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Child becomes first minor to be euthanised in Belgium
09-17-2016, 05:51 PM #1
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A terminally ill child has become the first minor to be euthanised in Belgium.

The child, who has not been named, is the first person under 18 to receive euthanasia since the country relaxed its assisted dying laws.

Since 2014, children of all ages are allowed to opt for a doctor-assisted death.

Quote:It is the only country in the world that allows euthanasia on minors of all ages

Quote:Between 2003 and 2013 the number of patients being euthanised in Belgium rose almost eight-fold to a total number of 8,752 cases, according to records from the national euthanasia control committee.

http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/17/child-beco...to=twitter

I'm not sure of my views on this. It is a very difficult topic to have an opinion on.

What do others think about this?

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09-17-2016, 06:24 PM #2
Octo Mother Superior
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If there truly is no chance of living I think you should be allowed to decide for yourself. The age limit of 12 as in the Netherlands sounds reasonable.
09-17-2016, 06:31 PM #3
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(09-17-2016, 06:24 PM)Octo Wrote:  If there truly is no chance of living I think you should be allowed to decide for yourself. The age limit of 12 as in the Netherlands sounds reasonable.

Thank you Octo.

What a decision to make. But that accounts to throwing the towel in. If I think back a couple of months when they said I was too ill to last more than 3 days. Yet here I am and still fighting this. Yes it is not easy and many times I could have thrown the towel in but I did not. Slowly I am battling my way back.

Where there is life there is hope and chance is my belief. dunno.gif

Just my 2 bits worth.

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09-17-2016, 06:35 PM #4
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Yeah I know. I'd like to think there's always hope of recovery, but that's sadly not the case for everyone. You have the will to fight and knowledge to turn this around.

I'm sure your perspective has change on a lot of things during this ordeal.
09-17-2016, 06:40 PM #5
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(09-17-2016, 06:35 PM)Octo Wrote:  Yeah I know. I'd like to think there's always hope of recovery, but that's sadly not the case for everyone. You have the will to fight and knowledge to turn this around.

I'm sure your perspective has change on a lot of things during this ordeal.

This is certainly true. What did surprise me in the hospital was seeing just how many people had just given up and accepted their fate and were just "waiting on God" if you like. I always tried to comfort these people as best I could. I many times got a smile from some of them and you can not believe how wonderful that experience was.

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09-17-2016, 07:37 PM #6
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Back when we were all a bit less humane, it was common practice to give mercy to the sick and elderly.
09-17-2016, 07:48 PM #7
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Just being terminally ill is not the only consideration. What about quality of life? Was she in constant, unbearable pain? Was she completely dependent on others? We just don't know.

Sometimes it is more acceptance than giving up.

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09-17-2016, 10:00 PM #8
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(09-17-2016, 07:48 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  Just being terminally ill is not the only consideration. What about quality of life? Was she in constant, unbearable pain? Was she completely dependent on others? We just don't know.

Sometimes it is more acceptance than giving up.

"The young person was confirmed as having been critically ill, but no other information was given."

You have to assume that there was very good reason for doing such.

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09-18-2016, 01:30 AM #9
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All you can possibly think is ... Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."
I ain't religious I keep trying to maintain it , but a child puts a different spin on things and all you can hope is if there is a kingdom of God this child has found solace and comfort there .
09-18-2016, 05:44 PM #10
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(09-18-2016, 01:30 AM)saviour12631 Wrote:  All you can possibly think is ... Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."
I ain't religious I keep trying to maintain it , but a child puts a different spin on things and all you can hope is if there is a kingdom of God this child has found solace and comfort there .

Amen to that.
09-18-2016, 06:02 PM #11
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My first instinct when I heard about this was "Well, if that's what the child wanted..." but, wow, if that was one of my children - when do you know when that point has been reached?

When is enough truly enough?
When is a parents instinct to keep a child living more powerful than the desire for the child to have a decent quality of life?
If your child is begging to die, and you don't want to let them go... such an awful situation .

One I hope never to be in.

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09-18-2016, 08:46 PM #12
Accidental Stoner Member
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I don't know.
Much like NODOOM, I'm not
sure what I think...

Looks like a slippery slope.
Wasn't abortion at first legal
only if the mother's life/health
was in danger?

Now, it's "a woman's right"...

As an analogy.


At the very least, I hope there'll
be serious checks and balances,
to prevent abuse.
09-19-2016, 07:35 AM #13
Screaming Yellow Zonkers Member
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I think 12 is just too young. It's no better than allowing them to have a sex change at that age.
They do not have the maturity to completely comprehend the situation.

I think no one should be allowed to make this decision unless they are off legal age.
If they are comatose or completely beyond help, which would be in a hospice, then their parents can make the decision with the child .

Just my feelings on it.

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09-19-2016, 11:13 PM #14
Accidental Stoner Member
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Death came as a huge relief,
I can say that much.

But how do you ever know..?
Hope is the last thing
to abandon me,
I guess.



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