microcosm, although you see that you enter the stone, enter your body, or enter a certain thing, you have actually entered the broad universe connected to that dimension. In other words, this isn’t the human way of thinking. I often say that what people refer to as east, west, south, or north, up, down, in, or out, doesn’t exist in the universe, and it’s different from human thinking and concepts. After I explain it like this you will understand, “Oh, it’s not at all like it is when you use human thinking to contemplate it.”

The present-day science is very shallow. It can’t detect or know the real heavens because it crawls within only the current material dimension, and this has limited it. And the science imposed upon man by aliens is thus confined to this. Aliens are living beings in this dimension as well, and they are similarly incapable of knowing the truth of the universe.

Man does not believe in gods, and this is no simple problem. It is man destroying human morality. When man believes in karmic retribution, believes that doing good deeds is rewarded and doing bad deeds meets with retribution, and that whatever man does is watched by gods, man then won’t dare to do evil things. Man knows that doing good deeds will accumulate virtue (de) and be rewarded with happiness, which is absolutely true. But man no longer believes these things; science nowadays doesn’t believe in them, and it considers them superstition. This is exactly swinging the club of science to strike at people’s righteous thinking. Isn’t this striking at the most essential nature of human beings?

When people’s morality, upright beliefs, and righteous thinking are destroyed to the point of nonexistence, people will recklessly do whatever they want to and will resort to any means to achieve their goals. This is one of the fundamental reasons for the deterioration of human society. People in Western society appear to believe in God, but they don’t really believe in God: What they truly believe in is science. Gods are not like what they have imagined, that is, beings with human emotions. Just now I corrected a key concept for you, namely, how “heavens” are to be understood. What gods and human beings mean when they each speak of “heavens” are two different things.

During the course of cultivation, many people sometimes see that they seem to have entered their own bodies. Their bodies are like a vast sky, they move in the sky and walk among the cosmic bodies, and doors are opened one after another as they dash forward. When they take a closer look or expand their minds one step further to take a look, they realize, “Oh, it’s the energy channels in my body being opened.” Let’s think about it. When you are cultivating, your bodies are being changed from the utmost microcosm on up.

So what is the utmost microcosm? Aren’t your other bodies precisely in the heavens and in those realms? It is only that you the person have fallen into the midst of ordinary people, and along with that, you have fallen to where ordinary people are; even the part that’s the most microcosmic has dropped to the level of ordinary people. However, if you can return through cultivation, everything will be rectified for you, so you will go through that experience. Many cultivators in history have seen those phenomena [that I just described], but they weren’t able to describe it. Sometimes those in the Buddhist religion say that Buddha is in one’s mind, while people in the Dao school say that the human body is a small universe, and so on, and this has to do with their having seen such things.”



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