Is there a "grey-economy" in Finland? By that I mean cash-businesses, garage-sales, second-hand stores etc?
Will this "money' be in the form of a debit-like card, where no change is given?
Looks like the first step towards a "cashless" society, where everything is monitored.
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(12-07-2015, 04:39 AM)bohica Wrote: I cannot see how this won't raise the prices of basic necessities.
Is there a "grey-economy" in Finland? By that I mean cash-businesses, garage-sales, second-hand stores etc?
Will this "money' be in the form of a debit-like card, where no change is given?
Looks like the first step towards a "cashless" society, where everything is monitored.
There's a huge a "grey-economy" in Finland. Plenty of second hand stores, people sell their own stuff on findit.fi - it's like an internet garage sale, if you already own it, and someone else buys it, there's no tax on either party.
And nope there's no EBT card system. That's a US ho ho. Everyone here has a free bank account and a VISA debit card by default, both the employed and unemployed.
You can easily get cash with your debit card.
Finland doesn't spend trillions a year fight a never ending war against enemies that don't really exist, so there are no homeless people, and college is free. In fact, you get paid to go to school.
Prices are much lower here on food than in the US, and no GMO anything.

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(12-07-2015, 04:24 AM)JayRodney Wrote:(12-07-2015, 03:06 AM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote: the best one is " People KNOW for a fact that the Government is corrupt
and they still give it money "
The difference between governments and Mafia is one of them is organized.
Even the mafia leave some things alone.
(12-07-2015, 04:21 PM)JayRodney Wrote: 865.16It's not very much.
I'd take it.

So, does EVERY Fin get the money or are there income limits?
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With our luck it will come in just at the time the Euro = 1 Indian Rupee


$800 x 2 adults = $1600/month
Plus welfare?
Any subsidy for the one child?
costs me 335€ / month.
And with this basic income there wouldn't really be any welfare. Not sure if there would be any child benefits anymore either, right now that runs at about 100 euros per month for 1 kid.
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