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Could this be the actual Roswell craft?
05-10-2013, 04:27 PM #91
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(05-10-2013, 03:57 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(05-10-2013, 03:48 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(05-10-2013, 03:36 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(05-10-2013, 02:57 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(05-10-2013, 01:13 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  i cannot type right now

I have a History with the craft is all

i have been on them

Many (abducted) people claim that the flying saucers they were brought upon were made of a seamless construction...Meaning the entire craft was built or molded from one continuous piece of material...How is that possible for such advanced machinery or thought form mechanisms?...Any ideas?


I have heard of a technique for manufacture by sonic molding.

Those would be the more advanced ones.

Totally incredible!...I wonder if the aliens exist within the fourth dimension,all around us beyond our visible spectrum and they adjust their vibrational frequency to appear within our three dimensional reality?...The astounding possibilities are virtually endless!


I think that would depend on the kind of alien.

There is something called a "Verdant" that supposedly can project a physical body from another timespace.

My computer or something else appears to be playing mind games with me when I try to post a reply,when I post one comment its not there,but when I post another they're both there...wtf!?
05-10-2013, 04:30 PM #92
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We have to face the frightening possibility that the aliens might actually be demons in disguise...

Appearing among us disguised as different beings who are compatible and fit more comfortably within the mindset of the people who are living in whatever time period the aliens are visiting...

So the aliens use to appear disguised as elves and faries and leprechauns during the middle ages to abduct humans...

And now the aliens appear within our technological society disguised as aliens from outer space to abduct humans...

But what is a demon?...an alien?...an evil alien?

And what is an alien...a demon?
05-12-2013, 12:12 PM #93
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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ok
i am limited as i am writing from aboard my sailboat and am using battery
power

I have written everything in other forums over the years

all this stuff is really old hat for me


Mother ship is NOT cigar shaped

as i sad : WHITE SANDS IS A PROVING GROUNDS FOR MISSILES
AND RELATED TECH , IT WAS RADAR TECH BEING TESTED , NOT AN
EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRaft that caused the crashes


it was NOT intentional , White Sands HQ had no idea the craft were there


No search party was sent out for an intentionally shot dowm UFO

That should have stood out in your mind when reading " Frenches statements "


I am NOT an insider , I am the Son of aa Man involved as well as what
you may refer to as a contact and rider on these craft .

There is too much to know , for any one man or group, not even a Gov't ,,,
to know

comparatively , we know nothing , and what we assume , is BULLSHIT

because those who control these Craft are Masters at Disinformation

they fool the best any Gov't has for investigators .

While on the Craft , I was told certain things that these Aliens wished for
this Gov't to believe .

So you can count on the info to be formulated to feed the Intelligence
community Bullshit .


One thing I know for a fact , not just a belief

Earthlings are some very destructive and invasive creatures
with a competitive greedy war like Consciousness

and they are quarantined to this Planet by Aliens .

THAT RIGHT THERE IS A FACT .

One you can well believe

if you doubt it , just run your history through your mind a while


if you were an advanced thinking person and had the abillity
to stop earthlings from getting off planet and ğkking with others

would you stop them ?

I certainly would do all I could to stop them .
05-12-2013, 12:32 PM #94
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The actions of our so called leaders have imprisoned us all. Until the current power structure is eradicated I agree, we're stuck.

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05-13-2013, 01:16 AM #95
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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we chose to follow those leaders

hell , we even think we pick them and follow them

SILENT REVOLT WORKS BEST

all it takes is telling the truth and changing peoples consciousness and perceptions
from a defunct position

to a TRUE reality .

it spreads like fire , because everyone KNOWS shït is wrong and they
seek the truth

with exception of those who hide their minds in delusional Comfort Zones .
05-13-2013, 01:36 AM #96
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O my i guess it's not a choice chuckle.gif

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İmage

It's always darkest before it turns absolutely pitch black
05-13-2013, 01:45 AM #97
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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lol.giflol.giflol.giflol.gif


YOU HAD TO GO AND POST THAT WHERE I'D SEE IT chuckle.gif

A POX ON YOUR SACK lmao.gif
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05-13-2013, 12:34 PM #98
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(05-12-2013, 12:32 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  The actions of our so called leaders have imprisoned us all. Until the current power structure is eradicated I agree, we're stuck.


Did you catch the error in judgment Eisenhower made ...as told in that recent interview?

The decision was made based on his advisor's erroneous assumption that the "aliens" were omnipotent and can do what they wanted regardless of any agreement.

There are rules... that even they have to follow. Societal organization as defined on this planet DOES matter... not as much as if we had a planetary governing body but we still have legitimate ones governing the landmasses that represent the populations within.(of course problems do arise when we break our own rules that can and has invalidated US in the past)

...even if they decided to proceed without our permission we could find protection and assistance from other alien species that abide by a common galactic rule of law and this agreement that was struck may have also opened doors for other factions that were not aligned with the ones who made this official contact... which (come to think of it) was likely only done because we had recently demonstrated the ability to interfere with their technology... however abducting clandestinely without ruling body's knowledge that it was happening is far different from asking permission and having it denied. It was a bit of a risk for them to ask but worthwhile as with our permission they could step up their program. It would also look very bad for them if we started to down craft in the process of abducting people. Such things could lead to war and like I mentioned above other species would have galactic legal ground to offer us aid... but there is also more to it then that.

There is a group of Anunnaki here that have been here for a very long time and once were in control but since lost that control to reptilian influences(now they have an alliance of sorts). This faction of Anunnaki are quarantined here with us. They are not allowed to travel to any location further then our moon. This is the faction I believe the separatist nazis in Antarctica are aligned with ...they are far from strangers to this world.

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05-13-2013, 12:39 PM #99
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I would like to also note that on some level or another permission of the individual is almost always a factor in the abduction process... however perhaps not so much necessary after this agreement?
05-13-2013, 02:14 PM #100
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(05-12-2013, 12:12 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  ok
i am limited as i am writing from aboard my sailboat and am using battery
power

I have written everything in other forums over the years

all this stuff is really old hat for me


Mother ship is NOT cigar shaped

as i sad : WHITE SANDS IS A PROVING GROUNDS FOR MISSILES
AND RELATED TECH , IT WAS RADAR TECH BEING TESTED , NOT AN
EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRaft that caused the crashes


it was NOT intentional , White Sands HQ had no idea the craft were there


No search party was sent out for an intentionally shot dowm UFO

That should have stood out in your mind when reading " Frenches statements "


I am NOT an insider , I am the Son of aa Man involved as well as what
you may refer to as a contact and rider on these craft .

There is too much to know , for any one man or group, not even a Gov't ,,,
to know

comparatively , we know nothing , and what we assume , is BULLSHIT

because those who control these Craft are Masters at Disinformation

they fool the best any Gov't has for investigators .

While on the Craft , I was told certain things that these Aliens wished for
this Gov't to believe .

So you can count on the info to be formulated to feed the Intelligence
community Bullshit .


One thing I know for a fact , not just a belief

Earthlings are some very destructive and invasive creatures
with a competitive greedy war like Consciousness

and they are quarantined to this Planet by Aliens .

THAT RIGHT THERE IS A FACT .

One you can well believe

if you doubt it , just run your history through your mind a while


if you were an advanced thinking person and had the abillity
to stop earthlings from getting off planet and ğkking with others

would you stop them ?

I certainly would do all I could to stop them .


I was not suggesting that it was an experimental aircraft but rather merely a specialized pulse radar package they may have been testing in addition the the ground systems.

I had to consider alternatives to the "official" cause that most surrounding this event were told as evidence seemed to speak to something more.

What I do is combine information from multiple sources ...crossreferencing to try and get at the truth. I took the "French" testimony and matched it with the Boyd Bushman's ...which seemed to be further confirmed by this "photo" from the Twilight Zone in that it was a "spherical object". I also still believe it is highly likely that was a recreation made by someone who had seen the real thing. The appearance of it also seem to be confirmed by many of it's features matching that of old Vril craft designs. I also suspected if French was speaking true that it would only partially be true... that details would be withheld/distorted regarding any technique used to down these craft ...which I am now doubting because of what you told me but am still not certain.

...I had asked about the mothership shape as there is Vril mothership design that is cigar shaped and may at least account for a percentage of such shaped craft. The timing of this not long after the war was also suspicious and pointed towards it being a Vril craft ...just about enough time for them to get established and get these ships into production to start operations ...our government knew about the antarctic base and even sent a joint force there after the war but their defenses were too strong so we left them alone... this is why I thought perhaps that a level within our government was aware of the nature of most of these craft and perhaps saw them as an increasing security threat? ...which could have motivated the intentional downing of such craft ...this was only a suspicion that seemed to be confirmed by multiple reports that at least one was "shot" down. If we truly thought them alien craft I do not think we would have risked such an action... which is again why I thought it plausible that we intentionally downed them.

If this was indeed the faction of Anunnaki who live here they most certainly would be interested in the gold in that mountain... and from what I gathered from the small amount of research I did that there may be something special about that location. You mentioned treasure from thousands of years ago... but I all I could find was mention of Spanish gold. However often treasure is hidden where other treasure already lies ...perhaps some of the treasure is in the form of an ancient technology installation?

I do not know what faction you rode around with... not all greys belong to the same. While not being privy to that level of contact I have had a couple close calls. One sighting I had I went outside knowing they would be there and they were ...not very high up either. Definitely a saucer shape emitting a strange kind of white light from it's bottom that had a rotational quality to it ...as I understand it that is a side effect to the field that lifts the craft ...also able to emit colored wavelengths. Another was an attempted pickup while I was remotely linked. I do not have an implant and was not abducted as a child but I emitted a signal none the less through my whole body nervous system similar to what happens when the "locator" function of an implant activates. Two craft were inbound to my location. They made some sort of White House "check" ...which I understand now must have been part of this agreement. They had some sort of mental cage they brought with them... they didn't make it. Their field collapsed in mid flight ...and I now believe their ship interface was interrupted. The cage was seen as a threat to me. They planned on transporting me somewhere... for what I don't know.

The White House "check" was performed during the Bush years and his presidency was determined to be invalid do to all of the fraud in the election process. "voter intent was not reflected" ...by the prototype governing validation AI that was assisting the intelligence community at the time ...on which the movie "Eagle Eye" was loosely based. You do not break your own rules ...or societal structures get redefined. For awhile the US became considered likened to a loose organization of gangs ...all soldier contracts pledging service to the Commander and Chief were technically rendered invalid as well. This can be very dangerous because as our rights as a civilized sentient species gets downgraded it could open us up to legal invasion ...not openly in mass of course as other aliens would not allow that to happen unchallenged ...but more in the sense of pillaging ...like taking people for nefarious purposes or hostile infiltration on the ground.

I have also been in contact with several people who were also riders... some of them involved in deep black projects. One group that I am in off and on contact with actually trains individuals to be advanced contact interfacers... non-verbal alien communication able and they use it. While technically a public organization they operate with NSA/ACIO secrecy protocols. They sometimes use technology and techniques that require NSA non-disclosure agreements. One of the alien groups they communicate with is a faction of Anunnaki that are mainly responsible for the quarantine here. While reasons you state for us humans being quarantine are valid there is much more to it then that. One of those other reasons being simply that we aren't yet able to properly communicate... even with each other.
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05-13-2013, 03:38 PM #101
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I had to consider alternatives to the "official" cause that most surrounding this event were told as evidence seemed to speak to something more.


I should have worded that differently. My consideration is that if there had been an alterior motive for the test very few would have been made aware of it as I would doubt they would tell people they were attempting to down a UFO. It would have been as simple as conducting a test that maybe all of one or two knew could affect these saucers this way... maybe there had been a few sightings reported around that mountain? Maybe after "accidentally" downing the first two craft an interceptor was sent up? ...pilot would have no idea the contact he would have till in the air where he would have been instructed to use the new "weapon"? ...I would be very surprised if no planes were sent up at all... did they maybe have planes up as part of the radar test? How soon after the crashes was the base aware of them? ...not till civilian reports came in? ...did they see them on radar before they crashed?

What i do know for fact that UFOs have since intentionally been down using such radar frequencies.

...now don't get me wrong. I am merely considering. Not saying that is what happened but suggesting that could possibly have been what happened even with the level of knowledge you posses surrounding this event? I am also not sure what advantage to the cover up would be to claim they were intentionally downed versus accidentally? ...maybe just to distract from the real cause?

...as to the mothership. I suspect you said that is what these Roswell craft were deployed from based on your own experiences? ...or based on something your father knew? i think if the aliens you rode with talked about why humans are quarantined here then they likely aren't the faction that live here? ...which could necessitate the use of a mothership. The faction that don't live here are considered more "benevolent" by the contactees I have been in communication with.

I also suspect that when people have contact the aliens typically don't complicate matters by making it known there are different groups of them but rather just find it easier and advantageous to explain it as if they all belong to the same.

I am curious what they wished for our government to believe?

While on the Craft , I was told certain things that these Aliens wished for
this Gov't to believe .


Could you elaborate?

I know a lot of talk from me and I am sorry for all the questions I have posed. I am merely trying to clarify this event combined with other truths I know of ...of course I don't expect you to necessarily know or answer them. I often ask just to pose possibility. Please don't think me the typical ignoramous that has interest in this kind of subject matter.

...because of you I am now leaning towards it being just an accident but still trying to identify whether these were local group of Anunnaki Vril craft or from somewhere else.
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05-13-2013, 09:44 PM #102
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It looks to me more like a still photo from some 50s b-movie... The thing is, so many of them were alike (Lord knows I've watched enough of them myself LOL) that it would be hard to figure out which one...
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05-15-2013, 03:09 PM #103
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(05-08-2013, 07:02 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  
(05-08-2013, 02:11 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(05-08-2013, 12:54 AM)Jackinthebox Wrote:  Doubt it. Too perfect. At best I would expect a field of debris.


It wasn't "shot down". It didn't crash in a free fall.

The fields that levitate these craft can be destabilized by intense focused radar waves within a certain frequency modulation ...forcing them down. Their "drives" don't fail entirely. Which explains the amount of damage caused by a hard landing.


That's exactly how it was brought down

and it was at Whitesands Missile range where the tech was being experimented with


FOUR went down over a couple weeks, ( more like ten days time )

and the Military did not TRY to bring these down

it was simply a result of the experiment .


Ok, been going over some more of this.

Missed this part about it happening over a period of 10 days ...which changes some possibilities i had been considering.

Can I assume that each time they went down in pairs? So that was two instances over this period? Craft were not sent to investigate other lost craft then? ...unless there was a span of days inbetween?


(05-08-2013, 07:21 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  quote :There were reports of two crash sites. Not many were aware of this and it added to the confusion by conflicting witness accounts.


as i said

my father was a Staff Sgt. at walker in 1947

he ran the post office on the base when the call came into the switch board

from the sheriff who had Max brazel in his office

Dad helped clean up the First Craft ( there were four crashes around White Sands )

He took me to the sight when I was 27 in 1982 .

and YES classified projects are given to screen writers

so if the public witnesses something

or something is leaked

it can be claimed they watch too many movies .

each of the four craft were visiting Victorio Peak on Whitesands

a hoard of treasure was inside of the peak .

figure it out from there .

I was taken to the peak in Oct. 1961 on a Craft to show me
the Army removing some of the treasure .

Figure that one out


and for Lisa Boxx

be careful with your mouth .


In 1961 you were 8 years old... are you suggesting that you time traveled with them to witness this removal? or maybe experienced an immersion record?

I suspect the saucers that were downed were looting Solomon's "bread"? Perhaps this wasn't merely a stash but one of several ancient production facilities for this material that the Anunnaki have a strong affinity for...

'61 was not long after an agreement with our government was struck but also when JFK took office.

Were they upset about the removal of treasure? or was it done with their consent? perhaps we struck some kind of deal with them?

I am now fairly convinced that this faction that made deals with our government who you rode around with belong to the same group that allied with the vril nazis at the end of the war. While some of the UFOs are man made and jointly operated they of course still have their own craft ...many of which may be of ancient origin and much more advanced then what makes up the bulk of those flying around. There is so much out there.

I was not certain and I had to err on the side of doubt... I had not traveled down these consideration pathways before.

I have had no physical contact... privy to no clearance levels yet I am steeped in this. Often those who do... still have viewpoints slanted one way or another. This does not reflect the whole truth. So I have to doubt what others regard as fact even if they are certain based on their experiences and knowledge from what has been disclosed to them ...as this may constitute a larger agenda box that distorts the bigger picture ...the full planetary situational status.

Truth shines from many angles and often seeming contradiction can be evidence of greater truth when both are taken into consideration.

So please do not take offense at my doubt. I am merely trying to combine information to build a bigger better picture.

Your uncommon knowledge regarding several things already has my confidence.
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05-15-2013, 03:55 PM #104
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Wow, I was just watching this again and noticed that parts have been chopped out... parts that where it seemed he would have went into more detail.

10:44

He talks about seeing an anti-grav formula on a card then it cuts to him mentioning different types of grey. Big hunk missing ...then it cuts again to "How did you see that evidence" at 10:50 then he goes to talking about seeing the autopsy film. It doesn't string together... some big details that they were either made to remove to be allowed to publish this or he told them to after to leave those parts out ...or it was just too heavy to be released just yet so they withheld it for later?

So... something about their tech that he may have mentioned and something about their anatomy from the autopsy footage... what do you want to bet he confirmed that they were more or less human? ...and I bet he explained their anti-grav in simple terms and maybe a key to making it work?
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05-15-2013, 04:36 PM #105
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So based on this deathbed disclosure @11:05 can we also assume this video is a bullshit reenactment of a real interview that took place?


Narrative also sounds like bullshit.



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