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Canadian Federal Leaders Debate
08-06-2015, 06:44 PM #1
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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I hope one leader stands out for me during tonight's debate because, as usual, over many decades, I am never impressed with any candidate and I take their plans/policies with a grain of salt. So, I either end up not voting, or voting for the underdog, just for the hope of a complete change/turnaround (which never happens). sad2.gif

I hope some complex, difficult questions are thrown out there for all the candidates to answer.






Quote:The Toronto debate is to air on the City-TV network, Omni stations and CPAC, as well as a chain of AM radio stations. It is to be streamed live across various Rogers-owned websites, on Facebook and YouTube

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/poli...e25857341/

Quote:Format: The questions have been prepared by Wells and the Maclean’s team of journalists and will cover at least three areas:
•The economy, energy and the environment
•The health of Canada’s democratic institutions
•Foreign policy and security
08-06-2015, 06:48 PM #2
Accidental Stoner Member
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Multiculture and "racism" no issues over there?

I'm no expert on Canadian politricks. but the
Harper regime seems just as corrupt as most
others, from where I'm watching.

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08-06-2015, 06:53 PM #3
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Was reading Harper wants to get rid of the Senate. I'm a believer in checks and balances, and though admittedly, I know little about Canadian politics, this seems like a dangerous proposition.

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08-06-2015, 07:01 PM #4
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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We'll see if those subjects (such as accommodating Islamic religious practices) are put to them, which may fall under Security.


İmage

Quote:The Conservative Party launched an online petition asking supporters if they agree that "harmful and violent cultural practices found elsewhere in the world will not be tolerated in Canada."
08-06-2015, 07:04 PM #5
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(08-06-2015, 06:53 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Was reading Harper wants to get rid of the Senate. I'm a believer in checks and balances, and though admittedly, I know little about Canadian politics, this seems like a dangerous proposition.

Hmmm...maybe not so dangerous, considering they have equal power to the House of Commons in THEORY.

Quote:Legislative Powers of the Senate in Theory

In terms of its legislative powers, the Senate is theoretically equal to the House of Commons. Under Canada’s written Constitution, any piece of government legislation must be approved by both the House of Commons and the Senate (as well as the Canadian Monarch) for it to become official law. This provides the Senate with veto power over Parliamentary legislation, and allows it to reject, offer amendments, or delay any bills with which a majority of its members disagree.

There are some small qualifications. The Senate is not permitted to introduce bills that impose taxes or appropriate public funds. This power is reserved solely for the House of Commons, although the Senate may reject or amend ‘money bills’ that are introduced in and passed by the House. The Senate is also not permitted to delay constitutional amendments passed by the House of Commons for more than 180 days. This restriction on the power of the Senate was introduced in 1982 with the patriation of the Constitution, and allows the House to pass the constitutional amendment again, bypassing Senate approval after the 180-day period has expired.

Legislative Powers of the Senate in Practice

While the Senate is theoretically equal to the House of Commons, in practice the House is the dominant legislative body in Canada’s Parliament. This is due, in large part, to the so-called ‘undemocratic’ nature of the Senate. Whereas the House of Commons is made up of elected Members of Parliament that are democratically responsible to their constituents, the Senate consists of appointed Senators that are effectively responsible to no one. Over the years, this has led to the development of an unwritten constitutional practice that the Senate veto or delay legislation passed by the House of Commons only in rare and exceptional cases.
08-06-2015, 08:08 PM #6
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Quote:"The Senate consists of appointed Senators that are effectively responsible to no one."

Some countries have elected officials that are responsible to no one... less corporations. 13.gif

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08-06-2015, 08:25 PM #7
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(08-06-2015, 08:08 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
Quote:"The Senate consists of appointed Senators that are effectively responsible to no one."

Some countries have elected officials that are responsible to no one... less corporations. 13.gif

With questionable ability to use their theoretical power, so the Senate seems to be a useless body...money (tax) drain.
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08-07-2015, 07:00 AM #8
Nomadic wanderer Incognito Anonymous
 
not a big fan of politics...guess that makes me anarchist of sorts.

Personally if i was forced to...I would vote for the young new kid on the block because he endorses new ways of thinking such as pot smoking.

I prefer living in my own little piece of this gorgeous blue beauty called earth without having to deal with leaders of any kind.
08-07-2015, 07:12 PM #9
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Hey NW, you are a member of a growing trend called 'voter apathy'.

I would never vote for a leader just to legalize marijuana, my concerns are economy and environment, first and foremost...working with both together, not separately.
08-08-2015, 12:27 AM #10
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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İmage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_Canada

I may be joining the downward trend. sad2.gif
08-08-2015, 12:38 AM #11
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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Only taxpayers should be allowed to vote.
08-08-2015, 01:14 AM #12
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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That's quite a statement, Shadow. Who are the non-tax payers?
08-08-2015, 01:24 AM #13
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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Those who don't pay income tax but collect from those who do. If you have a dependent do you let him or her decide how you spend your income? Why or why not?
08-08-2015, 01:26 AM #14
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Not to worry Shadow, most of the young and poor have voter apathy. These groups are the non-voters.
08-08-2015, 01:31 AM #15
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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I had this grand idea to run for parliament, I'd be the 'long weekend party' campaigning on the platform of a 4 day work week. Open up 20% more jobs, and all work capable unemployed would be paying taxes instead of collecting welfare. lol.gif And of course with more people employed, taxes would drop.



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