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10-01-2015, 12:20 AM #1
Zaphod Beeblebrox Member
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The big choice is a little over a year away, and I've decided to give a bit of a round up of those that are in the race to become President of the United States.

In the red corner, we have the following contestants:

A loud-mouthed, rug-wearing, side-switching billionaire who is most famous for, well, BEING a billionaire, who has held no previous political office, but he does put out some great soundbites.

A soft-spoken, religious, black (let's face it, it IS one of his qualifications) neurosurgeon who has held no previous political office, and has attracted the ire of the mainstream media with some of his comments, but not nearly as much as our first red corner candidate.

A woman (her chief qualifying characteristic) who, as CEO of Hewlett-Packard, managed to lay off a LOT of people, and still fail to deliver sufficient earnings to keep her position, and other than that, she was an advisor for John McCain's 2008 Presidential campaign, and lost a senatorial election to Barbara Boxer.

A Latino member of the U.S. Senate, who has been one of the driving forces behind the controversial amnesty push in D.C. , and also holds the distinction of being the deciding vote for approving Obamatrade WITHOUT reading it.

A religious, Canadian-born Latino member of the U.S. Senate who is currently most famous for a filibuster that included references to Green Eggs and Ham, Star Wars, which ultimately achieved nothing, and for being the candidate of choice for a 13 year old black social media conservative who thrashes Obama every chance he gets.

A former governor of Florida who is really in over his head, the epitome of RINO, and simply trying to be the third member of his immediate family to hold the office of President of the United States.

A U.S. Senator whose father has run for the Presidency in years past, often as the "oddball" candidate. Is a constitutionalist, yet occasionally joins forces with RINOS. Also has an ineffectual filibuster to his credit.

The current governor of New Jersey, most known for his love of pastries, hugging President Obama, and the BridgeGate Scandal.

In the blue corner, we have:

An old, crusty, crazy-haired socialist hippie "independent" who serves as a congressman for Vermont, and is running as a Democrat, pushing Scandinavian socialism for the United States, promising a great many expensive plans with no clear explanation of how they would be paid for. His main qualification appears to be a neat-o catch phrase (feel the bern), and that he's crazy enough to be different.

An old, crusty, crazy-eyed former FLOTUS/Senator/Secretary of State, who is currently being investigated for possibly sharing state secrets on her personal email server, as well as attempting to delete all of them and claiming they didn't exist. She is part of a foundation that has extremely dubious donors, as well as unaccounted for funding. She is most likely responsible for the deaths of four U.S. citizens, including military personnel, and a U.S. Ambassador during riots in Libya, and then blamed it on a video that NO ONE had ever heard of, let alone ever seen. There are numerous other scandals in her past that also have a trail of bodies dripping from them. Her main qualification seems to be her vagina, and her husband's unwillingness to utilize it.

There you go, America... Pick one, if you dare.

(***NOTE*** the OP has no personal preference currently, and isn't very happy with the choices offered)

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10-01-2015, 12:55 AM #2
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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The interesting aspect from my perspective is just how irrelevant the establishment candidates have become, as well as the MSM. The MSM are no longer the proverbial "kingmakers" they once were, and they know it.
On the surface of course the talking heads are in denial at least publicly, and still go through the motions of opinion molding, however, they are playing to a very small audience.
As far as candidates go, the media was pushing the usual wares, Bush vs. Clinton and whoever wins it'll be more of the same... four more wars to prop up the petrol dollar and the American lifestyle based on the blood of people around the world, more caliphate states where legitimate governments once stood, you know, the same post nine eleven course that's worked so wonderfully and brought us to this current utopia.
I have to say Trump has really surprised me. At first I didn't take his candidacy seriously, but I actually believe he is serious, and what he's saying is obviously striking a chord with people.
His appearance on any TV show is a guaranteed ratings bonanza, and though the media despises him, and tries to make little of him, he just keeps going up in the polls.
Personally I've liked Ben Carson from day one, and am quite happy to see him where he is, and I identify with what he says. Carson and Trump are not that far away in political terms. Trump introducing single payer healthcare and the new tax plan are in his favor, as the current system is not healthcare, but a tax on those who can't afford the outrageously overpriced debacle.
As for Sanders, I can identify with where he's coming from. I'm concerned where the money is coming from though.
I'd like to see what this bold plan of his is going to cost, and how it affects the so called classes in terms of taxes.
Hillary... oh jesus... She's got some baggage, and it's not helping her one bit. If she could be half the president her husband was I'd vote for her, but she is not her husband, and she must stand on her own merit.
Not to mention I'm a bit concerned about her health with all the behind the scenes reports of bad news in that department.
I can't say I can throw my unequivocal support behind any of the major candidates at this time, as it's way to early in the game for that.
In terms of policy, I identify most with long shot Rand Paul, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen.
Meanwhile I'm getting a lot of enjoyment watching the MSM squirm like the untrustworthy snakes they are.
Somewhere along the line, the blinders were taken off a larger percentage of the population than was the previous norm, and I credit the internet for a lot of that.
This is the first national election where the MSM is no longer a driving force in peoples choice via opinion molding.
Certainly is interesting to watch all this though.

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10-01-2015, 01:02 AM #3
Zaphod Beeblebrox Member
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(10-01-2015, 12:55 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  The interesting aspect from my perspective is just how irrelevant the establishment candidates have become, as well as the MSM. The MSM are no longer the proverbial "kingmakers" they once were, and they know it.
On the surface of course the talking heads are in denial at least publicly, and still go through the motions of opinion molding, however, they are playing to a very small audience.
As far as candidates go, the media was pushing the usual wares, Bush vs. Clinton and whoever wins it'll be more of the same... four more wars to prop up the petrol dollar and the American lifestyle based on the blood of people around the world, more caliphate states where legitimate governments once stood, you know, the same post nine eleven course that's worked so wonderfully and brought us to this current utopia.
I have to say Trump has really surprised me. At first I didn't take his candidacy seriously, but I actually believe he is serious, and what he's saying is obviously striking a chord with people.
His appearance on any TV show is a guaranteed ratings bonanza, and though the media despises him, and tries to make little of him, he just keeps going up in the polls.
Personally I've liked Ben Carson from day one, and am quite happy to see him where he is, and I identify with what he says. Carson and Trump are not that far away in political terms. Trump introducing single payer healthcare and the new tax plan are in his favor, as the current system is not healthcare, but a tax on those who can't afford the outrageously overpriced debacle.
As for Sanders, I can identify with where he's coming from. I'm concerned where the money is coming from though.
I'd like to see what this bold plan of his is going to cost, and how it affects the so called classes in terms of taxes.
Hillary... oh jesus... She's got some baggage, and it's not helping her one bit. If she could be half the president her husband was I'd vote for her, but she is not her husband, and she must stand on her own merit.
Not to mention I'm a bit concerned about her health with all the behind the scenes reports of bad news in that department.
I can't say I can throw my unequivocal support behind any of the major candidates at this time, as it's way to early in the game for that.
In terms of policy, I identify most with long shot Rand Paul, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen.
Meanwhile I'm getting a lot of enjoyment watching the MSM squirm like the untrustworthy snakes they are.
Somewhere along the line, the blinders were taken off a larger percentage of the population than was the previous norm, and I credit the internet for a lot of that.
This is the first national election where the MSM is no longer a driving force in peoples choice via opinion molding.
Certainly is interesting to watch all this though.

Very astute. There are a couple of candidates that I could possibly be swayed enough to vote for, but it would take some serious work on their parts.

As for the MSM not driving this election, that may be true in a certain sense, but they still have the attention of quite a few people. The larger influence in this election, in my opinion, is coming from social media, and the methods of using it being employed by the SJW's.

"You want to see my spaceship?" ~Zaphod Beeblebrox

"Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?" ~Gag Halfrunt
10-01-2015, 01:12 AM #4
Octo Mother Superior
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(10-01-2015, 12:55 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  As for Sanders, I can identify with where he's coming from. I'm concerned where the money is coming from though.

Maybe from downsizing the military establishment for instance?

Interestingly the US insists on calling it socialized health care while in the rest of the world (which actually have it) it is known as universal health care.

Quote:The term ["socialized medicine"] was popularized by the public relations firm Whitaker and Baxter working for the American Medical Association in 1947 to disparage President Truman's proposal for a national health care system. It was a label, at the dawn of the cold war, meant to suggest that anybody advocating universal access to health care must be a communist. And the phrase has retained its political power for six decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialized_medicine

The current US healthcare system is atrocious.

Trump may be an asshat, but he's a business man and he gets shït done.
10-01-2015, 01:13 AM #5
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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I believe the SJW's are going out of fashion quickly. I feel people have had just about enough of the PC shït. It's even happening here in Finland.
To hear folks discuss immigration here is akin to a conversation you might hear in a Kentucky trailer park after everyone's downed a twelve pack of Natural Ice.

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10-01-2015, 01:16 AM #6
Zaphod Beeblebrox Member
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(10-01-2015, 01:13 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  I believe the SJW's are going out of fashion quickly.

From your lips, to God's ears.

"You want to see my spaceship?" ~Zaphod Beeblebrox

"Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?" ~Gag Halfrunt
10-01-2015, 01:19 AM #7
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Yeah, admittedly I kinda' hope he's listening. chuckle.gif

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10-01-2015, 03:02 AM #8
Kreeper Griobhtha
Posts:10,851 Threads:655 Joined:Feb 2011
(10-01-2015, 12:55 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  I have to say Trump has really surprised me. At first I didn't take his candidacy seriously, but I actually believe he is serious, and what he's saying is obviously striking a chord with people.
His appearance on any TV show is a guaranteed ratings bonanza, and though the media despises him, and tries to make little of him, he just keeps going up in the polls.
Personally I've liked Ben Carson from day one, and am quite happy to see him where he is, and I identify with what he says. Carson and Trump are not that far away in political terms. Trump introducing single payer healthcare and the new tax plan are in his favor, as the current system is not healthcare, but a tax on those who can't afford the outrageously overpriced debacle.
As for Sanders, I can identify with where he's coming from. I'm concerned where the money is coming from though.

I can't say I can throw my unequivocal support behind any of the major candidates at this time, as it's way to early in the game for that.

Trump seems to have learned a lot from Vince McMahon. Quite the showman. But at least he isn't in bed with the special interests.

No too sure about Carson. I need to check him out more.

Sanders is a Socialist and a coward. ğck him.

And ğck the rest of them too.

We are so screwed.

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor
10-01-2015, 03:12 AM #9
Cynicalabsurdance Member
Posts:9,230 Threads:213 Joined:Feb 2011
Have a thought for you guys

formed as a question

" What indicators are showing that the U.S.A. will even be
a Nation by the end of 2016 ? "

You may not have to bother with a President any more .

Just might be ,,, well ,,, after all , the Continent hasn't been invaded in a Long
time ,,,

and is way over due .
10-01-2015, 10:04 AM #10
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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The king of the north is trampling on the ambitions of installing another destabilizing caliphate state in Syria.
I'm certain that doesn't sit will with the groomed actors/puppets and banking goals. I expect the groomed actors/puppets to lash out at the king of the north and east, in the name of the almighty IMF which may well rain hell down on the kingdom.
Or the military will revolt against the banking figurehead before that occurs. I'm not sure. popcorn2.gif

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10-01-2015, 01:11 PM #11
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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If it made any difference, they wouldn't allow us to vote. (Or the candidate will be removed from the line-up, ala Perot.)
10-01-2015, 01:25 PM #12
bohica Member
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(10-01-2015, 01:11 PM)DaJavoo Wrote:  If it made any difference, they wouldn't allow us to vote. (Or the candidate will be removed from the line-up, ala Perot.)

Mark Twain said almost the same thing over 150 years ago.

It's really a shame that with a population so large, the choices we have are so dismal.

It's all about the power.

I'm in my seventh decade on Earth. I know things.
10-01-2015, 01:32 PM #13
Octo Mother Superior
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The illusion of choice feeds the illusion of freedom and democracy.

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10-01-2015, 01:39 PM #14
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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iagree.gif Governments are just Hollywood for ugly people. The sooner everybody wakes the hell up to the legitimized mafia and stops financing their own demise the better.

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10-01-2015, 01:48 PM #15
Kreeper Griobhtha
Posts:10,851 Threads:655 Joined:Feb 2011
(10-01-2015, 01:32 PM)Octo Wrote:  The illusion of choice feeds the illusion of freedom and democracy.

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Exactly right. Democracy is a lie. In tribal days we selected our leaders. And we selected our chose leaders from among all men in the tribe/village. Elections are a lie. We supposedly get to pick from among the puppets they present us with and NOT with who we want to lead us. And in the end we don't select them at all. Even that part is a lie. The electoral college selects them.

So, it doesn't really make a difference which puppet we vote for. I say vote for the Resident that will give the most material to comedians.

TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!

Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to poor



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