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Don't Eat the Fish
06-15-2015, 05:35 PM #1
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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The Great Lakes is a toxic mess, so don't eat the fish (and don't drink the tap water?). sad2.gif

Quote:But as scientists learn more about the effects of toxic chemicals on the human body, and about how the substances work together in so-called "chemical soups," the worry over chemicals entering the food chain has grown.

For example, the report states that while researchers can isolate chemical residue from the tissues of Great Lakes fish and birds, they can identify only about a third of the substances they find.

06-15-2015, 05:37 PM #2
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Quote:Wynne announced she would sign two new agreements with Ohio and Michigan to combat invasive species and the threat of algae blooms in the Great Lakes.
She also suggested a regional partnership to fight climate change, and invited the U.S. states to join Ontario, Quebec and California in a so-called cap-and-trade system aimed at cutting greenhouse gases.


I don't see any discussion on dealing with hormones or chemicals in the Great Lakes. dunno.gif
06-15-2015, 06:44 PM #3
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It's a shame a precious resource has been ruined like this. 20% of the worlds fresh water supply basically lost.


06-15-2015, 07:00 PM #4
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Yes, it bothers me and I just had t get it out.
06-15-2015, 07:37 PM #5
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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The great lakes are a frustrating situation, and essentially nothing is being done.


06-15-2015, 07:57 PM #6
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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That's because nothing of any consequence can be done at this point.
06-15-2015, 07:57 PM #7
Coolchick Member
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thankfully i dont care for fish much.

Just Plain Nuts.
06-15-2015, 08:00 PM #8
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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There is nothing better tasting that a freshly caught Pickerel fan fried in salt and butter, well, at least that it what I remember from my childhood when my dad would come home from the boys' fishing trips with plenty o fish. People are still catching and eating GL fish even with the warnings.
06-15-2015, 08:13 PM #9
Octo Mother Superior
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We have a bad situation up here as well, the Baltic and its branches Gulf of Bothnia and Gulf of Finland are very polluted. The herring is so high in dioxins it can't be sold outside Finland by EU standards. But we can eat it damned.gif
06-15-2015, 09:01 PM #10
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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For those who want to catch and eat GL fish, there are some precautions you can take.

Quote:Reduce Your Risk:

Trimming and cooking off the fat can remove up to half the chemicals*
Choose smaller, younger fish that are lower in chemical contamination
Instead of catching and eating catfish or carp, try bluegill, perch, walleye, rock bass and black crappie
Fish in less contaminated waters
*Most chemicals are stored in the fat except for Mercury. Mercury cannot be removed from fish


How to Trim a Fish (also see diagram above):

Trim away fatty areas along backbone, sides and belly
Remove organs (liver and stomach) and head**
Remove the skin or poke holes in it to allow the fat to drain off
Bake, broil or grill the fish so the fat drips away
If you deep fry fish, use vegetable oil and discard after use
NOTE: Avoid eating fish organs, head or skin.

I am not sure choosing younger fish would be a good option, I mean, really, how will their populations grow if we eat their young?
06-16-2015, 01:53 PM #11
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I am afraid fish have become like hamburgers, everyone knows they are fast food and not healthy, but yet McDonald's and takeaways remain the busiest in the catering business. The most popular fish sold on the markets are Pangasius, raised in fish farms mostly in Vietnam. Have a look at the loads of websites on the subject, but be pre-advised that reading about the conditions of the waters may make you feel sick.

Probably next in line are chicken, but what should we eat?

“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.” ― David Mitchell
06-16-2015, 04:39 PM #12
US nli Incognito Anonymous
Quote:While the price of the burger has dropped to almost-reasonable prices, Post told ABC that it will still be another 20 to 30 years before it's commercially viable. Among the hurdles still left to overcome: figuring out how to produce test-tube meat at scale, and coming up with a way to produce it that doesn't use fetal calf serum (currently, cells are grown in the serum, which is taken from cow fetus blood).

And, of course, there's the biggest hurdle of all: convincing people to eat lab-grown meat.


Then there is eating insects as humans have done for thousands of years.


Quote:Put simply, our increasing reliance on factory-farmed meat is killing the planet.

This is perhaps where we are headed in the future.

Where there's a will, is there a way?
06-16-2015, 05:24 PM #13
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
When there's a will I want to be in it chuckle.gif
06-16-2015, 05:36 PM #14
Octo Mother Superior
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06-16-2015, 05:54 PM #15
US nli Incognito Anonymous



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