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Doctor-Assisted Death in Canada
03-02-2016, 06:56 PM #16
Moe taters Member
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so to be the devil's advocate, does the government then start compensating for booze prohibition? maybe AL Capones family should be compensated.

The gov doesn't want to be seen as weak.
and to some, the acknowledgement they were wrong is an admission of weakness.
never really got that one..
03-02-2016, 07:01 PM #17
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Not unless you can prove your constitutional rights were violated, and from what I've witnessed in the courtrooms, when people tried, it was always total fail. The gov't has it all locked up.
03-02-2016, 07:50 PM #18
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The cards are stacked against you from word go.
It's all the same legitimized mafia horse hockey regardless of what country you reside in.
Judges are like politicians in regard to the fact that they give us the illusion of some control in our lives, when in fact , nothing could be further from the truth.
Justice is a concept, not a reality.

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03-02-2016, 07:58 PM #19
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Yes, JR, but I have also seen great compassion from judges, so it may dpend on the judge and how good a lawyer can you afford.

Well, I will be signing off the computer now as I am feeling well enough to do some house work. Bye for now.
03-03-2016, 09:30 AM #20
White Ribbon call me
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Hospitals euthanise people all the time. When they start turning up the morphine, its time to go bye bye.. And so they should. They kill foetuses, why not long suffering people?
03-03-2016, 10:24 AM #21
Ninelives I bite !!!
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Call me wrong if you will, a person that wants to die will die.

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03-03-2016, 08:07 PM #22
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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I understand that suicide is not an easy thing to do. Well, let's say a quick, pain-free suicide is difficult to achieve. Other than a gun to the brain, other methods such as poisoning are complicated in getting the right doses.
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03-06-2016, 01:02 AM #23
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(03-03-2016, 10:24 AM)Ninelives Wrote:  Call me wrong if you will, a person that wants to die will die.

Having witnessed the death after terminal illness of two family members and the miracle recovery of the third, I'd have to say that individual will is a HUGE factor.

I do not think you are wrong.
03-06-2016, 02:06 AM #24
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(03-03-2016, 09:30 AM)the white ribbon Wrote:  Hospitals euthanise people all the time. When they start turning up the morphine, its time to go bye bye.. And so they should. They kill foetuses, why not long suffering people?

I think so too. Death is part of living and we should have the authority to decide these things our self.
03-06-2016, 07:39 PM #25
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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It is being referred to as state-sponsored killing by the Catholic Bishops.

http://www.bccatholic.ca/canadian/6045-a...sia-report
03-06-2016, 08:01 PM #26
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From the above article....

Quote: It is morally unacceptable to describe hastened death as a treatment option or form of care.

It should be an option for the terminally ill. Unneeded suffering is morally unacceptable IMO.

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03-06-2016, 08:18 PM #27
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(03-06-2016, 08:01 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  From the above article....

Quote: It is morally unacceptable to describe hastened death as a treatment option or form of care.

It should be an option for the terminally ill. Unneeded suffering is morally unacceptable IMO.

And, if your doctor disagrees with euthanasia on moral/religious grounds he/she won't be respecting your wishes and won't refer you elsewhere.
03-08-2016, 08:33 PM #28
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Quote:The confidentiality order is necessary in order to ensure that the applicant, his family, physicians and other health care professionals, are not deterred from participating in a Carter application for fear of unwanted publicity and media attention," Justice McEwen said in his written decision on Monday.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ph...-1.3479341

Can you imagine the protests (and violence) that may ensue for those doctors and healthcare professionals if their identities were revealed. Remember what happened with Henry Morgentaler?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Morg...d_bombings
03-11-2016, 02:20 AM #29
Jim Rat Member
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(03-02-2016, 05:42 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  Yeah, he did. Damn Christians think it is better to make someone suffer than to go out on their own terms so they keep it illegal.

I said before, anytime you say "Christians are..." you're automatically wrong. I'm a Christian and I support the individual's choice over government mandate. As long as they're mentally stable, they have the choice.
03-11-2016, 02:28 AM #30
Jim Rat Member
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(03-02-2016, 06:50 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(03-02-2016, 06:39 PM)Moe taters Wrote:  
(03-02-2016, 06:18 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(03-02-2016, 06:12 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I suppose the best they can do then is to clear their records of any past criminal activity in those areas. dunno.gif

yeah but will they.
ppl are in jail cause of that.. i cant see them letting ppl out.
letting people out of jail admits that the system was wrong... will they every do that? doubt it.
also with "wrongful convictions" the next step is to try and receive compensation. and they will NOT give that either.

with the assisted suicide stuff... what about compensating people who had to watch their family suffer ?

obviously it's too much to expect the court\law system to react properly.

sorry if I drifted this sweet thread.
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If you think that is thread drift then you have a shock coming...we kb'ers are expert thread derailers.

If one was to sue the government, say for the marijuana thingie, could not one argue that it was government's fault when making MJ illegal that they forced a black market and criminality by taking away our constitutional rights to put whatever WE chose into OUR bodies? Just derailing with fantasy.

Maybe could find the answer in US history. After prohibition was lifted, was anyone let out of jail? Were any former bootleggers charged for activities during prohibition? You could probably research the answer, but I'm too lazy



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