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Federal Judge Rejects State Secrets Claims: EFF Case To Proceed
07-09-2013, 03:26 PM #1
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Quote:San Francisco - A federal judge today rejected the U.S. government's latest attempt to dismiss the Electronic Frontier Foundation's (EFF's) long-running challenge to the government's illegal dragnet surveillance programs. Today's ruling means the allegations at the heart of the Jewel case move forward under the supervision of a public federal court.

"The court rightly found that the traditional legal system can determine the legality of the mass, dragnet surveillance of innocent Americans and rejected the government's invocation of the state secrets privilege to have the case dismissed," said Cindy Cohn, EFF's Legal Director. "Over the last month, we came face-to-face with new details of mass, untargeted collection of phone and Internet records, substantially confirmed by the Director of National Intelligence. Today's decision sets the stage for finally getting a ruling that can stop the dragnet surveillance and restore Americans' constitutional rights."
Read more: eff.org

Isn't that interesting, seems they wont be able to hide on this issue. I have to admit I'm a bit shocked at this story.

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07-09-2013, 04:04 PM #2
yankees skier
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I guess now someone will get "disappeared"

Biere.
07-09-2013, 04:45 PM #3
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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yup.gif You know it.

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07-09-2013, 08:16 PM #4
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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and the goods will still flow out of China

and jobs will still be outsourced

and the Intel agents will still hack and spy on you

and oil rich country's leaders will still be called Hitler
and invaded

And Inheritance taxes will still rise

And Immigrants with boat loads of needy kids will still
walk right across borders uninhibited

and you will still be frisked by TSA agents

and housing will still be out of reach

and Identity Theft will still continue

and gangs will still multiply

and drugs will still flow across borders
and you will still pay for the war on drugs

and you will still be ticketed for anything you do or own

and every freedom of choice you ever wanted will still
be outlawed



and this farce of a trial/hearing /suit
will still come to nothing and hushed up .



face it folks
you are being F_CKED right up your asses while you watch them F_CK
you to poverty .

Right now
I am feeding a Homeless friend

1 mile away on Pebble Beach Golf Club

some ass driving a little white ball , just checked his Stocks
on his $1,000 Iphone and found he made
$250,000 over night on his shares in the war supplies
industry .

America is a Business

and the Intel Agencies are Corporate Security


and you are a threat to Profits .

So your paper , the bill of rights

is a threat too

Right now , you are making less money then ever before

RIGHT ?

Figure it out .

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07-10-2013, 12:57 AM #5
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
You are a slave. Get used to it, or change it.

If you cant change it, like you all say, then you are deserving to be a slave and nothing else.

If you dont care, same.

Prove you are more than a slave, and then take your place with standing.

Otherwise, just shut up already, all of your babble is pathetic.
07-10-2013, 01:09 AM #6
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(07-10-2013, 12:57 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  You are a slave. Get used to it, or change it.

If you cant change it, like you all say, then you are deserving to be a slave and nothing else.

If you dont care, same.

Prove you are more than a slave, and then take your place with standing.

Otherwise, just shut up already, all of your babble is pathetic.


Can you feel the love (t-dancing.gif) Rog?
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07-10-2013, 01:12 AM #7
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(07-10-2013, 01:09 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 12:57 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  You are a slave. Get used to it, or change it.

If you cant change it, like you all say, then you are deserving to be a slave and nothing else.

If you dont care, same.

Prove you are more than a slave, and then take your place with standing.

Otherwise, just shut up already, all of your babble is pathetic.


Can you feel the love (t-dancing.gif) Rog?


Love and truth are hardly compatible.

But if it makes you feel better, convince yourself how loving you are while in your shackles.
07-10-2013, 01:15 AM #8
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:15,188 Threads:429 Joined:Jun 2012
(07-10-2013, 01:12 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:09 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 12:57 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  You are a slave. Get used to it, or change it.

If you cant change it, like you all say, then you are deserving to be a slave and nothing else.

If you dont care, same.

Prove you are more than a slave, and then take your place with standing.

Otherwise, just shut up already, all of your babble is pathetic.


Can you feel the love (t-dancing.gif) Rog?


Love and truth are hardly compatible.

But if it makes you feel better, convince yourself how loving you are while in your shackles.


Funny thing AK, one can look at societal problems so many different ways...I can face the day with a smile while even shackled.
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07-10-2013, 01:16 AM #9
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(07-10-2013, 01:15 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:12 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:09 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 12:57 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  You are a slave. Get used to it, or change it.

If you cant change it, like you all say, then you are deserving to be a slave and nothing else.

If you dont care, same.

Prove you are more than a slave, and then take your place with standing.

Otherwise, just shut up already, all of your babble is pathetic.


Can you feel the love (t-dancing.gif) Rog?


Love and truth are hardly compatible.

But if it makes you feel better, convince yourself how loving you are while in your shackles.


Funny thing AK, one can look at societal problems so many different ways...I can face the day with a smile while even shackled.


That is the hope. For People to be happy enslaved, thus no longer complaining about it, and causing trouble.
07-10-2013, 01:18 AM #10
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:15,188 Threads:429 Joined:Jun 2012
(07-10-2013, 01:16 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:15 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:12 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:09 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 12:57 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  You are a slave. Get used to it, or change it.

If you cant change it, like you all say, then you are deserving to be a slave and nothing else.

If you dont care, same.

Prove you are more than a slave, and then take your place with standing.

Otherwise, just shut up already, all of your babble is pathetic.


Can you feel the love (t-dancing.gif) Rog?


Love and truth are hardly compatible.

But if it makes you feel better, convince yourself how loving you are while in your shackles.


Funny thing AK, one can look at societal problems so many different ways...I can face the day with a smile while even shackled.


That is the hope. For People to be happy enslaved, thus no longer complaining about it, and causing trouble.


Where in my post did I say I do not complain about it or will ever not cause trouble (with a smile)?
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
07-10-2013, 01:22 AM #11
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(07-10-2013, 01:18 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:16 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:15 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:12 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:09 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Can you feel the love (t-dancing.gif) Rog?


Love and truth are hardly compatible.

But if it makes you feel better, convince yourself how loving you are while in your shackles.


Funny thing AK, one can look at societal problems so many different ways...I can face the day with a smile while even shackled.


That is the hope. For People to be happy enslaved, thus no longer complaining about it, and causing trouble.


Where in my post did I say I do not complain about it or will ever not cause trouble (with a smile)?


You have been isolated to a forum, which is the intent, for forums are a bunch of slaves sitting around talking to each other, instead of engaged in activity that would end their slavery.

The agenda is following its course perfectly.
07-10-2013, 01:23 AM #12
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:15,188 Threads:429 Joined:Jun 2012
(07-10-2013, 01:22 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:18 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:16 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:15 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:12 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  Love and truth are hardly compatible.

But if it makes you feel better, convince yourself how loving you are while in your shackles.


Funny thing AK, one can look at societal problems so many different ways...I can face the day with a smile while even shackled.


That is the hope. For People to be happy enslaved, thus no longer complaining about it, and causing trouble.


Where in my post did I say I do not complain about it or will ever not cause trouble (with a smile)?


You have been isolated to a forum, which is the intent, for forums are a bunch of slaves sitting around talking to each other, instead of engaged in activity that would end their slavery.

The agenda is following its course perfectly.


I am not isolated to any place...my life is rich and far reaching...you assume too much.
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
07-10-2013, 01:25 AM #13
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(07-10-2013, 01:23 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:22 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:18 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:16 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:15 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Funny thing AK, one can look at societal problems so many different ways...I can face the day with a smile while even shackled.


That is the hope. For People to be happy enslaved, thus no longer complaining about it, and causing trouble.


Where in my post did I say I do not complain about it or will ever not cause trouble (with a smile)?


You have been isolated to a forum, which is the intent, for forums are a bunch of slaves sitting around talking to each other, instead of engaged in activity that would end their slavery.

The agenda is following its course perfectly.


I am not isolated to any place...my life is rich and far reaching...you assume too much.


I will assume otherwise when there is proof of such other.

And when there is proof of such other, 1,000 other tactics will be employed.

You have illusions, nothing else.
07-10-2013, 01:28 AM #14
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:15,188 Threads:429 Joined:Jun 2012
(07-10-2013, 01:25 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:23 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:22 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:18 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:16 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  That is the hope. For People to be happy enslaved, thus no longer complaining about it, and causing trouble.


Where in my post did I say I do not complain about it or will ever not cause trouble (with a smile)?


You have been isolated to a forum, which is the intent, for forums are a bunch of slaves sitting around talking to each other, instead of engaged in activity that would end their slavery.

The agenda is following its course perfectly.


I am not isolated to any place...my life is rich and far reaching...you assume too much.


I will assume otherwise when there is proof of such other.

And when there is proof of such other, 1,000 other tactics will be employed.

You have illusions, nothing else.


You are free (not a slave) to think what you will.
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
07-10-2013, 01:30 AM #15
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(07-10-2013, 01:28 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:25 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:23 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:22 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(07-10-2013, 01:18 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  Where in my post did I say I do not complain about it or will ever not cause trouble (with a smile)?


You have been isolated to a forum, which is the intent, for forums are a bunch of slaves sitting around talking to each other, instead of engaged in activity that would end their slavery.

The agenda is following its course perfectly.


I am not isolated to any place...my life is rich and far reaching...you assume too much.


I will assume otherwise when there is proof of such other.

And when there is proof of such other, 1,000 other tactics will be employed.

You have illusions, nothing else.


You are free (not a slave) to think what you will.


Eventually, such freedom of the mind, will be gone as well.

I suggest you enjoy it while it lasts.



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