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01-07-2015, 05:34 PM #1
Cloud Atlas Member
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It happens every day at work, I have disscussions with my boss about life in general, humans, science, religion, etc. We are of different opinions, and his attitude is so atheistic, like he says humans are nothing, they die and thats it, nothing different from animals.

This is my reply to him, in other words ofcourse ................. but later I found it on the internet;


The need to discover about yourself is the core difference from humans to animals.

"The search for wisdom is a great challenge;
to act on wisdom is an even greater challenge." - Jagad Guru


What is the Difference Between Humans and Animals?
Edited lecture by Jagad Guru

In their activities and interests, humans and animals have several characteristics in common:

Animals eat. Human beings also have to eat.
Animals sleep. Human beings also need sleep.
Animals have sex to procreate. Humans also have sex.
Animals defend themselves; they fight. Human beings also have to defend themselves.

Despite the similarities, there is a fundamental difference between human beings and animals. What is that difference?

The distinction between the human form of life and the animal form of life is not that humans sleep on beds and animals sleep on the ground; it’s not that humans walk on two legs and many animals walk on four legs; it’s not that humans eat at a dining table with utensils and napkins while animals just eat with their mouth to the ground in some way. Humans are not meant to simply be refined animals. There is a much deeper and meaningful difference between humans and animals.

Beyond the activities humans and animals have in common (eating, sleeping, mating, and defending), human beings have a fifth faculty: the intelligence to inquire into the truth of our existence:

Who am I?
Why am I here? What is the purpose of my existence?
Why am I suffering?
How can I liberate myself from this suffering condition?

It is this extraordinarily valuable ability to be introspective—to question the meaning and purpose of our existence and endeavor to find a solution to human suffering—that sets humans apart from animals.

To use a “muscle” analogy, a person who has very big muscles can pick up a 100-pound bag of rice. But a five-year old lacks the muscles to pick up that 100-pound bag. In the less evolved condition, when a person is in the animal form of life, he doesn’t have the spiritual muscles to be introspective and to make spiritual advancement.

If a person is born in the human form of life but doesn’t use that spiritual muscle—doesn’t take advantage of the opportunity to find answers to his identity and make spiritual advancement— then his muscles are wasted.

As human beings, we have the opportunity to use our intelligence to seek answers to essential questions such as “Who am I?” and “What is the purpose of life?” If we don’t use the human form of life to seek answers to these all-important questions—if we simply remain preoccupied with eating, sleeping, mating, and defending—then we will have wasted the opportunity inherent in the human form to realize our true identity and purpose and achieve genuine spiritual happiness.

“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.” ― David Mitchell
01-07-2015, 06:14 PM #2
Ruby Wolf Member
Posts:10,786 Threads:721 Joined:Oct 2012
Lets do some verbal math...

Earth + Auschwitz = God Is Evil or God Is Dead or God Never Existed...

You and i must decide which one of those faith shattering soul crushing realities we will live and die believing...

İmage
01-07-2015, 06:27 PM #3
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
Posts:31,393 Threads:1,439 Joined:Feb 2011
Atheism is simply an aspect of G_d's duality.

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failboat Show this Post
01-07-2015, 07:18 PM #4
failboat Incognito Anonymous
 
(01-07-2015, 05:34 PM)Cloud Atlas Wrote:  It happens every day at work, I have disscussions with my boss about life in general, humans, science, religion, etc. We are of different opinions, and his attitude is so atheistic, like he says humans are nothing, they die and thats it, nothing different from animals.

This is my reply to him, in other words ofcourse ................. but later I found it on the internet;


The need to discover about yourself is the core difference from humans to animals.

"The search for wisdom is a great challenge;
to act on wisdom is an even greater challenge." - Jagad Guru


What is the Difference Between Humans and Animals?
Edited lecture by Jagad Guru

In their activities and interests, humans and animals have several characteristics in common:

Animals eat. Human beings also have to eat.
Animals sleep. Human beings also need sleep.
Animals have sex to procreate. Humans also have sex.
Animals defend themselves; they fight. Human beings also have to defend themselves.

Despite the similarities, there is a fundamental difference between human beings and animals. What is that difference?

The distinction between the human form of life and the animal form of life is not that humans sleep on beds and animals sleep on the ground; it’s not that humans walk on two legs and many animals walk on four legs; it’s not that humans eat at a dining table with utensils and napkins while animals just eat with their mouth to the ground in some way. Humans are not meant to simply be refined animals. There is a much deeper and meaningful difference between humans and animals.

Beyond the activities humans and animals have in common (eating, sleeping, mating, and defending), human beings have a fifth faculty: the intelligence to inquire into the truth of our existence:

Who am I?
Why am I here? What is the purpose of my existence?
Why am I suffering?
How can I liberate myself from this suffering condition?

It is this extraordinarily valuable ability to be introspective—to question the meaning and purpose of our existence and endeavor to find a solution to human suffering—that sets humans apart from animals.

To use a “muscle” analogy, a person who has very big muscles can pick up a 100-pound bag of rice. But a five-year old lacks the muscles to pick up that 100-pound bag. In the less evolved condition, when a person is in the animal form of life, he doesn’t have the spiritual muscles to be introspective and to make spiritual advancement.

If a person is born in the human form of life but doesn’t use that spiritual muscle—doesn’t take advantage of the opportunity to find answers to his identity and make spiritual advancement— then his muscles are wasted.

As human beings, we have the opportunity to use our intelligence to seek answers to essential questions such as “Who am I?” and “What is the purpose of life?” If we don’t use the human form of life to seek answers to these all-important questions—if we simply remain preoccupied with eating, sleeping, mating, and defending—then we will have wasted the opportunity inherent in the human form to realize our true identity and purpose and achieve genuine spiritual happiness.

why does everything have to be spiritual?
01-07-2015, 08:29 PM #5
golden locks Member
Posts:367 Threads:23 Joined:Jun 2014
Quote:why does everything have to be spiritual?


It doesn't.
As CA just described you can live a full satisfying life (just like the animals).
But we can choose to expand, And that's what makes it interesting. uhhuh.gif
01-07-2015, 08:40 PM #6
Accidental Stoner Member
Posts:8,924 Threads:71 Joined:Feb 2011
I'm not sure about that.

Who is to say just what a musing kitteh
or a lazy-eyed puppeh is meditating upon?
Maybe dogs smell the memories of their
ancestors... 13.gif

Maybe real wisdom is realizing, that nothing
I do is more "important" than anything any
other creature does.

Kittehs go "meow"
puppehs go "woof woof"
and humans go "blah blah"
...and all we all have is the now,
and emotions about that fact.

And "duality" is existence.
If all is same,
then there is no other than
= end of information, end of existence.
01-07-2015, 08:53 PM #7
Accidental Stoner Member
Posts:8,924 Threads:71 Joined:Feb 2011
Seems to me,
consciousness is the 4th dimension.

And none of them can exist without the other 3.(.?)
01-07-2015, 08:56 PM #8
Accidental Stoner Member
Posts:8,924 Threads:71 Joined:Feb 2011
What was it the Artist strange-symbol-thingiemajingy,
Formerly Known As 'Prince' once sang?

"Some say man ain't happy truly
'til man truly dies"

or something along those lines.

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01-08-2015, 07:00 AM #9
nobody Member
Posts:233 Threads:62 Joined:Dec 2014



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01-08-2015, 09:58 AM #10
Cloud Atlas Member
Posts:532 Threads:98 Joined:Aug 2013
(01-07-2015, 06:14 PM)Cosmic August Wrote:  Lets do some verbal math...

Earth + Auschwitz = God Is Evil or God Is Dead or God Never Existed...

You and i must decide which one of those faith shattering soul crushing realities we will live and die believing...

İmage

your maths is just short sighted

“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.” ― David Mitchell
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
01-08-2015, 10:19 AM #11
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
prettty cynical. best to keep an open mind.
01-08-2015, 10:20 AM #12
Cloud Atlas Member
Posts:532 Threads:98 Joined:Aug 2013
(01-07-2015, 07:18 PM)failboat Wrote:  
(01-07-2015, 05:34 PM)Cloud Atlas Wrote:  It happens every day at work, I have disscussions with my boss about life in general, humans, science, religion, etc. We are of different opinions, and his attitude is so atheistic, like he says humans are nothing, they die and thats it, nothing different from animals.

This is my reply to him, in other words ofcourse ................. but later I found it on the internet;


The need to discover about yourself is the core difference from humans to animals.

"The search for wisdom is a great challenge;
to act on wisdom is an even greater challenge." - Jagad Guru


What is the Difference Between Humans and Animals?
Edited lecture by Jagad Guru

In their activities and interests, humans and animals have several characteristics in common:

Animals eat. Human beings also have to eat.
Animals sleep. Human beings also need sleep.
Animals have sex to procreate. Humans also have sex.
Animals defend themselves; they fight. Human beings also have to defend themselves.

Despite the similarities, there is a fundamental difference between human beings and animals. What is that difference?

The distinction between the human form of life and the animal form of life is not that humans sleep on beds and animals sleep on the ground; it’s not that humans walk on two legs and many animals walk on four legs; it’s not that humans eat at a dining table with utensils and napkins while animals just eat with their mouth to the ground in some way. Humans are not meant to simply be refined animals. There is a much deeper and meaningful difference between humans and animals.

Beyond the activities humans and animals have in common (eating, sleeping, mating, and defending), human beings have a fifth faculty: the intelligence to inquire into the truth of our existence:

Who am I?
Why am I here? What is the purpose of my existence?
Why am I suffering?
How can I liberate myself from this suffering condition?

It is this extraordinarily valuable ability to be introspective—to question the meaning and purpose of our existence and endeavor to find a solution to human suffering—that sets humans apart from animals.

To use a “muscle” analogy, a person who has very big muscles can pick up a 100-pound bag of rice. But a five-year old lacks the muscles to pick up that 100-pound bag. In the less evolved condition, when a person is in the animal form of life, he doesn’t have the spiritual muscles to be introspective and to make spiritual advancement.

If a person is born in the human form of life but doesn’t use that spiritual muscle—doesn’t take advantage of the opportunity to find answers to his identity and make spiritual advancement— then his muscles are wasted.

As human beings, we have the opportunity to use our intelligence to seek answers to essential questions such as “Who am I?” and “What is the purpose of life?” If we don’t use the human form of life to seek answers to these all-important questions—if we simply remain preoccupied with eating, sleeping, mating, and defending—then we will have wasted the opportunity inherent in the human form to realize our true identity and purpose and achieve genuine spiritual happiness.

why does everything have to be spiritual?

You don't 'be' spiritual, you gain spirituality.
As much as you cannot be educated unless you work for it, you gain education.
Same as for learning, to gain spirituality you must not shut the doors, just be open and inviting. Anima,ls "do not have to be spiritual", then humans who won't are not much different from animals.

“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.” ― David Mitchell
01-08-2015, 12:40 PM #13
Accidental Stoner Member
Posts:8,924 Threads:71 Joined:Feb 2011
(01-08-2015, 07:00 AM)nobody Wrote:  


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lmao.gif

Dammit, nobody!
Coffee all over the laptop screen - again.

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01-08-2015, 12:53 PM #14
White Ribbon call me
Posts:9,779 Threads:371 Joined:Apr 2013
(01-07-2015, 07:18 PM)failboat Wrote:  
(01-07-2015, 05:34 PM)Cloud Atlas Wrote:  It happens every day at work, I have disscussions with my boss about life in general, humans, science, religion, etc. We are of different opinions, and his attitude is so atheistic, like he says humans are nothing, they die and thats it, nothing different from animals.

This is my reply to him, in other words ofcourse ................. but later I found it on the internet;


The need to discover about yourself is the core difference from humans to animals.

"The search for wisdom is a great challenge;
to act on wisdom is an even greater challenge." - Jagad Guru


What is the Difference Between Humans and Animals?
Edited lecture by Jagad Guru

In their activities and interests, humans and animals have several characteristics in common:

Animals eat. Human beings also have to eat.
Animals sleep. Human beings also need sleep.
Animals have sex to procreate. Humans also have sex.
Animals defend themselves; they fight. Human beings also have to defend themselves.

Despite the similarities, there is a fundamental difference between human beings and animals. What is that difference?

The distinction between the human form of life and the animal form of life is not that humans sleep on beds and animals sleep on the ground; it’s not that humans walk on two legs and many animals walk on four legs; it’s not that humans eat at a dining table with utensils and napkins while animals just eat with their mouth to the ground in some way. Humans are not meant to simply be refined animals. There is a much deeper and meaningful difference between humans and animals.

Beyond the activities humans and animals have in common (eating, sleeping, mating, and defending), human beings have a fifth faculty: the intelligence to inquire into the truth of our existence:

Who am I?
Why am I here? What is the purpose of my existence?
Why am I suffering?
How can I liberate myself from this suffering condition?

It is this extraordinarily valuable ability to be introspective—to question the meaning and purpose of our existence and endeavor to find a solution to human suffering—that sets humans apart from animals.

To use a “muscle” analogy, a person who has very big muscles can pick up a 100-pound bag of rice. But a five-year old lacks the muscles to pick up that 100-pound bag. In the less evolved condition, when a person is in the animal form of life, he doesn’t have the spiritual muscles to be introspective and to make spiritual advancement.

If a person is born in the human form of life but doesn’t use that spiritual muscle—doesn’t take advantage of the opportunity to find answers to his identity and make spiritual advancement— then his muscles are wasted.

As human beings, we have the opportunity to use our intelligence to seek answers to essential questions such as “Who am I?” and “What is the purpose of life?” If we don’t use the human form of life to seek answers to these all-important questions—if we simply remain preoccupied with eating, sleeping, mating, and defending—then we will have wasted the opportunity inherent in the human form to realize our true identity and purpose and achieve genuine spiritual happiness.

why does everything have to be spiritual?

said the atheist.. chuckle.gif
failboat Show this Post
01-08-2015, 02:48 PM #15
failboat Incognito Anonymous
 
(01-07-2015, 08:29 PM)golden locks Wrote:  
Quote:why does everything have to be spiritual?


It doesn't.
As CA just described you can live a full satisfying life (just like the animals).
But we can choose to expand, And that's what makes it interesting. uhhuh.gif

well free will is an illusion. people prefer to be spiritual or religious because they're predestined to be that way.



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