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EPA moves to regulate new wood stoves
09-27-2014, 03:09 PM #1
Gumby AKA Chtumby
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Quote:The Environmental Protection Agency moved Friday to curb emissions of particles and gases from residential wood stoves and other wood-fired heaters built in 2015 or later, an effort to combat pollutants that can present a significant health hazard in parts of the country.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/h...story.html

another quote from this article:

Quote:The new rules do not apply to wood heaters already in use or to residential fireplaces, backyard fire containers or fire pits used by campers and beachgoers. Nor do they apply to smokers, wood-fired barbecues or pizza ovens.

If you don't have these products already I would suggest getting them now. We had a five day power outage last winter and without Burn pits Fireplace and woodstove it would have been a worse nightmare than it already was.


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09-27-2014, 03:33 PM #2
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:12,782 Threads:1,182 Joined:Feb 2011
Crazy. Wood emits as much CO2 decomposing as it does burning.
09-27-2014, 03:36 PM #3
Accidental Stoner Member
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Baby steps towards the über-obvious goal.

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Open flame?
- Authorized gov personnel only!!!

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Finland to be a "tobacco free nation" by
2020-something. Bye bye, lighters, matches
etc etc.

İmage
09-27-2014, 03:49 PM #4
Gumby AKA Chtumby
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(09-27-2014, 03:33 PM)Shadow Wrote:  Crazy. Wood emits as much CO2 decomposing as it does burning.

Correct. We have a large piece of property with lots of trees, I don't cut anything down. There is enough deadfall each year, that I pick up and stack to get us through the winter.

The option we have to dispose of it, is take it to the dump at $30 per pickup truck load, and then they chip it up and sell it as mulch for $75 a pickup truck load.

What a scam.
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09-27-2014, 04:08 PM #5
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:12,782 Threads:1,182 Joined:Feb 2011
(09-27-2014, 03:36 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Finland to be a "tobacco free nation" by
2020-something.

Oh ffs rofl.gif If the gov is agin it I'm for it.
09-27-2014, 04:14 PM #6
Octo Mother Superior
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So fukn ridiculous gaah.gif
09-27-2014, 05:01 PM #7
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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(09-27-2014, 04:08 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(09-27-2014, 03:36 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Finland to be a "tobacco free nation" by
2020-something.

Oh ffs rofl.gif If the gov is agin it I'm for it.

If it's something from Finland, I wouldn't pay too much attention. Octo and I were reading some complementary material on an airline, and one of their stated goals was they are "working toward a carbon free future."
I hope everyone can grasp and fully appreciate the implication of that, and realize in your hearts, just how ƒükkêd we truly are if they get their way.

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09-28-2014, 11:20 AM #8
Accidental Stoner Member
Posts:8,800 Threads:70 Joined:Feb 2011
(09-27-2014, 05:01 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(09-27-2014, 04:08 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(09-27-2014, 03:36 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Finland to be a "tobacco free nation" by
2020-something.

Oh ffs rofl.gif If the gov is agin it I'm for it.

If it's something from Finland, I wouldn't pay too much attention. Octo and I were reading some complementary material on an airline, and one of their stated goals was they are "working toward a carbon free future."
I hope everyone can grasp and fully appreciate the implication of that, and realize in your hearts, just how fekked we truly are if they get their way.

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It is official gov policy:

http://yle.fi/uutiset/a_smoke-free_finla...40/7326109

They keep delaying the deadline, though...
I swear earlier propaganda said 2020-something, not 2040 13.gif
Slackers!

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09-28-2014, 12:16 PM #9
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
Posts:31,272 Threads:1,438 Joined:Feb 2011
(09-28-2014, 11:20 AM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  
(09-27-2014, 05:01 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(09-27-2014, 04:08 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(09-27-2014, 03:36 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Finland to be a "tobacco free nation" by
2020-something.

Oh ffs rofl.gif If the gov is agin it I'm for it.


If it's something from Finland, I wouldn't pay too much attention. Octo and I were reading some complementary material on an airline, and one of their stated goals was they are "working toward a carbon free future."
I hope everyone can grasp and fully appreciate the implication of that, and realize in your hearts, just how fekked we truly are if they get their way.

lmao.gif

It is official gov policy:

http://yle.fi/uutiset/a_smoke-free_finla...40/7326109

They keep delaying the deadline, though...
I swear earlier propaganda said 2020-something, not 2040 13.gif
Slackers!

chuckle.gif

They are always trying to regulate something, you have to love it when it backfires in their faces.
They raised the alcohol tax so high, that they have lost millions in revenue to Estonia. Like most places, lawmakers are just sucking down a corporate protein shake and could give a shït less about average people.
I hope there is a very special place in hell for those types.

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09-28-2014, 12:17 PM #10
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,587 Threads:1,469 Joined:Feb 2011
Yeah it seems it was 2020 a while back 13.gif Oh well, someone around here is producing snus with locally grown tobacco so it's all good. chuckle.gif
09-29-2014, 03:43 AM #11
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,881 Threads:420 Joined:Jun 2012
(09-27-2014, 03:33 PM)Shadow Wrote:  Crazy. Wood emits as much CO2 decomposing as it does burning.

It sure looks that way. Unless we are now burning more wood than is being reforested.

http://www.extension.org/pages/43735/wha...CiqOvldWSo


http://www.globalforestwatch.org/
09-29-2014, 12:47 PM #12
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,587 Threads:1,469 Joined:Feb 2011
I just read an interesting article about wood burning and the antioxidants released in the smoke blink.gif

http://publications.lib.chalmers.se/reco..._72575.pdf
09-29-2014, 01:59 PM #13
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,881 Threads:420 Joined:Jun 2012
Quote:Domestic wood burning seems to increase personal exposure to 1,3-butadiene as well as indoor levels of 1,3-butadiene and benzene and possibly also acetaldehyde. The cancer risk from these compounds at exposure to wood smoke is, however, estimated to be low in developed countries.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17213939
09-29-2014, 02:47 PM #14
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,587 Threads:1,469 Joined:Feb 2011
I read in that Swedish study that the majority of benzene comes from combustion engines, i.e. traffic, about ten times the amount compared to wood burning. But the amount of particles released burning wood varies a lot depending on at what temperature your fire burns and also the temperature the smoke is released into.
09-29-2014, 02:53 PM #15
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,881 Threads:420 Joined:Jun 2012
Yes, there are many factors in regards to how to burn a fire properly as specified in the link below.

Quote:Cleaner heating devices like EPA-certified wood burning stoves burn more efficiently than older models. This means that much less creosote builds up in your chimney. EPA stoves also release 60 to 80% less smoke up your chimney, a good selling point to those who are environmentally conscious and concerned about air pollution.

http://copd.about.com/od/livingwithcop1/...stoves.htm

http://www.epa.gov/burnwise/pdfs/kitfacts.pdf



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