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Could this be the actual Roswell craft?
05-08-2013, 02:29 AM #31
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(05-08-2013, 02:11 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(05-08-2013, 12:54 AM)Jackinthebox Wrote:  Doubt it. Too perfect. At best I would expect a field of debris.


It wasn't "shot down". It didn't crash in a free fall.

The fields that levitate these craft can be destabilized by intense focused radar waves within a certain frequency modulation ...forcing them down. Their "drives" don't fail entirely. Which explains the amount of damage caused by a hard landing.

The roswell ufo was possibly struck by lightning? or so i've heard and read...
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05-08-2013, 03:01 AM #32
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(05-08-2013, 02:29 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(05-08-2013, 02:11 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(05-08-2013, 12:54 AM)Jackinthebox Wrote:  Doubt it. Too perfect. At best I would expect a field of debris.


It wasn't "shot down". It didn't crash in a free fall.

The fields that levitate these craft can be destabilized by intense focused radar waves within a certain frequency modulation ...forcing them down. Their "drives" don't fail entirely. Which explains the amount of damage caused by a hard landing.

The roswell ufo was possibly struck by lightning? or so i've heard and read...


Lots of theories and stuff thrown out there to muddy the truth. I'm gonna have to go with Boyd Bushman's testimony of how it was taken down as that is further validated by evidence.
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05-08-2013, 03:14 AM #33
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Couple more images that seem to show the same kind of ribbing through the skin...
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...which makes me wonder how long they had and how difficult was it to produce this kind of metallic cloth material. Perhaps the trick wasn't so much in making it but knowing it's properties and what it could be used for? ...reason to make it.

...years ago one of our stealth fighters went down in some foreign country and similar material was reportedly found to be part of it's skin. Key component to bouncing off radar waves... which makes me now think if used in an output capacity to produce fields that it would also make it sensitive to focused radar waves?

If the vril nazis were first to develop a true form of anti-grav technology that would certainly put them in the position of having first contact... which makes an early alliance with the Anunnaki that much more plausible and explains why grey aliens would be inside an earth built craft.
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05-08-2013, 03:24 AM #34
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(05-07-2013, 05:53 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  Why would someone construct such an elaborately built and quite large model of a crashed flying saucer just for a photograph that ended up almost never being seen? and the photo does look fairly old and not cgi or super imposed and if its genuine there must be other even better photos taken during the same time and place...


This is also one of the things I think attest to it's authenticity.

If someone made this for a photo op you would think there would be release information with it and a big snit made about it online... instead I think what we have is the genuine thing quietly leaked through the cracks of the internet.

People are typically going to expect something more fancy and advanced looking so their inclination is to doubt the validity of this... which makes in safe to put something real out there. Most will just think it just another hoax.

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05-08-2013, 03:53 AM #35
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(05-07-2013, 06:46 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  the Flora is all wrong

note also the lack of grass and the sparse vegetation

The Foothills of the Jicarillas where the craft landed is covered in grass
and greasewood bushes

and the craft was setting up against the wall of a wash

not out on the flat ground .

This is not the Roswell Crash which actually hit ground

just a few miles N.E. of Corona New Mexico

what this photo is , I have no idea .


There were reports of two crash sites. Not many were aware of this and it added to the confusion by conflicting witness accounts.

I believe the one you are talking about was the second one and a different kind of craft... perhaps the wave rider that Bill McDonald's interviews described?

http://alienufoart.com/alienufoartsale.html
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I think he however might have merged reports into one crash?

Just from looking through recreation photos on google I see some with it crashed into the side of a mountain and some where it's position on the ground is strikingly similar.
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With the tear in it and a body.(can't really make out the body some of u are seeing)

I did however find this enhanced version...
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Brings out some additional detail that was lost in the original.. you can see more of a rock face on the right hand edge and what looks like some reflective pieces of debris on the ground.

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05-08-2013, 03:59 AM #36
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Together for easy comparison...

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05-08-2013, 05:00 AM #37
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(05-08-2013, 03:24 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(05-07-2013, 05:53 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  Why would someone construct such an elaborately built and quite large model of a crashed flying saucer just for a photograph that ended up almost never being seen? and the photo does look fairly old and not cgi or super imposed and if its genuine there must be other even better photos taken during the same time and place...


People are typically going to expect something more fancy and advanced looking.Most will just think it just another hoax.

We cant judge books by their covers,who knows what fantastically advanced technology is within this craft and out of sight?!

If I filmed a real flying saucer crash landing in my yard with real aliens spilling out of its wreckage,most people would still say its fake,because living in denial of our strange reality is easier than facing the horrible truth for most people and whats the horrible truth? well one of them is that humans are not the dominant species of earths biosphere...
05-08-2013, 05:05 AM #38
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If aliens have the technology to build craft that are capable of being driven and or remotely flown to earth from another planet in another galaxy,or from another dimension,or from another time, then surely they and their craft would also be advanced enough to evade being shot out of the sky by humans and the roswell craft being destroyed by lightning is probably something the aliens technology would be advanced enough to overcome...

But aliens intentionally crashing their (remotely controlled?) ufos and flying saucers (from the future?) onto the earth to help advance the technology of tptb (the royal bloodline elites) is another possibility thats certainly worth considering...
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05-08-2013, 05:56 AM #39
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(05-08-2013, 05:05 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  If aliens have the technology to build craft that are capable of being driven and or remotely flown to earth from another planet in another galaxy,or from another dimension,or from another time, then surely they and their craft would also be advanced enough to evade being shot out of the sky by humans and the roswell craft being destroyed by lightning is probably something the aliens technology would be advanced enough to overcome...

But aliens intentionally crashing their (remotely controlled?) ufos and flying saucers (from the future?) onto the earth to help advance the technology of tptb (the royal bloodline elites) is another possibility thats certainly worth considering...


...only thing is these aren't exactly aliens ...and they aren't from outer space and even if they were it would erroneous to assume there aren't inherent weakness in their technology. Don;t always assumed a race with advanced capabilities is totally superior. We may be more technologically advanced in other ways.

These are Anunnaki reptilian hybrids... Anunnaki being a kind of human that we draw part of our ancestry from. Which make these greys also part human.

One of the wondrous things I think is true about some of the testimony is that when this thing was charged up back in the hanger one could see through the floor and sides of the craft from the inside! ...like that skin could act to channel light to an inside surface that can display it like one big screen.

The pre end of the war Vril craft were made without "alien" assistance but once they retreated to the Antarctica base there was a period of several years where they could refine their technology with Anunnaki assistance and build craft specially made to be piloted by these "drone" greys. The greys themselves had pure anunnaki tech and how they interfaced with the craft may have also been anunnaki tech... one example I am aware of is the dark contact lenses they wear. Those aren't their black eyes everyone sees. they have relatively normal looking eyes underneath just really big and light sensitive. Those contact lenses act like a computer monitor displaying information from their internal uplink implant ...they are all connected together not unlike the borg.

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05-08-2013, 06:25 AM #40
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This paper will give you some insight in the origin of the grey(Sheti) and also help one to understand the Nazi connection.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear..._and_2.pdf

Robert Morning Sky’s Grandfather helped rescue an extraterrestrial from a crashed UFO in 1947 (shortly after the famous Roswell incident). After the six young Native Americans found and pulled Star Elder from the crash, they hid him for several months in their desert camp while they nursed him back to health. Star Elder later told them about alien visitations to the earth over countless centuries.

Star Elder told them about the different races of star beings and the wars they had fought with one another. He told them of genetic scientists who created human life on earth by using their own DNA. He related to them the ongoing power struggle between the descendants of these star beings who have ruled earth since before humans became civilized.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear...apers.html
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05-08-2013, 06:35 AM #41
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(05-08-2013, 06:19 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(05-08-2013, 05:56 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(05-08-2013, 05:05 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  If aliens have the technology to build craft that are capable of being driven and or remotely flown to earth from another planet in another galaxy,or from another dimension,or from another time, then surely they and their craft would also be advanced enough to evade being shot out of the sky by humans and the roswell craft being destroyed by lightning is probably something the aliens technology would be advanced enough to overcome...

But aliens intentionally crashing their (remotely controlled?) ufos and flying saucers (from the future?) onto the earth to help advance the technology of tptb (the royal bloodline elites) is another possibility thats certainly worth considering...


...only thing is these aren't exactly aliens ...and they aren't from outer space and even if they were it would erroneous to assume there aren't inherent weakness in their technology. Don;t always assumed a race with advanced capabilities is totally superior. We may be more technologically advanced in other ways.

These are Anunnaki reptilian hybrids... Anunnaki being a kind of human that we draw part of our ancestry from. Which make these greys also part human.

One of the wondrous things I think is true about some of the testimony is that when this thing was charged up back in the hanger one could see through the floor and sides of the craft from the inside! ...like that skin could act to channel light to an inside surface that can display it like one big screen.

The pre end of the war Vril craft were made without "alien" assistance but once they retreated to the Antarctica base there was a period of several years where they could refine their technology with Anunnaki assistance and build craft specially made to be piloted by these "drone" greys. The greys themselves had pure anunnaki tech and how they interfaced with the craft may have also been anunnaki tech... one example I am aware of is the dark contact lenses they wear. Those aren't their black eyes everyone sees. they have relatively normal looking eyes underneath just really big and light sensitive. Those contact lenses act like a computer monitor displaying information from their internal uplink implant ...they are all connected together not unlike the borg.

Their light shields/goggles they wear makes me think they originate from beneath the earths surface,not trillions of miles away from another planet or galaxy,but from within the unreachable by humans 95% of the earth thats totally unknown and completely unexplored by us and most people never even think about those vast subterranean realms beneath their feet and our intensely bright surface sunlight must hurt and damage the aliens eyes,but the aliens know how to get to us mostly undercover of darkness and they have been for a very long time and the grey aliens so many people have encountered and have been abducted by could be the biological robot servants of the really advanced and highly evolved aliens who might be the reptilians and the insectoids...


Yes... they were hybridized/engineered from an intelligent ground dwelling ancient lizard.

...and even though I refer to them as "drones" does not make them mindless. More that they share a greater mind ...a collectively linked mind. It is a completely different mentality then we are familiar with.

Keep in mind they are also a clone race. While there are individual differences many are identical. Some are piloted simultaneous by the same operating soul. I have heard part of the motivation for breeding with us is to create offspring that are a transitional form for the soul to later incarnate as a full grey... thereby increasing the number of clone "pilots" for their race. They have no other way of bringing new souls into their collective as conventional breeding between each other is not possible ...so this is how they assimilate.
05-08-2013, 06:37 AM #42
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I edited and added to this post a couple of times and so I wanted to repost it in case you or anyone else didnt read this final version...

Abducted people have reported that the flying saucers were seamlessly constructed with interior light emanating from unknown origins and that the aliens telepathically fly and maneuver their mysterious craft (that i still think are time machines)...

Their light shields/goggles they wear makes me think they originate from somewhere far beneath the earths surface,not trillions of miles away from another planet or galaxy,but from within the unreachable by humans 95% of the earth thats totally unknown and completely unexplored by us and most people never even think about those vast subterranean realms beneath their feet and our intensely bright surface sunlight must hurt and damage the aliens eyes,so they wear protective shields,but the aliens know how to get to us mostly but not always undercover of darkness and they have been for a very long time...

The grey aliens so many people have encountered and have been abducted by could be the biological robot servants of the extremely advanced and highly evolved aliens who might be the reptilians and the insectoids...

The eyes of the grey aliens could actually be some sort of highly advanced video recorders/movie cameras sending back audio and visual information during human abductions to their reptilian and insectoid masters who monitor and control them from below...
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05-08-2013, 06:56 AM #43
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(05-08-2013, 06:37 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  I edited and added to this post a couple of times and so I wanted to repost it in case you or anyone else didnt read this final version...

Abducted people have reported that the flying saucers were seamlessly constructed with interior light emanating from unknown origins and that the aliens telepathically fly and maneuver their mysterious craft (that i still think are time machines)...


The eyes of the grey aliens could actually be some sort of highly advanced video recorders/movie cameras sending back audio and visual images to their reptilian and insectoid masters...


Hmm... yes interior light emanating from the wall it's self! and almost all of these advance craft require a mind link to operate. Normal reflexes are simply too slow for the kind of maneuvers that are needed and manual controls systems are too complex and could be fatiguing to operate for extended periods.

This fellow here attests to being take to see an alien engine that was blown out...


It responds to emotion and touch...

This is the sort of engine you expect to need to get around in a solar system. Those little vril craft I think typically require a planetary field to operate(something to "push" off of)... when the Nazis went to the moon(if you believe such things) it supposedly required rocket assisted vril craft. They could probably only get so far up off the Earths surface with vril technology.... but I think the fields they produced could have shielded them from the van allen radiation ...which further makes it plausible to me.
05-08-2013, 08:26 AM #44
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(05-08-2013, 06:35 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(05-08-2013, 06:19 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(05-08-2013, 05:56 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(05-08-2013, 05:05 AM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  If aliens have the technology to build craft that are capable of being driven and or remotely flown to earth from another planet in another galaxy,or from another dimension,or from another time, then surely they and their craft would also be advanced enough to evade being shot out of the sky by humans and the roswell craft being destroyed by lightning is probably something the aliens technology would be advanced enough to overcome...

But aliens intentionally crashing their (remotely controlled?) ufos and flying saucers (from the future?) onto the earth to help advance the technology of tptb (the royal bloodline elites) is another possibility thats certainly worth considering...


...only thing is these aren't exactly aliens ...and they aren't from outer space and even if they were it would erroneous to assume there aren't inherent weakness in their technology. Don;t always assumed a race with advanced capabilities is totally superior. We may be more technologically advanced in other ways.

These are Anunnaki reptilian hybrids... Anunnaki being a kind of human that we draw part of our ancestry from. Which make these greys also part human.

One of the wondrous things I think is true about some of the testimony is that when this thing was charged up back in the hanger one could see through the floor and sides of the craft from the inside! ...like that skin could act to channel light to an inside surface that can display it like one big screen.

The pre end of the war Vril craft were made without "alien" assistance but once they retreated to the Antarctica base there was a period of several years where they could refine their technology with Anunnaki assistance and build craft specially made to be piloted by these "drone" greys. The greys themselves had pure anunnaki tech and how they interfaced with the craft may have also been anunnaki tech... one example I am aware of is the dark contact lenses they wear. Those aren't their black eyes everyone sees. they have relatively normal looking eyes underneath just really big and light sensitive. Those contact lenses act like a computer monitor displaying information from their internal uplink implant ...they are all connected together not unlike the borg.

Their light shields/goggles they wear makes me think they originate from beneath the earths surface,not trillions of miles away from another planet or galaxy,but from within the unreachable by humans 95% of the earth thats totally unknown and completely unexplored by us and most people never even think about those vast subterranean realms beneath their feet and our intensely bright surface sunlight must hurt and damage the aliens eyes,but the aliens know how to get to us mostly undercover of darkness and they have been for a very long time and the grey aliens so many people have encountered and have been abducted by could be the biological robot servants of the really advanced and highly evolved aliens who might be the reptilians and the insectoids...


Yes... they were hybridized/engineered from an intelligent ground dwelling ancient lizard.

...and even though I refer to them as "drones" does not make them mindless. More that they share a greater mind ...a collectively linked mind. It is a completely different mentality then we are familiar with.

A collectively linked mind...Hmmm?...Like the hive mentality of insects...Like some of the aliens might be highly evolved insects...Meaning the insectoids who look like bipedal mantis and or wasps and or ants,which is seriously f###ed up and bizarre,but,they have been seen many times onboard the flying saucers,telepathically controlling the greys during human abductions...
05-08-2013, 08:29 AM #45
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Ever hear of Philip Schneider? > http://www.ufodigest.com/mystery.html

This is mind blowing,fascinating and frightening...

Heres just one video of many other "talks" he gave that were filmed and recorded shortly before being murdered >




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