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04-18-2011, 07:35 PM #16
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cheers.gif Lets hope so AS! Once the emperors clothes come off all bets are off as well.

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04-19-2011, 01:09 AM #17
Kreeper Griobhtha
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In other words, same old shit, different name.


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What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
04-19-2011, 01:11 AM #18
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Probably, getting out of the EU is a carrot on a stick dangled to obtain votes...yeah, I could see that happening.

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04-19-2011, 02:10 AM #19
Kreeper Griobhtha
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The hindrance to our solution is that we consider ourselves "civilized". Or rather, we have been convinced we are civilized. Civilized people don't commit bloody revolution. When we have an issue with our leaders, we vote them out. The problem is, we only get more of the same to choose from. Only when the proverbial fecal matter truly impacts the equally proverbial air circulation device will we see the masses stand up for real change.


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What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
04-19-2011, 03:22 AM #20
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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(04-19-2011, 02:10 AM)Kreeper Wrote:  The hindrance to our solution is that we consider ourselves "civilized". Or rather, we have been convinced we are civilized. Civilized people don't commit bloody revolution. When we have a issue with our leaders, we vote them out. The problem is, we only get more of the same to choose from. Only when the proverbial fecal matter truly impacts the equally proverbial air circulation device will we see the masses stand up for real change.


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04-19-2011, 09:52 AM #21
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Bloody revolution..?
Hmmm, sure...guess one could see it that way.

Personally, I oftentimes think the opposite.
A real change/break of old patterns should happen
without bloodshed, since mass violence tends to
create nothing but perfect premises for new viceroys
of the same old SlaveMaster King...him and those
who sell the guns & ammo :)
Round and round it goes, violent "change".
Not a perfect example, I admit, but the wounds of 1917-18
are still not quite healed here in ol' Finland, for instance.

This time will have to be different, somehow.
Could be done if every 18+ y o commoner on Earth were
online hahhah - Direct Fractal Democracy.
WTF else do we have the internet potential for..?

Because I believe, maybe:

1) All organizations larger than one (1) person can be infiltrated

2) Our problem is a mental/spiritual one

Big Brother hijacked the awareness of the fractal Universe.
We're gonna have to get back to the simple, basic things:
What to eat, what to drink, how to think for ourselves
(how to decentralize everything while keeping the good sides
of global consciousness).

Wish the change could happen without dead bodies rotting
in the streets.
But yeah, the (more prosaic and mundane side of the) problem
is not the nation state, nor necessarily its ways of democracy.
Rather the lack of integrity of the political class, doing nothing
but the bidding of international oligarchy.
The nation state in itself is in fact a harmonic thing, which inspires
respect for the soil that feeds you. We peasants never once started
a border war.

Wow, I gotz the brain diarrhea again doobie.gif

04-19-2011, 03:13 PM #22
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Don't get me wrong. I would much rather we could vote in the new blood and retire the tyrants to grass huts on a bomb testing island. I would rather that MSM would report the truth. I would much rather people could see for themselves what is really going on.

Unfortunately, none of that will happen. TPTB have their talons in far too deep for that. Even if we could infiltrate their little groups, they would never relinquish power to a commoner. Besides, we don't have time to wait. What is happening is happening very fast and picking up momentum.

I fear that, when the shit hits the fan, people will be rioting in the streets and rounding up politicians and corporate heads for a good old fashioned hanging. That will open the door for the UN to burst onto the scene with all sorts of fancy weapons of mass suppression.

We can't have the serfs thinking they have rights.


Interesting note: Several years ago, a friend and I I were having a discussion about the NWO and all that is going on. Another friend, a sergeant in the military, said that all this information was already know to a large element of the armed forces. It went all the way to some of the highest tanking officials. He said that plans had already been made to counter TPTB when the time came. Take it for what it is worth though.

What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
04-19-2011, 07:37 PM #23
Accidental Stoner Member
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(04-19-2011, 03:13 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  .../
Interesting note: Several years ago, a friend and I I were having a discussion about the NWO and all that is going on. Another friend, a sergeant in the military, said that all this information was already know to a large element of the armed forces. It went all the way to some of the highest tanking officials. He said that plans had already been made to counter TPTB when the time came. Take it for what it is worth though.

Yeah, heard that from several sources.
Wonder if there's anything like that going on in the Finnish/Nordic millitary..?

And yes, I admit it's hard to see things take any other direction than the one
you described :( at least in the big cities.

People in not so densely populated areas have a shorter way back to the essentials.
The possibility of living without the NWO is a bit better in the outback.
Still and for now...


04-19-2011, 10:52 PM #24
Octo Mother Superior
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(04-19-2011, 07:37 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Yeah, heard that from several sources.
Wonder if there's anything like that going on in the Finnish/Nordic millitary..?

I've heard rumors about indications of such 13.gif
04-21-2011, 02:13 PM #25
Octo Mother Superior
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Donald Duck favourite among voters casting rejected ballots

In Finnish elections, voters are instructed to write the number of their candidate on the ballot by hand.
However, some voters, while showing up at the polling station, will spoil their ballot papers by writing in names of people who are not candidates, or adding commentary (often of an obscene variety), or by drawing pictures.
Once again, a favourite was the Disney character Donald Duck, whose picture found its way onto a number of ballots, or whose name (“Aku Ankka” in Finnish) was written on the ballot-paper.

Some voters wrote on the ballot that no suitable candidate could be found, or that they were “not interested”.
In one case, there was a message expressing best wishes to the elderly, accompanied by an imprint of a pair of lips. There was also praise of heavy music legend Ronnie James Dio.
One voter had cut out and carefully pasted in a photograph of Jörn Donner, who ran unsuccessfully on the Swedish People’s Party ticket.
Regrettably, such a painstaking display of support for the candidate is of considerably less value than simply writing the number.

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Donald+...5265553088

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04-21-2011, 08:56 PM #26
Accidental Stoner Member
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Why not?

He'd be the only duck in Parliament who is not lame.
04-21-2011, 10:15 PM #27
Kreeper Griobhtha
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Why not? Because with his temper he would start WWs III, IV and V all at the same time!


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What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
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04-21-2011, 10:24 PM #28
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Quote:There was also praise of heavy music legend Ronnie James Dio.
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05-02-2011, 02:43 PM #29
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True Finns Just Say No To Greek Bailout

While the world is caught up in a wave of largely irrelevant for the capital markets euphoria, things in Europe are once again going from bad to worse, as the weakest link in the European rescue has once again said no. Reuters reports: "Finland's eurosceptic True Finns party said on Monday it was sticking to its pre-election stance that it cannot support Portugal's bailout package. We cannot with good conscience support Portugal's package nor the creation of permanent bailout mechanism

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/meanwhi...ek-bailout

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05-02-2011, 02:48 PM #30
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Quote:The Portugal issue is one of the most urgent questions in the preliminary inquiries into forming a new government, which started on Wednesday of last week, as Finland is to make a decision on its stand by May 25th at the latest.

http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Soini+s...5265815361



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