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06-06-2015, 09:06 AM #1
SpiritMasonChazz Member
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I think we as individuals must make change our self. Changes will come but is it going to be the change you want probably not. There change is chump change doom & gloom individual change is what makes a difference. Hope in America has fallen in Gov trust Obama supporters now know He isnt there savior. It will soon be time to show what we are and how will we cope. Will you pull together to make a better change or be like them and keep taking till there is not enough to help each other. They want war becouse thats all they know is how to bully the masses from fear mongering. And take money for nothing we set back and watch this happen but I think soon we will not have that luxury.
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06-06-2015, 11:48 AM #2
failboat Incognito Anonymous
 
most people are never going to change due to a serious lack in introspection which is rooted in our modern society.
the only things that will affect your personality are environmental rewards and punishments and biological things like the birth of your first child puberty etc. - and of course huge long lasting events that leave an imprint on a whole generation like eg wars or something.
our modern society doesn't really encourage introspection due to anonymity and personal freedoms. everyone is free to do what he actually wants to as long as it doesn't harm someone. which in it's essence is a good thing - the maximization of pleasure. but if you leave introspection out you'll get a form of pure hedonism. most people would argue that religion or spirituality try to bring this introspection aspect into our lives. but seriously who wants to think about spiritual stuff while there is a nice movie to watch or some huge party going on?

actually if i think about it there has never been an era in which humanity went fully spiritual. the only things we have experienced so far historically are wars fear and oppression. hedonism is a modern thing that started not so many decades ago and nobody presented our ancestors with it - they actually had to fight for every single freedom as the ruling elite didn't want to lose control.
maybe those new age guys are kinda right when they say that our next step is going to be an age of spiritualism or introspection. but maybe we won't make it that far. our society hangs by a thread. once it breaks down people will be thrown back into fear mode and do what they did before since the dawn of mankind.
06-06-2015, 01:03 PM #3
White Ribbon call me
Posts:9,779 Threads:371 Joined:Apr 2013
(06-06-2015, 11:48 AM)failboat Wrote:  most people are never going to change due to a serious lack in introspection which is rooted in our modern society.
the only things that will affect your personality are environmental rewards and punishments and biological things like the birth of your first child puberty etc. - and of course huge long lasting events that leave an imprint on a whole generation like eg wars or something.
our modern society doesn't really encourage introspection due to anonymity and personal freedoms. everyone is free to do what he actually wants to as long as it doesn't harm someone. which in it's essence is a good thing - the maximization of pleasure. but if you leave introspection out you'll get a form of pure hedonism. most people would argue that religion or spirituality try to bring this introspection aspect into our lives. but seriously who wants to think about spiritual stuff while there is a nice movie to watch or some huge party going on?

actually if i think about it there has never been an era in which humanity went fully spiritual. the only things we have experienced so far historically are wars fear and oppression. hedonism is a modern thing that started not so many decades ago and nobody presented our ancestors with it - they actually had to fight for every single freedom as the ruling elite didn't want to lose control.
maybe those new age guys are kinda right when they say that our next step is going to be an age of spiritualism or introspection. but maybe we won't make it that far. our society hangs by a thread. once it breaks down people will be thrown back into fear mode and do what they did before since the dawn of mankind.

ffsi...

You would say that load of shite..

chuckle.gif

Before jesus and his gang of religious mo fo's, we had spiritualism in its purest form.. Indigenous tribes were all about spiritualism..
06-06-2015, 01:58 PM #4
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,601 Threads:1,469 Joined:Feb 2011
Quote:but seriously who wants to think about spiritual stuff while there is a nice movie to watch or some huge party going on?

ffsi, easily distracted by the shiny? 13.gif
06-06-2015, 02:25 PM #5
Accidental Stoner Member
Posts:8,812 Threads:70 Joined:Feb 2011
Well, I'm gonna try voluntary penal asceticism for a while.

chuckle.gif

No other way out of here 13.gif

Banzai! İmage

Now for today's bowl of...fish soup.
06-06-2015, 02:32 PM #6
US nli Incognito Anonymous
 
Change that makes a difference may require civil disobedience, so then, the boomers and zoomers may need to be called into action; retirees are more likely to have the time free to spend in jail

Quote:Mr. MacDonald is the founder of Fifty Over Fifty, a new group that hopes to recruit baby boomers to engage in civil disobedience to promote action on climate change. The name refers not only to their age range, but also to creating a cadre in each of the 50 states to support local protests and causes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/boomin....html?_r=0
06-06-2015, 02:34 PM #7
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,881 Threads:420 Joined:Jun 2012
(06-06-2015, 02:32 PM)US nli Wrote:  Change that makes a difference may require civil disobedience, so then, the boomers and zoomers may need to be called into action; retirees are more likely to have the time free to spend in jail

Quote:Mr. MacDonald is the founder of Fifty Over Fifty, a new group that hopes to recruit baby boomers to engage in civil disobedience to promote action on climate change. The name refers not only to their age range, but also to creating a cadre in each of the 50 states to support local protests and causes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/boomin....html?_r=0

http://fiftyoverfifty.org/why-civil-disobedience/
06-06-2015, 02:42 PM #8
Accidental Stoner Member
Posts:8,812 Threads:70 Joined:Feb 2011
Change is the normal state of climate, over time.
Sometimes very slow, sometimes apparently rather
swift.

The POO's need for a common enemy of all mankind
seems like a much more solid factor 13.gif

Very much controlled 'disobedience', would be the
verdict, when people march 'against climate change'.

How about protesting the fact that value symbols
represent nothing but debt back to the Central Bank..?

chuckle.gif
06-06-2015, 02:44 PM #9
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,601 Threads:1,469 Joined:Feb 2011
(06-06-2015, 02:42 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  The POO's need for a common enemy of all mankind
seems like a much more solid factor 13.gif

Very much controlled 'disobedience', would be the
verdict, when people march 'against climate change'.

yup.gif
06-06-2015, 03:03 PM #10
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,881 Threads:420 Joined:Jun 2012
More like protesting oil spills, pipelines, and lack of progressing into the future using alternative energy solutions, which do less damage to the environment.

The cost of economic gain:

http://www.earthporm.com/23-shocking-pho...em-become/
06-06-2015, 03:32 PM #11
Accidental Stoner Member
Posts:8,812 Threads:70 Joined:Feb 2011
Now that I can agree with.

Weird discrepancy between hi-tech environment
and stinky, noisy "modern" transports,
for instance.
06-06-2015, 04:12 PM #12
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:12,782 Threads:1,182 Joined:Feb 2011
(06-06-2015, 11:48 AM)failboat Wrote:  most people are never going to change due to a serious lack in introspection which is rooted in our modern society.

Exactly. Seems people haven't got the ability to think for themselves any more, or sustain a thought long enough to form their own opinions. They simply believe what they're told and actively resist contradiction.
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06-06-2015, 04:34 PM #13
failboat Incognito Anonymous
 
(06-06-2015, 01:58 PM)Octo Wrote:  
Quote:but seriously who wants to think about spiritual stuff while there is a nice movie to watch or some huge party going on?

ffsi, easily distracted by the shiny? 13.gif

yup.gif
failboat Show this Post
06-06-2015, 04:36 PM #14
failboat Incognito Anonymous
 
(06-06-2015, 01:03 PM)the white ribbon Wrote:  
(06-06-2015, 11:48 AM)failboat Wrote:  most people are never going to change due to a serious lack in introspection which is rooted in our modern society.
the only things that will affect your personality are environmental rewards and punishments and biological things like the birth of your first child puberty etc. - and of course huge long lasting events that leave an imprint on a whole generation like eg wars or something.
our modern society doesn't really encourage introspection due to anonymity and personal freedoms. everyone is free to do what he actually wants to as long as it doesn't harm someone. which in it's essence is a good thing - the maximization of pleasure. but if you leave introspection out you'll get a form of pure hedonism. most people would argue that religion or spirituality try to bring this introspection aspect into our lives. but seriously who wants to think about spiritual stuff while there is a nice movie to watch or some huge party going on?

actually if i think about it there has never been an era in which humanity went fully spiritual. the only things we have experienced so far historically are wars fear and oppression. hedonism is a modern thing that started not so many decades ago and nobody presented our ancestors with it - they actually had to fight for every single freedom as the ruling elite didn't want to lose control.
maybe those new age guys are kinda right when they say that our next step is going to be an age of spiritualism or introspection. but maybe we won't make it that far. our society hangs by a thread. once it breaks down people will be thrown back into fear mode and do what they did before since the dawn of mankind.

ffsi...

You would say that load of shite..

chuckle.gif

Before jesus and his gang of religious mo fo's, we had spiritualism in its purest form.. Indigenous tribes were all about spiritualism..

jesus is love. lol
jk

i hate jesus.

indigenous tribes? spiritual? pffff.
06-06-2015, 05:19 PM #15
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,881 Threads:420 Joined:Jun 2012





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