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Fate of the Dolphin
11-28-2012, 07:12 PM #1
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/337601

http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/11/22-4

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_11_23/Gulf-C...-dolphins/

http://www.voxy.co.nz/national/urgent-ac...e/5/140385

The varying articles from around the world go on and on and on. sad2.gif

Is shooting dolphins the new sport in the U.S.?

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Over the past several months, dolphins have washed ashore along the northern Gulf Coast with bullet wounds, missing jaws, and hacked-off fins, and federal officials say they are looking into the mysterious deaths. The most recent case was of a dolphin found dead off the coast of Mississippi, its lower jaw missing. Six dolphins have been found shot: two in Louisiana last year, plus one there and three in Mississippi this year. Besides the shootings, a dolphin in Alabama was found with a screwdriver stuck in its head over the summer.

The fact that some Japanese are protesting this long-held tradition is a 'first'.

http://savejapandolphins.org/blog/post/a...phin-hunts
11-28-2012, 07:21 PM #2
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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11-28-2012, 07:27 PM #3
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gaah.gif Good God! What the hell is wrong with people? You know, I have a friend in Sarasota that worked with dolphins at Mote marine. He told me they were probably as smart, if not smarter than humans in many ways.
We tend to judge intellect in the wrong fashion, by our own standards. Just because dolphins don't build or use tools we classify them as "animals". Why do they need to build? We wouldn't if we were not so woefully ill prepared to deal with this world we're on.

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11-28-2012, 07:34 PM #4
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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You've made an excellent point JR. Considering there are so many other factors at work now that are causing non-human species die-off and the threat of extinction.

http://www.arkoflife.net/why-species-go-extinct.html
11-28-2012, 11:12 PM #5
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People do stupid and cruel things, but most of the time it's about money. I bet it's fisherman killing them.

Biere.
11-28-2012, 11:24 PM #6
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-28-2012, 11:12 PM)yankees Wrote:  People do stupid and cruel things, but most of the time it's about money. I bet it's fisherman killing them.


You mean deep sea fishermen are shooting dolphins while they wait for a nibble on their lines? 13.gif

Unbelievable.

Quote: NOAA spokeswoman Allison Garrett told CNN that the most recent prosecution involved a Panama City, Florida, man who was convicted of throwing pipe bombs at dolphins. He was sentenced to two years in prison in 2009 for violating the federal conservation law and for possessing an explosive device as a convicted felon

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/19/us/dolphin...index.html
11-29-2012, 01:36 AM #7
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Damn that's horrible! sad2.gif

Yankees may have a point, fishermen here hate seals. Fucks up their nets and stuff so yeah I can see some idiot shoot an animal because of that. gaah.gif
11-29-2012, 02:46 AM #8
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(11-28-2012, 11:24 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(11-28-2012, 11:12 PM)yankees Wrote:  People do stupid and cruel things, but most of the time it's about money. I bet it's fisherman killing them.


You mean deep sea fishermen are shooting dolphins while they wait for a nibble on their lines? 13.gif

Unbelievable.

Quote: NOAA spokeswoman Allison Garrett told CNN that the most recent prosecution involved a Panama City, Florida, man who was convicted of throwing pipe bombs at dolphins. He was sentenced to two years in prison in 2009 for violating the federal conservation law and for possessing an explosive device as a convicted felon

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/19/us/dolphin...index.html


The pipe bomber was a commercial fisherman. Playing pipe bomb catch with the local dolphins would explain the missing jaws.

Looks to be commercial fishermen who got annoyed. Annoying animal, too much free time, recipe for trouble. Dolphins apparently follow charter boats that are chumming (since it attracts fish) and scare the larger fish away.

Social comment found elsewhere:
"I can't explain why anyone would shoot a dolphin,"

He shouldn't have tried to fark my girlfriend.

She came onto him. He didn't do it on porpoise.


The screwdriver is hard to explain - that is close range hand to hand combat.

Dolphins aren't angels either. They practice infanticide, gang rape/pimping of female dolphins, killing porpoises for sport and occasionally killing female trainers (Orcas are large dophins). Older dolphins have numerous bite marks from combat.

Dolphins are relatively large predators (500 pounds for a common dolphin) and should be treated carefully.

Not a fan of mistreating animals. Would be nice to find a harmless way to repel them from charter boats.

Looked at the cove trailer. Japanese will make sushi out of anything. They are one of the few whaling nations left. It is going to be hard to rein them in. The dolphin populations appear either steady or slightly increasing. Bycatch has been reduced 99% but is still restraining population growth.
11-29-2012, 06:03 PM #9
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-29-2012, 02:46 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  
(11-28-2012, 11:24 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(11-28-2012, 11:12 PM)yankees Wrote:  People do stupid and cruel things, but most of the time it's about money. I bet it's fisherman killing them.


You mean deep sea fishermen are shooting dolphins while they wait for a nibble on their lines? 13.gif

Unbelievable.

Quote: NOAA spokeswoman Allison Garrett told CNN that the most recent prosecution involved a Panama City, Florida, man who was convicted of throwing pipe bombs at dolphins. He was sentenced to two years in prison in 2009 for violating the federal conservation law and for possessing an explosive device as a convicted felon

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/19/us/dolphin...index.html


The pipe bomber was a commercial fisherman. Playing pipe bomb catch with the local dolphins would explain the missing jaws.

Looks to be commercial fishermen who got annoyed. Annoying animal, too much free time, recipe for trouble. Dolphins apparently follow charter boats that are chumming (since it attracts fish) and scare the larger fish away.

Social comment found elsewhere:
"I can't explain why anyone would shoot a dolphin,"

He shouldn't have tried to fark my girlfriend.

She came onto him. He didn't do it on porpoise.


The screwdriver is hard to explain - that is close range hand to hand combat.

Dolphins aren't angels either. They practice infanticide, gang rape/pimping of female dolphins, killing porpoises for sport and occasionally killing female trainers (Orcas are large dophins). Older dolphins have numerous bite marks from combat.

Dolphins are relatively large predators (500 pounds for a common dolphin) and should be treated carefully.

Not a fan of mistreating animals. Would be nice to find a harmless way to repel them from charter boats.

Looked at the cove trailer. Japanese will make sushi out of anything. They are one of the few whaling nations left. It is going to be hard to rein them in. The dolphin populations appear either steady or slightly increasing. Bycatch has been reduced 99% but is still restraining population growth.

I've read some dolphin species are declining...so I believe your blanket statement to be in error.
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11-29-2012, 07:31 PM #10
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/201...101813.htm

Read the above: Commercial Fishing Endangers Dolphin Populations, New Study Finds

Their population is in decline worldwide.

catastrophe has hit the dolphins of Peru. Hundreds of them have washed ashore dead between San Jose and Piura on the country's north coast.

Hardy Jones, executive director of BlueVoice.org and Dr. Carlos Yaipen Llanos of ORCA Peru covered 135 kilometers of beach running north from the fishing village of San Jose. They counted 615 dead dolphins ranging in age from newborns to fully mature males. Most of the dead are of the species long beaked common dolphins (delphinus capensis).

"If you can count 615 dead dolphins you can be sure there are a great many more out at sea and the total will reach into the thousands," said Jones.

ORCA's study of the dolphin die-off was sanctioned by the Peruvian Ecological Police.

The die-off, or Unusual Mortality Event (UME), was first noticed in January by fishermen who reported it to authorities. So far there is no definitive explanation for the extraordinary mass mortality.

http://yubanet.com/world/Hundreds-of-Dol...LeNy7mtPIV
11-29-2012, 08:11 PM #11
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(11-29-2012, 06:03 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(11-29-2012, 02:46 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  
(11-28-2012, 11:24 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(11-28-2012, 11:12 PM)yankees Wrote:  People do stupid and cruel things, but most of the time it's about money. I bet it's fisherman killing them.


You mean deep sea fishermen are shooting dolphins while they wait for a nibble on their lines? 13.gif

Unbelievable.

Quote: NOAA spokeswoman Allison Garrett told CNN that the most recent prosecution involved a Panama City, Florida, man who was convicted of throwing pipe bombs at dolphins. He was sentenced to two years in prison in 2009 for violating the federal conservation law and for possessing an explosive device as a convicted felon

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/19/us/dolphin...index.html


The pipe bomber was a commercial fisherman. Playing pipe bomb catch with the local dolphins would explain the missing jaws.

Looks to be commercial fishermen who got annoyed. Annoying animal, too much free time, recipe for trouble. Dolphins apparently follow charter boats that are chumming (since it attracts fish) and scare the larger fish away.

Social comment found elsewhere:
"I can't explain why anyone would shoot a dolphin,"

He shouldn't have tried to fark my girlfriend.

She came onto him. He didn't do it on porpoise.


The screwdriver is hard to explain - that is close range hand to hand combat.

Dolphins aren't angels either. They practice infanticide, gang rape/pimping of female dolphins, killing porpoises for sport and occasionally killing female trainers (Orcas are large dophins). Older dolphins have numerous bite marks from combat.

Dolphins are relatively large predators (500 pounds for a common dolphin) and should be treated carefully.

Not a fan of mistreating animals. Would be nice to find a harmless way to repel them from charter boats.

Looked at the cove trailer. Japanese will make sushi out of anything. They are one of the few whaling nations left. It is going to be hard to rein them in. The dolphin populations appear either steady or slightly increasing. Bycatch has been reduced 99% but is still restraining population growth.

I've read some dolphin species are declining...so I believe your blanket statement to be in error.


All generalizations are false including this one.
I am assuming you were making an obvious truism that is both obvious and a truism.

If you look at dolphin populations you see this sort of behavior:
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Dolphin populations started to stabilize in the early 1970s and stopped declining about the time the US banned dolphin catch in 1991.

I'm sure that out of about 17 major groups and 64 or so species there will be winners and losers. But the situation is improving if anything.

We are running out of good table fish (partially because of iron depletion) - which means from some people's perspective anything in the ocean is fair game. So it appears the appetite for Dolphin and Manatee is picking up. Dolphin is a apex predator with up to 9000 times the mercury level of fish on the bottom of the food chain. Doesn't make a lot of sense to eat them. But if pressure isn't applied they will increasingly be on the dinner plate somewhere.

Looked at the fishermen's forum and there is a problem with dolphins eating hooked fish while they are being reeled in. From an angler's perspective the cetaceans are asking for it.





11-29-2012, 08:43 PM #12
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Dolphin watching boats may pose risk to dolphin forgaging spots.

Quote: It concluded that foraging hotspots should be considered sensitive to disturbance by boats and that such activity should be kept to a minimum in such areas. However, there was less need for restrictions in areas where boating activity was predictable and where it did not seek contact with the animals.

Ben Leyshon, of SNH, said: “We aim to produce a tool that can inform future development while recognising we have a duty to protect the wild mammals in our waters.”

George Farlow, vice-chairman of Highland Council’s planning, environment and development committee, said: “This is an important piece of work which will support future sustainable development within the Moray Firth, while ensuring that we afford bottlenose dolphins the protection they deserve.”

http://www.scotsman.com/news/environment...-1-2661965

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11-29-2012, 09:34 PM #13
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(11-28-2012, 07:21 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  http://www.thecovemovie.com/WatchTheTrailer.htm


Yeah, I posted something about that movie on here
a couple of years or so ago.

Was bloody painful to watch.
11-29-2012, 09:37 PM #14
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(11-29-2012, 09:34 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  
(11-28-2012, 07:21 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  http://www.thecovemovie.com/WatchTheTrailer.htm


Yeah, I posted something about that movie on here
a couple of years or so ago.

Was bloody painful to watch.


I know, I felt that too and that was just by watching the trailer.
11-29-2012, 10:07 PM #15
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Well, it made me think dolphins are hardly any more
intelligent than humans...they insist on the same migration
pattern millennium after other.
Their Japanese butchers need to do nothing but wait.




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