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Congress To Vote On Declaration Of World War 3 — An Endless War With No Borders, No Clear Enemies
05-16-2011, 03:21 PM #1
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Quote:The United States Congress is set to vote on legislation that authorizes the official start of World War 3.

The legislation authorizes the President of the United States to take unilateral military action against all nations, organizations, and persons, both domestically and abroad, who are alleged to be currently or who have in the past supported or engaged in hostilities or who have provided aid in support of hostilities against the United States or any of its coalition allies.

The legislation removes the requirement of congressional approval for the use of military force and instead gives the President totalitarian dictatorial authority to engage in any and all military actions for an indefinite period of time.

It even gives the President the authority to launch attacks against American Citizens inside the United States with no congressional oversight whatsoever.

Just to recap, because that was a mouthful:

Endless War – The war will continue until all hostilities are terminated, which will never happen.
No Borders – The president will have the full authority to launch military strikes against any country, organization or person, including against U.S citizens on U.S soil.
Unilateral Military Action – Full authority to invade any nation at any time with no congressional approval required.
No Clearly Defined Enemy – The US can declare or allege anyone a terrorist or allege they are or have been supporting “hostilities” against the US and attack at will.
Authorization To Invade Several Countries – The president would have full authority to invade Iran, Syria, North Korea, along with several other nations in Africa and the Middle East and even Russia and China under the legislation all of which are “know” to have supported and aided hostilities against the United States.

The America Civil Liberties Union writes:

New Authorization of Worldwide War Without End?

Congress may soon vote on a new declaration of worldwide war without end, and without clear enemies. A “sleeper provision” deep inside defense bills pending before Congress could become the single biggest hand-over of unchecked war authority from Congress to the executive branch in modern American history.

President Obama has not sought new war authority. In fact, his administration has made clear that it believes it already has all of the authority that it needs to fight terrorism.

But Congress is considering monumental new legislation that would grant the president – and all presidents after him – sweeping new power to make war almost anywhere and everywhere. Unlike previous grants of authority for the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, the proposed legislation would allow a president to use military force wherever terrorism suspects are present in the world, regardless of whether there has been any harm to U.S. citizens, or any attack on the United States, or any imminent threat of an attack. The legislation is broad enough to permit a president to use military force within the United States and against American citizens. The legislation contains no expiration date, and no criteria to determine when a president’s authority to use military force would end.

Of all of the powers that the Constitution assigns to Congress, no power is more fundamental or important than the power “to declare War.” That is why, in 2002, when Congress was considering whether to authorize war in Iraq, it held fifteen hearings, and passed legislation that cited specific harms, set limits, and defined a clear objective. Now, Congress is poised to give unchecked authority to the executive branch to use military force worldwide, with profoundly negative consequences for our fundamental democratic system of checks and balances. Once Congress expands the president’s war power, it will be nearly impossible to rein it back in. The ACLU strongly opposes a wholesale turnover of war power from Congress to the president – and all of his successors.

http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/05...ies-22785/

Watching tax dollars at work is a wonderful thing, paying money to have attacks launched against American Citizens inside the United States with no congressional oversight whatsoever. .
Sorry, this is just about it. Game over.



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05-16-2011, 03:26 PM #2
yankees skier
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gaah.gif this sucks.

Biere.
05-16-2011, 03:36 PM #3
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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I don't see how that changes anything. The US has attacked how many nations without cause or congressional approval? They'll make up some flimsy excuse to offer as a sop to the useless eaters via MSM and drop bombs on whom ever they please.
05-16-2011, 03:42 PM #4
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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They are getting ready to completely destroy everything the US ever stood for. Honestly, the government there has become quite frighting, fascist and totalitarian. I'm certain when these legislators were voted in this is not what their constituents had in mind.
I can't help but remember German history when I look at this, it's the late 30's - early 40's all over again, and apparently at least some Americans are still in denial to one degree or another.
I'm sure there will be ample time in prison camp to think about what should have been done to stop this tyrannical government that went to war against its citizens in 2001. This shït sucks, the policies are reflective of the paranoid state that the elite have been in since they decided we all have to be put down as it were.
The Bush admin. was tapping our phones before 911, once again none of this has anything to do with terrorism, save for the real terrorists have revealed themselves to the public time and time again.

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05-16-2011, 03:53 PM #5
yankees skier
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TPTB's march to a New World Order continues.

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05-16-2011, 03:56 PM #6
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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That has crossed my mind more and more of late JR, the parallels between Nazi Germany and the US today. What not many people know was it was the dissidents that entered the concentration camps first. The ones who were aware of what was going on and tried to alert the rest. It's a big part of why I am so god-damned frustrated with the bleeting of the sheep, the ones willfully ignoring the obvious signs of fascism. dunno.gif
05-16-2011, 04:08 PM #7
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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(05-16-2011, 03:56 PM)Shadow Wrote:  That has crossed my mind more and more of late JR, the parallels between Nazi Germany and the US today. What not many people know was it was the dissidents that entered the concentration camps first. The ones who were aware of what was going on and tried to alert the rest. It's a big part of why I am so god-damned frustrated with the bleeting of the sheep, the ones willfully ignoring the obvious signs of fascism. dunno.gif

I can't get the parallels out of my mind Shadow. Almost like watching a rerun with different characters playing the same roles. I don't understand how intelligent people can be so blissfully oblivious to what it transpiring here! Zeig heil.

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05-16-2011, 04:44 PM #8
Kreeper Griobhtha
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"The United States Congress is set to vote on legislation that authorizes the official start of World War 3."

"The legislation authorizes the President of the United States to take unilateral military action against all nations, organizations, and persons, both domestically and abroad, who are alleged to be currently or who have in the past supported or engaged in hostilities or who have provided aid in support of hostilities against the United States or any of its coalition allies."


So... Congress and the ROTUS are going to attack themselves? How does that work?


I have been making the parallels between the US and pre-war Germany since W was ROTUS.

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Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
05-16-2011, 05:22 PM #9
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(05-16-2011, 04:44 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  So... Congress and the ROTUS are going to attack themselves? How does that work?

They read the DHS definition of terrorist and realized they were the only ones who actually fit the parameters. rofl.gif They had to take preemptive action and attack themselves.


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05-16-2011, 05:39 PM #10
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
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(05-16-2011, 03:56 PM)Shadow Wrote:  That has crossed my mind more and more of late JR, the parallels between Nazi Germany and the US today. What not many people know was it was the dissidents that entered the concentration camps first. The ones who were aware of what was going on and tried to alert the rest. It's a big part of why I am so god-damned frustrated with the bleeting of the sheep, the ones willfully ignoring the obvious signs of fascism. dunno.gif


That is the reasons for forums such as this. Identify dissenters.

One day when you are posting, there will be no knock on the door, but Men in black in your room, to haul you away.

That is the plan.



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