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08-01-2013, 05:15 PM #16
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(08-01-2013, 05:08 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 04:42 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 06:56 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-31-2013, 10:53 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  http://www.pepijnvanerp.nl/2013/05/fake-...s-malaria/

Hmmmm...I'm not sure about all of this. I'd like to see a U.S. Food and Drug Admin. study on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02kvmmDLw7c

What he had to say was interesting, but he is not a medical doctor nor a scientist.


Ummm... you must have missed the link I provided to the FDA?


I don't consider a safety alert to be an in-depth study, I want to review studies so that I can make my own determination. As for the only one? study done with this concoction in Africa, how do we know all 154 people actually had the malaria virus? It's all too sketchy for me.


The FDA isn't about to conduct a "safety study" on something they have already determined is toxic enough to issue a warning alert for.

Either you consider the two video docs about it as they present it or you consider it a hoax.

...I don't think it's a hoax and I think part of the "toxicity" is how this stuff works to cure.

It sounds like it is dangerous stuff if not taken properly and mishandled. Many poisons are know to have benefits when taken in small doses.


As I stated previously, I am on the fence with this concoction because we are all chemically and hormonally different from one another, so studies comprising large segments of various different populations with in-depth variances within those populations, over a very long period of time, is what I would like to see.
08-01-2013, 05:15 PM #17
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08-02-2013, 07:11 AM #18
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(08-01-2013, 05:15 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 05:08 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 04:42 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 06:56 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-31-2013, 10:53 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  http://www.pepijnvanerp.nl/2013/05/fake-...s-malaria/

Hmmmm...I'm not sure about all of this. I'd like to see a U.S. Food and Drug Admin. study on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02kvmmDLw7c

What he had to say was interesting, but he is not a medical doctor nor a scientist.





Ummm... you must have missed the link I provided to the FDA?


I don't consider a safety alert to be an in-depth study, I want to review studies so that I can make my own determination. As for the only one? study done with this concoction in Africa, how do we know all 154 people actually had the malaria virus? It's all too sketchy for me.


The FDA isn't about to conduct a "safety study" on something they have already determined is toxic enough to issue a warning alert for.

Either you consider the two video docs about it as they present it or you consider it a hoax.

...I don't think it's a hoax and I think part of the "toxicity" is how this stuff works to cure.

It sounds like it is dangerous stuff if not taken properly and mishandled. Many poisons are know to have benefits when taken in small doses.


As I stated previously, I am on the fence with this concoction because we are all chemically and hormonally different from one another, so studies comprising large segments of various different populations with in-depth variances within those populations, over a very long period of time, is what I would like to see.


The million children who die from malaria each year don't really have the time for all the riggamarole you need to please your own criteria.

Every doctor in the world accepts that scurvy can be cured by eating citrus.

The Cure for scurvy was determined based on two patients. TWO PATIENTS!

But it wasn't accepted by many for over 50 years.

In the field study using MMS 154 patients had slides made from blood samples where they found parasites in the blood and then after 24 to 48 hours they found none.

No one was made ill by the treatment.

Why not use it widely until it's determined to be a problem. They don't have anything else that works as well, so it's not as if the patients are being deprived of some superior treatment..

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08-02-2013, 01:52 PM #19
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(08-02-2013, 07:11 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 05:15 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 05:08 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 04:42 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 06:56 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  Ummm... you must have missed the link I provided to the FDA?


I don't consider a safety alert to be an in-depth study, I want to review studies so that I can make my own determination. As for the only one? study done with this concoction in Africa, how do we know all 154 people actually had the malaria virus? It's all too sketchy for me.


The FDA isn't about to conduct a "safety study" on something they have already determined is toxic enough to issue a warning alert for.

Either you consider the two video docs about it as they present it or you consider it a hoax.

...I don't think it's a hoax and I think part of the "toxicity" is how this stuff works to cure.

It sounds like it is dangerous stuff if not taken properly and mishandled. Many poisons are know to have benefits when taken in small doses.


As I stated previously, I am on the fence with this concoction because we are all chemically and hormonally different from one another, so studies comprising large segments of various different populations with in-depth variances within those populations, over a very long period of time, is what I would like to see.


The million children who die from malaria each year don't really have the time for all the riggamarole you need to please your own criteria.

Every doctor in the world accepts that scurvy can be cured by eating citrus.

The Cure for scurvy was determined based on two patients. TWO PATIENTS!

But it wasn't accepted by many for over 50 years.

In the field study using MMS 154 patients had slides made from blood samples where they found parasites in the blood and then after 24 to 48 hours they found none.

No one was made ill by the treatment.

Why not use it widely until it's determined to be a problem. They don't have anything else that works as well, so it's not as if the patients are being deprived of some superior treatment..


Ever wonder why the FDA has warned people not to take this concoction? What I am saying is that I want to see proper studies conducted as to how it works, and proper doses, etc.

You say "No one was made ill by the treatment"... and no followups were conducted either. So, we really don't know much about the important scientific issues of MMS. How do they know what doses to give children, etc. It's sad that people are so desperate that they have no choice but to take these scientifically unknown concoctions.

"Severe Reactions
FDA has received several reports of consumers who got sick from drinking the MMS and citrus juice mixture. The reports say consumers suffered from nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration."

http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Consumer...228052.htm
08-02-2013, 09:14 PM #20
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(08-02-2013, 01:52 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-02-2013, 07:11 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 05:15 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 05:08 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 04:42 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I don't consider a safety alert to be an in-depth study, I want to review studies so that I can make my own determination. As for the only one? study done with this concoction in Africa, how do we know all 154 people actually had the malaria virus? It's all too sketchy for me.


The FDA isn't about to conduct a "safety study" on something they have already determined is toxic enough to issue a warning alert for.

Either you consider the two video docs about it as they present it or you consider it a hoax.

...I don't think it's a hoax and I think part of the "toxicity" is how this stuff works to cure.

It sounds like it is dangerous stuff if not taken properly and mishandled. Many poisons are know to have benefits when taken in small doses.


As I stated previously, I am on the fence with this concoction because we are all chemically and hormonally different from one another, so studies comprising large segments of various different populations with in-depth variances within those populations, over a very long period of time, is what I would like to see.


The million children who die from malaria each year don't really have the time for all the riggamarole you need to please your own criteria.

Every doctor in the world accepts that scurvy can be cured by eating citrus.

The Cure for scurvy was determined based on two patients. TWO PATIENTS!

But it wasn't accepted by many for over 50 years.

In the field study using MMS 154 patients had slides made from blood samples where they found parasites in the blood and then after 24 to 48 hours they found none.

No one was made ill by the treatment.

Why not use it widely until it's determined to be a problem. They don't have anything else that works as well, so it's not as if the patients are being deprived of some superior treatment..


Ever wonder why the FDA has warned people not to take this concoction? What I am saying is that I want to see proper studies conducted as to how it works, and proper doses, etc.

You say "No one was made ill by the treatment"... and no followups were conducted either. So, we really don't know much about the important scientific issues of MMS. How do they know what doses to give children, etc. It's sad that people are so desperate that they have no choice but to take these scientifically unknown concoctions.

"Severe Reactions
FDA has received several reports of consumers who got sick from drinking the MMS and citrus juice mixture. The reports say consumers suffered from nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration."

http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Consumer...228052.htm


Did it occur to you that the FDA is a thoroughly corrupt gang of thugs, because that is what they are.

The drugs they approve calling them SAFE (ROFLMAO) kill about a half million people each and every year and put another 2 million in the hospital.

The FDA's opinions about anything are not to be trusted in the least. If they say something is white - it's black, and vice versa.

Never, ever, ever rely on their opinion about anything. Their job is to protect the drug companies and to smash anyone or anything that threatens drug company profits.


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08-02-2013, 09:23 PM #21
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(08-02-2013, 01:52 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-02-2013, 07:11 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 05:15 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 05:08 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 04:42 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I don't consider a safety alert to be an in-depth study, I want to review studies so that I can make my own determination. As for the only one? study done with this concoction in Africa, how do we know all 154 people actually had the malaria virus? It's all too sketchy for me.


The FDA isn't about to conduct a "safety study" on something they have already determined is toxic enough to issue a warning alert for.

Either you consider the two video docs about it as they present it or you consider it a hoax.

...I don't think it's a hoax and I think part of the "toxicity" is how this stuff works to cure.

It sounds like it is dangerous stuff if not taken properly and mishandled. Many poisons are know to have benefits when taken in small doses.


As I stated previously, I am on the fence with this concoction because we are all chemically and hormonally different from one another, so studies comprising large segments of various different populations with in-depth variances within those populations, over a very long period of time, is what I would like to see.


The million children who die from malaria each year don't really have the time for all the riggamarole you need to please your own criteria.

Every doctor in the world accepts that scurvy can be cured by eating citrus.

The Cure for scurvy was determined based on two patients. TWO PATIENTS!

But it wasn't accepted by many for over 50 years.

In the field study using MMS 154 patients had slides made from blood samples where they found parasites in the blood and then after 24 to 48 hours they found none.

No one was made ill by the treatment.

Why not use it widely until it's determined to be a problem. They don't have anything else that works as well, so it's not as if the patients are being deprived of some superior treatment..


Ever wonder why the FDA has warned people not to take this concoction? What I am saying is that I want to see proper studies conducted as to how it works, and proper doses, etc.

You say "No one was made ill by the treatment"... and no followups were conducted either. So, we really don't know much about the important scientific issues of MMS. How do they know what doses to give children, etc. It's sad that people are so desperate that they have no choice but to take these scientifically unknown concoctions.

"Severe Reactions
FDA has received several reports of consumers who got sick from drinking the MMS and citrus juice mixture. The reports say consumers suffered from nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration."

http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Consumer...228052.htm


Why are you ignoring the obvious? 154 people were found thru microscopic blood tests to have malaria parasites. But all 154 were clear of malaria parasites in one or two days again based on microscopic testing of the blood.

No one was made sick - all were made well. Yet you have this phantom fear that something bad might happen although there is zero evidence of it. So apparently the dosage administered was the correct dose.

If they didn't get the MMS some of them would have died by now while you are worrying whether the dosage they got was safe or not.

As for follow up. Malaria is contracted via mosquito bites. All 154 could get bitten again and need to be treated again. So 'follow up' is rather pointless.

There isn't any evidence of a delayed reaction from MMS.

Any harm comes from using way too much. Obviously huiman beings being what we are, there are always clowns who figure if a little is good, more will be better. That sort of result really doesn't impact the results seen in the Uganda field trial.

Pray for me. hug.gif
08-03-2013, 06:00 AM #22
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(08-02-2013, 09:23 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(08-02-2013, 01:52 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-02-2013, 07:11 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 05:15 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 05:08 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  The FDA isn't about to conduct a "safety study" on something they have already determined is toxic enough to issue a warning alert for.

Either you consider the two video docs about it as they present it or you consider it a hoax.

...I don't think it's a hoax and I think part of the "toxicity" is how this stuff works to cure.

It sounds like it is dangerous stuff if not taken properly and mishandled. Many poisons are know to have benefits when taken in small doses.


As I stated previously, I am on the fence with this concoction because we are all chemically and hormonally different from one another, so studies comprising large segments of various different populations with in-depth variances within those populations, over a very long period of time, is what I would like to see.


The million children who die from malaria each year don't really have the time for all the riggamarole you need to please your own criteria.

Every doctor in the world accepts that scurvy can be cured by eating citrus.

The Cure for scurvy was determined based on two patients. TWO PATIENTS!

But it wasn't accepted by many for over 50 years.

In the field study using MMS 154 patients had slides made from blood samples where they found parasites in the blood and then after 24 to 48 hours they found none.

No one was made ill by the treatment.

Why not use it widely until it's determined to be a problem. They don't have anything else that works as well, so it's not as if the patients are being deprived of some superior treatment..


Ever wonder why the FDA has warned people not to take this concoction? What I am saying is that I want to see proper studies conducted as to how it works, and proper doses, etc.

You say "No one was made ill by the treatment"... and no followups were conducted either. So, we really don't know much about the important scientific issues of MMS. How do they know what doses to give children, etc. It's sad that people are so desperate that they have no choice but to take these scientifically unknown concoctions.

"Severe Reactions
FDA has received several reports of consumers who got sick from drinking the MMS and citrus juice mixture. The reports say consumers suffered from nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration."

http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Consumer...228052.htm


Why are you ignoring the obvious? 154 people were found thru microscopic blood tests to have malaria parasites. But all 154 were clear of malaria parasites in one or two days again based on microscopic testing of the blood.

No one was made sick - all were made well. Yet you have this phantom fear that something bad might happen although there is zero evidence of it. So apparently the dosage administered was the correct dose.

If they didn't get the MMS some of them would have died by now while you are worrying whether the dosage they got was safe or not.

As for follow up. Malaria is contracted via mosquito bites. All 154 could get bitten again and need to be treated again. So 'follow up' is rather pointless.

There isn't any evidence of a delayed reaction from MMS.

Any harm comes from using way too much. Obviously huiman beings being what we are, there are always clowns who figure if a little is good, more will be better. That sort of result really doesn't impact the results seen in the Uganda field trial.


If they can get malaria again, then MMS is not a cure. Then they are pumping, essentially, bleach into their system...over and over again. Not good in my thinking.
08-03-2013, 09:55 AM #23
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Posts:1,792 Threads:137 Joined:Apr 2013
(08-03-2013, 06:00 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-02-2013, 09:23 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(08-02-2013, 01:52 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-02-2013, 07:11 AM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(08-01-2013, 05:15 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  As I stated previously, I am on the fence with this concoction because we are all chemically and hormonally different from one another, so studies comprising large segments of various different populations with in-depth variances within those populations, over a very long period of time, is what I would like to see.


The million children who die from malaria each year don't really have the time for all the riggamarole you need to please your own criteria.

Every doctor in the world accepts that scurvy can be cured by eating citrus.

The Cure for scurvy was determined based on two patients. TWO PATIENTS!

But it wasn't accepted by many for over 50 years.

In the field study using MMS 154 patients had slides made from blood samples where they found parasites in the blood and then after 24 to 48 hours they found none.

No one was made ill by the treatment.

Why not use it widely until it's determined to be a problem. They don't have anything else that works as well, so it's not as if the patients are being deprived of some superior treatment..


Ever wonder why the FDA has warned people not to take this concoction? What I am saying is that I want to see proper studies conducted as to how it works, and proper doses, etc.

You say "No one was made ill by the treatment"... and no followups were conducted either. So, we really don't know much about the important scientific issues of MMS. How do they know what doses to give children, etc. It's sad that people are so desperate that they have no choice but to take these scientifically unknown concoctions.

"Severe Reactions
FDA has received several reports of consumers who got sick from drinking the MMS and citrus juice mixture. The reports say consumers suffered from nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration."

http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Consumer...228052.htm


Why are you ignoring the obvious? 154 people were found thru microscopic blood tests to have malaria parasites. But all 154 were clear of malaria parasites in one or two days again based on microscopic testing of the blood.

No one was made sick - all were made well. Yet you have this phantom fear that something bad might happen although there is zero evidence of it. So apparently the dosage administered was the correct dose.

If they didn't get the MMS some of them would have died by now while you are worrying whether the dosage they got was safe or not.

As for follow up. Malaria is contracted via mosquito bites. All 154 could get bitten again and need to be treated again. So 'follow up' is rather pointless.

There isn't any evidence of a delayed reaction from MMS.

Any harm comes from using way too much. Obviously huiman beings being what we are, there are always clowns who figure if a little is good, more will be better. That sort of result really doesn't impact the results seen in the Uganda field trial.


If they can get malaria again, then MMS is not a cure. Then they are pumping, essentially, bleach into their system...over and over again. Not good in my thinking.


MMS is not bleach when it is combined the citric acid any more than salt is bleach. Salt is comprised of sodium and CHLORIDE. Yet salt 'bleach' is essential to health and life itself.

If the MMS is getting rid of an active case of malaria, it is a cure. If a person has a cold and eats, say chicken soup, and gets well they are cured of the cold even though they might get another cold next year.

The alternative is that they could die from the malaria as 1.2 million people do each year including a million children. Nothing else is curing them, so why not continue and expand the program until something better comes along?

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