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Finnish Air Force beefing up its airspace monitoring as American and Russian planes carry out manoeuvres nearby
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03-21-2014, 01:15 AM #16
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Could be an economic stranglehold for the EU
03-21-2014, 05:39 AM #17
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(03-20-2014, 10:44 PM)j browsing Wrote:  no not invasion..putin now controls the energy ..natural gas..that powers Europe and if that gets cut off every country will suffer financially ..hard times ahead for Europe..there are plenty of other markets for the natural gas and oil..and putin knows this..so the ante will be upped again and what happens then???

It's Russia's LNG it was before and it still is. Ukraine controls about 1/3 of the pipelines to EU and you're right, China will take all Russia will sell them. This changes nothing on the energy front other than Ukraine used to get a discount but now may not. Brussels wanted all Ukraine but they'll be lucky to get Kiev. Didn't escape my attention that Belgium is the 3rd largest holder of T-bills after China and Russia
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/eaccbe18-aea6-...z2wYnhbZEV

Why is Brussels buying US debt? Because the EU wants Ukraine EUhaha.gif And keep in mind, once Ukraine's debt to GDP exceeds 60% some $20billion in Russian debt becomes due, so any loan by the IMF flows directly to Moscow. Normally those loans flow back to Western backed corporations who simply use the "loan money" to purchase infrastructure and state owned assets like water rights, hospitals, schools, FARMLAND. And I seriously doubt the IMF cares how many Europeans freeze except for the chance to blame Russia for it on CNNBCFOX.

Banks don't want people to pay off debt, they only want people (or nations) who can service debt. All wars are bankers wars and Ukraine is most certainly one. Or was until Putin threw in a monkey wrench lol.
03-21-2014, 05:49 AM #18
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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One thing peoples need to wrap their heads around is it isn't about Russia or the USA or Finland or Canada or Crimea or or or...

It's about the BIS, Gazprom, Chevron, Monsanto, Syngenta, McDonalds, Walmart ..........

These deluded ideas of nationalism have no place in understanding where the world is going.
03-21-2014, 01:13 PM #19
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03-21-2014, 01:19 PM #20
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(03-21-2014, 05:39 AM)Shadow Wrote:  Banks don't want people to pay off debt, they only want people (or nations) who can service debt. All wars are bankers wars and Ukraine is most certainly one. Or was until Putin threw in a monkey wrench lol.

Bingo!

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03-21-2014, 01:28 PM #21
Octo Mother Superior
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Quote:In a situation when the ruble was falling and there were cross-currents of internal pressures, a victorious little war is the best medicine," Russian-watcher and journalist Leena Liukkonen added.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/former_general_the...re/7144087
03-21-2014, 02:50 PM #22
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(03-20-2014, 09:54 PM)j browsing Wrote:  saber rattling..I dunno blink.gif

how are you sweetness? hug.gif

i think its saber rattling.. maybe some americans see it differently? there is a "fear" with these countries that isnt there for some foreigners.
03-21-2014, 02:57 PM #23
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(03-20-2014, 09:59 PM)Octo Wrote:  I'm not worried about Russia invading, I'm more worried about the US being in the neighborhood. 13.gif

exactly.. they really need to just focus on their own country and stop trying to control the world.. its really getting tired..

i cant help but look at everything as it is playing out on the universal energy fields.. you have this replay thats set in at the mo, and its all about controling forces (alien and dark forces) that have been playing out on this planet for far too long, and its ending.. they arent winning anymore.. so that is playing out in the physical.. so its looking like the US is not going to be able to play this controlling game anymore.. putin stopped that war in syria.. that was going to be another ğkking war, killing how many more innocent people.. crimea doesnt bother me at all.. dont know why,, it just doesnt..

the US is losing power.. they abused it and so the karma wheel is hitting them hard..
03-21-2014, 03:08 PM #24
Octo Mother Superior
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I've not heard a single person here worrying about Russia or even talking about it. These superpower shenanigans are getting tiresome. 13.gif
03-21-2014, 03:16 PM #25
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(03-20-2014, 09:59 PM)Octo Wrote:  I'm not worried about Russia invading, I'm more worried about the US being in the neighborhood. 13.gif

I wait for the day they turn their eyes North. Actually I'm not that concerned about it because Harper turned Canada over to the corporations already.
03-21-2014, 03:17 PM #26
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(03-21-2014, 03:08 PM)Octo Wrote:  I've not heard a single person here worrying about Russia or even talking about it. These superpower shenanigans are getting tiresome. 13.gif

maybe you should flee to Sweden.. rofl.gif rofl.gif
03-21-2014, 03:19 PM #27
Octo Mother Superior
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03-21-2014, 03:24 PM #28
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(03-21-2014, 03:19 PM)Octo Wrote:  omg.gif


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when Russia invades you have to go somewhere.. dont you like the Swiss? rofl.gifrofl.gif
03-21-2014, 03:27 PM #29
Octo Mother Superior
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No the Swiss are so cheesy. batboy.jpg

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03-21-2014, 03:29 PM #30
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(03-21-2014, 03:24 PM)the white ribbon Wrote:  when Russia invades you have to go somewhere.. dont you like the Swiss? rofl.gifrofl.gif

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