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FLORIDA: Bible, schmible - this man exorcised demons with a frying pan and a pipe!
07-18-2018, 10:25 PM #16
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Has it ever been studied that it may be the power of suggestion/mass hysteria taken to the limit, both spiritually and religiously?
07-18-2018, 11:07 PM #17
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jr has had real experiences with ghosts & a demon
i have had real experiences with devil,demons and someone not quite passed over,among other thangs
if you want to think otherwize,go for it

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07-19-2018, 12:44 AM #18
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..most people will never realize that there's more than meets the eye in this world & the beyond

There are three classes of people: those who see, those who see when they are shown, those who do not see.- Leonardo da Vinci

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07-19-2018, 09:07 AM #19
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(07-19-2018, 12:44 AM)-NIGHTMARE- Wrote:  ..most people will never realize that there's more than meets the eye in this world & the beyond

There are three classes of people: those who see, those who see when they are shown, those who do not see.- Leonardo da Vinci

Yes, most people are walking around with proverbial blinders on.
If they do have some profound experience they tend to dismiss it instead of opening their eyes.
Great da Vinci quote hi5.gif He was far ahead of his time.

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07-19-2018, 01:08 PM #20
neel Incognito Anonymous
 
(07-18-2018, 04:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I can't say because I've never had to live with a demon, so I don't know if ignoring it is possible or not. Don't they feed off fear or negative emotions? Wouldn't ignoring them not feed the devil, so to speak?

Just got an update, after months the second woman and my son's cl wife are going to try the sage cleansing today - just coincidental that's happening and I'm posting about it now?  Divine intervention or satanbitch.gif

damned.gif I'm freaking myself out here.

Anyway, can anyone confirm how to sage cleanse a home. What I instructed them to do is to open all doors and windows in the house, then start in the basement and work their way up into the attic, right up into the attic.

"I can't say because I've never had to live with a demon, so I don't know if ignoring it is possible or not. Don't they feed off fear or negative emotions? Wouldn't ignoring them not feed the devil, so to speak?"

Difficult to figure out their craft to tell you the truth and I don't believe it's all reciprocal/echo. All "family" members; I live with one. Probably archontic actors. It can get there spiritually...depends on what they're doing and the amount of lies they're telling about it.

You want a demon shadowing you and doing black magic against you in your own damn house? Probably not. String of bad luck in your life? You have that but can't perceive it. You can only see it in the Spirit (middle) otherwise you only see the effects.
07-19-2018, 01:49 PM #21
Strigoi Diavolul
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(07-19-2018, 01:08 PM)neel Wrote:  
(07-18-2018, 04:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I can't say because I've never had to live with a demon, so I don't know if ignoring it is possible or not. Don't they feed off fear or negative emotions? Wouldn't ignoring them not feed the devil, so to speak?

Just got an update, after months the second woman and my son's cl wife are going to try the sage cleansing today - just coincidental that's happening and I'm posting about it now?  Divine intervention or satanbitch.gif

damned.gif I'm freaking myself out here.

Anyway, can anyone confirm how to sage cleanse a home. What I instructed them to do is to open all doors and windows in the house, then start in the basement and work their way up into the attic, right up into the attic.

"I can't say because I've never had to live with a demon, so I don't know if ignoring it is possible or not. Don't they feed off fear or negative emotions? Wouldn't ignoring them not feed the devil, so to speak?"

Difficult to figure out their craft to tell you the truth and I don't believe it's all reciprocal/echo.  All "family" members; I live with one.  Probably archontic actors.  It can get there spiritually...depends on what they're doing and the amount of lies they're telling about it.  

You want a demon shadowing you and doing black magic against you in your own damn house?  Probably not.  String of bad luck in your life?  You have that but can't perceive it.  You can only see it in the Spirit (middle) otherwise you only see the effects.

Hold on, they were a Gnostic Christian sect, are you implying they do something to cause demonic entities to attach to them? Am I following?

Un Strigoi printre noi
07-20-2018, 12:11 PM #22
neel Incognito Anonymous
 
(07-19-2018, 01:49 PM)Strigoi Wrote:  
(07-19-2018, 01:08 PM)neel Wrote:  
(07-18-2018, 04:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I can't say because I've never had to live with a demon, so I don't know if ignoring it is possible or not. Don't they feed off fear or negative emotions? Wouldn't ignoring them not feed the devil, so to speak?

Just got an update, after months the second woman and my son's cl wife are going to try the sage cleansing today - just coincidental that's happening and I'm posting about it now?  Divine intervention or satanbitch.gif

damned.gif I'm freaking myself out here.

Anyway, can anyone confirm how to sage cleanse a home. What I instructed them to do is to open all doors and windows in the house, then start in the basement and work their way up into the attic, right up into the attic.

"I can't say because I've never had to live with a demon, so I don't know if ignoring it is possible or not. Don't they feed off fear or negative emotions? Wouldn't ignoring them not feed the devil, so to speak?"

Difficult to figure out their craft to tell you the truth and I don't believe it's all reciprocal/echo.  All "family" members; I live with one.  Probably archontic actors.  It can get there spiritually...depends on what they're doing and the amount of lies they're telling about it.  

You want a demon shadowing you and doing black magic against you in your own damn house?  Probably not.  String of bad luck in your life?  You have that but can't perceive it.  You can only see it in the Spirit (middle) otherwise you only see the effects.

Hold on, they were a Gnostic Christian sect, are you implying they do something to cause demonic entities to attach to them? Am I following?

Archon=fallen spirit (elohim=fallen and unfallen Gods). It's in the new age mythology that they will imitate/be imposters of relatives to try and make you reincarnate into the environment. It might be something similar to that.

As in: a demon (fallen thought/archetype) uses your mental image of the person to try and engineer an outcome/replicate themselves into their "planned" new identity for you. I can vouch for that in this (gangstalking). It's in the NT if you understand the spiritual.

You will only understand these things if you know just about everything.

Gnostic doctrine is correct regarding the demiurge to what I've read but also requires knowing/experience. Humans will always have fallen spirit attachments/demonic attacks because it's a fallen world...basis for the flesh world in full is fallen because it requires black rock to produce the dimensions when astral light is filtered through it (like the floyd album color). If you're in the flesh, you are in a fallen world. Black rock means little to no light in the pineal gland of the host (God). GOD is something far different.

Maybe I'm mistaken about the concept of the black rock (it might have to do with fallen "living stones"). They make implications with the white stones and the black stones (also in the bible).

Spiritual stuff will drive you crazy by their intent...they intend to do it "break the stone" so to speak. Shatter your faith but the faith they shatter is only in the one pretending to be GOD.

I checked to respond to this. These things are very real and there is no real "rulebook" for it.
07-20-2018, 12:42 PM #23
Strigoi Diavolul
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Thanks for the unexpectedly thorough response. The esoteric/spirit world/other side takes a lifetime of study to get a glimpse of it. It's all on a very different level.

Un Strigoi printre noi
07-21-2018, 07:42 AM #24
Sandy Incognito Anonymous
 
Great interesting thread bump.gif
07-21-2018, 08:01 AM #25
Sandy Incognito Anonymous
 
I use it for a desktop background and stare at it all day.
07-21-2018, 09:06 AM #26
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rofl.gif Good times.
07-23-2018, 04:24 PM #27
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(07-20-2018, 12:11 PM)neel Wrote:  
(07-19-2018, 01:49 PM)Strigoi Wrote:  
(07-19-2018, 01:08 PM)neel Wrote:  
(07-18-2018, 04:44 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  I can't say because I've never had to live with a demon, so I don't know if ignoring it is possible or not. Don't they feed off fear or negative emotions? Wouldn't ignoring them not feed the devil, so to speak?

Just got an update, after months the second woman and my son's cl wife are going to try the sage cleansing today - just coincidental that's happening and I'm posting about it now?  Divine intervention or satanbitch.gif

damned.gif I'm freaking myself out here.

Anyway, can anyone confirm how to sage cleanse a home. What I instructed them to do is to open all doors and windows in the house, then start in the basement and work their way up into the attic, right up into the attic.

"I can't say because I've never had to live with a demon, so I don't know if ignoring it is possible or not. Don't they feed off fear or negative emotions? Wouldn't ignoring them not feed the devil, so to speak?"

Difficult to figure out their craft to tell you the truth and I don't believe it's all reciprocal/echo.  All "family" members; I live with one.  Probably archontic actors.  It can get there spiritually...depends on what they're doing and the amount of lies they're telling about it.  

You want a demon shadowing you and doing black magic against you in your own damn house?  Probably not.  String of bad luck in your life?  You have that but can't perceive it.  You can only see it in the Spirit (middle) otherwise you only see the effects.

Hold on, they were a Gnostic Christian sect, are you implying they do something to cause demonic entities to attach to them? Am I following?

Archon=fallen spirit (elohim=fallen and unfallen Gods).  It's in the new age mythology that they will imitate/be imposters of relatives to try and make you reincarnate into the environment.  It might be something similar to that.

As in: a demon (fallen thought/archetype) uses your mental image of the person to try and engineer an outcome/replicate themselves into their "planned" new identity for you.  I can vouch for that in this (gangstalking).  It's in the NT if you understand the spiritual.

You will only understand these things if you know just about everything.

Gnostic doctrine is correct regarding the demiurge to what I've read but also requires knowing/experience.  Humans will always have fallen spirit attachments/demonic attacks because it's a fallen world...basis for the flesh world in full is fallen because it requires black rock to produce the dimensions when astral light is filtered through it (like the floyd album color).  If you're in the flesh, you are in a fallen world.  Black rock means little to no light in the pineal gland of the host (God).  GOD is something far different.

Maybe I'm mistaken about the concept of the black rock (it might have to do with fallen "living stones").  They make implications with the white stones and the black stones (also in the bible).  

Spiritual stuff will drive you crazy by their intent...they intend to do it "break the stone" so to speak.  Shatter your faith but the faith they shatter is only in the one pretending to be GOD.

I checked to respond to this.  These things are very real and there is no real "rulebook" for it.

Now I tend to keep an open mind regarding spirituality, but when religious beliefs are thrown in, then I have to step back and do some research. Here's an exorcist (not a Catholic priest) who claims he has never experienced anything supernatural or unexplainable. What he has experienced is that the people appear to him to be emotionally troubled.

I once joined a class held by a Shaman who showed us in how to expel negative energies along with teaching us how to contact our spirit animal and so I use that and other techniques such as sage for cleansing, which work well for me in expelling negative energies, but a I said before, I have never encountered what people would describe as demonic forces.

Quote:While many Americans think of real exorcisms as relics of the Dark Ages, exorcisms continue to be performed, often on people who are emotionally and mentally disturbed. Whether those undergoing the exorcism are truly possessed by spirits or demons is another matter entirely. Exorcisms are done on people of strong religious faith. To the extent that exorcisms "work," it is due to the power of suggestion and psychology: If you believe you're possessed (and that an exorcism will cure you), then it just might.

Quote:Along with a handful of Vatican-sanctioned exorcists, there are hundreds of self-styled exorcists around the world. After attending 50 exorcisms during research for his book, Michael Cuneo states that he never saw anything supernatural or unexplainable: No levitation or spinning heads or demonic scratch marks suddenly appearing on anyone's faces, but many emotionally troubled people on both sides of the ritual.

Quote:And on Christmas Day 2010 in London, England, a 14-year-old boy named Kristy Bamu was beaten and drowned to death by relatives trying to exorcise an evil spirit from the boy.

https://www.livescience.com/27727-exorci...ction.html
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07-23-2018, 04:38 PM #28
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(07-23-2018, 04:24 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Here's an exorcist (not a Catholic priest) who claims he has never experienced anything supernatural or unexplainable. What he has experienced is that the people appear to him to be emotionally troubled.

Congratulations, you found the worlds worst exorcist and quoted him.
07-23-2018, 04:46 PM #29
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(07-23-2018, 04:38 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-23-2018, 04:24 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Here's an exorcist (not a Catholic priest) who claims he has never experienced anything supernatural or unexplainable. What he has experienced is that the people appear to him to be emotionally troubled.

Congratulations, you found the worlds worst exorcist and quoted him.

No, livescience interviewed him because he has a great deal of experience.
07-23-2018, 04:53 PM #30
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Never experienced anything supernatural or unexplained, does that make them an expert?
The Vatican has opened its doors for its annual exorcism course to 250 a year, it's not because they like to play exorcist.
These self styled individuals do more harm than good.
Have you ever read The Demonologist: The Extraordinary Career of Ed and Lorraine Warren?
Here's a free pdf http://oceanofpdf.com/pdf-epub-the-demon...-download/

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