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04-30-2013, 10:13 PM #61
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(04-30-2013, 10:04 PM)JollyRoger Wrote:  ???

Our lands are not devastated here... ??

You are only seeing it from ground level a mile at a time. Take an airplane ride over the State. It's mostly all forests, lakes, rivers, streams, canyons, desert, meadows.... We have it all here and the population centers are closer to the River mouths and Puget Sound and Gray's Harbor, etc. The rest is pretty much pristine old growth forest.


I drove from BC to WA, SEast through WA and OR to Baker City straight across to the West Coast on hwy 7 and then N to WA and back to BC. I'm a silvicuturist (silva=tree, culture=to grow) re-forestation is my profession. I know what I saw.
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04-30-2013, 10:24 PM #62
JollyRoger Incognito Anonymous
 
(04-30-2013, 10:13 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(04-30-2013, 10:04 PM)JollyRoger Wrote:  ???

Our lands are not devastated here... ??

You are only seeing it from ground level a mile at a time. Take an airplane ride over the State. It's mostly all forests, lakes, rivers, streams, canyons, desert, meadows.... We have it all here and the population centers are closer to the River mouths and Puget Sound and Gray's Harbor, etc. The rest is pretty much pristine old growth forest.


I drove from BC to WA, SEast through WA and OR to Baker City straight across to the West Coast on hwy 7 and then N to WA and back to BC. I'm a silvicuturist (silva=tree, culture=to grow) re-forestation is my profession. I know what I saw.


..... I live here.....
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04-30-2013, 10:26 PM #63
JollyRoger Incognito Anonymous
 
Also, most deforested lands are replanted by the owners, because that's what they do for a living. No, they aren't required to do it, but they do. They farm trees.
04-30-2013, 10:41 PM #64
Cynicalabsurdance Member
Posts:8,251 Threads:191 Joined:Feb 2011
try this

this country known as america

is owned by Red People

pay your ğkking damages and get the ğck out .

the trees belong to the Earth not to people

you ğkking came here 500 years ago and ,,,

ƒükkêd IT TO DEATH !

NOW GET THE ğck OUT !

7 billion ğkking people ?

oh yeah , i can see where people are rare and matter ,,, NOT

millions of red people lived here

they did not clear cut for profit .


need a home ?

head east or west across the Sea

take your greed with you
and your laws

and your meds

and go .

04-30-2013, 11:08 PM #65
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,881 Threads:420 Joined:Jun 2012
Quote:Here in the United States, we’ve cut 98 percent of our old growth forests down. There’s only 2 percent left. And we never studied them.

Good news .... David Milarch:
His story was chronicled in last year's The Man Who Planted Trees: Lost Groves, Champion Trees, and an Urgent Plan to Save the Planet, by science writer Jim Robbins.
Quote:and

Clones of coastal redwood trees in the Archangel Ancient Tree Archive laboratory in Copemish, Mich. The nonprofit group hopes to plant millions of genetic copies of ancient redwoods around the world.

http://www.weather.com/news/science/natu...g-20130424[/quote]

Archangel photos:

http://www.ancienttreearchive.org/photos/
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05-01-2013, 12:15 AM #66
JollyRoger Incognito Anonymous
 
(04-30-2013, 10:41 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  try this

this country known as america

is owned by Red People

pay your ğkking damages and get the ğck out .

the trees belong to the Earth not to people

you ğkking came here 500 years ago and ,,,

ƒükkêd IT TO DEATH !

NOW GET THE ğck OUT !

7 billion ğkking people ?

oh yeah , i can see where people are rare and matter ,,, NOT

millions of red people lived here

they did not clear cut for profit .


need a home ?

head east or west across the Sea

take your greed with you
and your laws

and your meds

and go .


No.
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05-01-2013, 12:17 AM #67
JollyRoger Incognito Anonymous
 
(04-30-2013, 10:41 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  try this

this country known as america

is owned by Red People

pay your ğkking damages and get the ğck out .

the trees belong to the Earth not to people

you ğkking came here 500 years ago and ,,,

ƒükkêd IT TO DEATH !

NOW GET THE ğck OUT !

7 billion ğkking people ?

oh yeah , i can see where people are rare and matter ,,, NOT

millions of red people lived here

they did not clear cut for profit .


need a home ?

head east or west across the Sea

take your greed with you
and your laws

and your meds

and go .


You said, "this country known as america

is owned by Red People".

Then you said, "the trees belong to the Earth not to people"

If this is true, the "Reds" don't own this land either like you claim.
Contradiction much?
05-01-2013, 03:45 AM #68
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
Posts:12,782 Threads:1,182 Joined:Feb 2011
(04-30-2013, 10:24 PM)JollyRoger Wrote:  
(04-30-2013, 10:13 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(04-30-2013, 10:04 PM)JollyRoger Wrote:  ???

Our lands are not devastated here... ??

You are only seeing it from ground level a mile at a time. Take an airplane ride over the State. It's mostly all forests, lakes, rivers, streams, canyons, desert, meadows.... We have it all here and the population centers are closer to the River mouths and Puget Sound and Gray's Harbor, etc. The rest is pretty much pristine old growth forest.


I drove from BC to WA, SEast through WA and OR to Baker City straight across to the West Coast on hwy 7 and then N to WA and back to BC. I'm a silvicuturist (silva=tree, culture=to grow) re-forestation is my profession. I know what I saw.


..... I live here.....


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05-01-2013, 04:10 AM #69
オタマジャクシ Member
Posts:1,310 Threads:32 Joined:Nov 2012
People tend to harvest trees near roads so that isn't a great way to get a representative sample.

Putting out tire tacks and nailing trees is terrorism. Hitting a nail with a chain saw can be all kinds of ugly.

The Greenpiece whatever ship was interfering with whaling ships at sea. That is technically piracy.

If environmentalists have to use terrorism and piracy to accomplish their ends...., I am a little dubious that they are serving a just cause.

If the environmentalists were that serious about the old growth forests being permanent sanctuaries they would buy them from the owners. If they put up half the value of areas of national forest I would go halfsies with them and retire the acreage.

That's not what they want. They want other people to give up their property rights and money for their goals.

That's bullshit. The government does too many illegal takings to please the selfish and self righteous.
05-01-2013, 04:16 AM #70
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,604 Threads:1,469 Joined:Feb 2011
(05-01-2013, 04:10 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  Hitting a nail with a chain saw can be all kinds of ugly.


Yes I noticed that too, but not as messy as cutting up a young bull with a chainsaw. Just saying.
05-01-2013, 04:40 AM #71
オタマジャクシ Member
Posts:1,310 Threads:32 Joined:Nov 2012
(05-01-2013, 04:16 AM)Octo Wrote:  
(05-01-2013, 04:10 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  Hitting a nail with a chain saw can be all kinds of ugly.


Yes I noticed that too, but not as messy as cutting up a young bull with a chainsaw. Just saying.


That depends on if you are talking young bull or fresh bull. One is fairly gruesome and the other gets you kicked out of the house.

Speaking of banned from the house... My grandpa was a real teamster who would go logging during the winter. Hygiene was somewhere between bad and lousy. She put out two big water basins when he got back in the spring. One was full of hot water for him. The other was full of boiling water for his clothing. He didn't get to go into the house until he was thoroughly clean.
05-01-2013, 04:52 AM #72
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:42,604 Threads:1,469 Joined:Feb 2011
I refuse to believe your Grandpa was a she, but I worked at a farm and hell yes it was fresh bull. Yes I ate it!



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