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Gut bacteria are an invisible hand altering our brains.
04-26-2018, 12:06 AM #16
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(04-25-2018, 09:47 PM)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(04-25-2018, 08:59 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Whilst beer is fermented it doesn't offer the benefits of Sour Kraut but it has other benefits.  chuckle.gif
Have you tried Kefir?

I have. The problem in the US is that milk products get Pasteurized turning them into unhealthy foods. Pasteurized kefir is certainly better than drinking Pasteurized milk though.

I do have access to raw milk and butter, too, recently. Have been using the milk and will switch to the butter when my present organic but Pasteurized butter runs out. The raw will run $8 or $9 a pound since someone drives an hour to get it and bring the butter and the milk to me.
If you can get raw milk you can get some kefir grains ans make your own. As long as you don't kill them you only have to buy them once. They reproduce pretty quickly and you will find yourself giving them away.

What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
04-26-2018, 07:25 AM #17
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^absolutely correct^ That gets out of control in the best possible way bacterium gone wild.

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04-26-2018, 09:29 AM #18
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(04-25-2018, 10:07 PM)RLK Wrote:  We eat home made sauerkraut with pork chops and bratwurst and make Reuben's with it, I didn't realize it was so beneficial. This is a great informative thread 5 stars Totie and everyone!

drool.gif Yum, chops and sauerkraut is a Hungarian dish my grandma used to make, haven't had it in years but man, do I miss it.
04-26-2018, 09:51 AM #19
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(04-25-2018, 06:02 AM)Totie Wrote:  Read more: http://www.bbc.com/news/health-43815370

These quacks I've been seeing know zero about this, yet I've been reading this for years and know it for a fact as I was given a round of strong antibiotics about two years ago that caused all kinds of mood changes, and not for the better. It took probiotics over a period of a few weeks to get back on track, and I drank unfiltered apple cider vinegar to alkalize my body.
The pill pushers are finally falling in line with what the health food experts have been saying for years.
As a person with that lives with chronic pain, I have come to realize that the medical establishment knows very little to nothing when it comes to certain illness and various health problems even if these problems have been with us forever. For people that live with either chronic fatigue,  chronic pain, and/or fibromyalgia you live in this weird grey area of reality where you are neither a fully healthy person or someone who is an invalid who is unable to get out of bed, and society as well as the medical community as a whole can't wrap their head around that concept that such a problem exists and that it is an issue that is not that uncommon.

Recently I even had an argument with my "pain management specialist" and she both admitted that she couldn't make heads or tails of the occupational evaluations that are created and sent to her that are used to determine whether I can work or not as well as believing that since she too suffers from what she thinks is "chronic pain" and takes adleve  many days before she comes to work but still manages to work and have a regular life despite her "pain"; which nearly caused me to freak out since she should know better since I have spent several hours explaining how chronic pain and regular pain are not the same thing, she has several years of schooling and training that she tell her the difference, and she is the one that needs to now better since she is the one that signs the scripts which allows me to get the pain medication that I need every day in order for me to survive.

It is even crazier to realize that the medical community has no clear way of being able to tell the difference between mild day to day pain and the kind of pain and the kind of pain where a person is about to go into shock other than how perhaps how they are behaving.  For them if a person is sitting still and being quite then it can't be all that bad no matter what they are saying unless they get up out of their sits and start screaming their heads off or fall out of theirs and spazzing out on the floor.
04-26-2018, 09:59 AM #20
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A good friend had a thyroid problem and was taking medication for it. She was putting on weight and went on an LCHF diet, within a month the medicine started making her nervous and was giving her panic attacks, she went to the doctor and found her thyroid had started functioning again.
She claims it was not just the diet but she also consumed huge amounts of aspartame drinking diet soft drinks, which she said played a big part in this. She medicine free to this day.
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04-26-2018, 10:54 AM #21
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TY 4 all the great info! cheers.gif Passing this one one to people it can help.
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04-26-2018, 11:42 AM #22
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Quote:Wheat consumption has been linked to psychiatric conditions like schizophrenia for over 60 years, but recent research indicates the mind-altering properties of this popular food are, in part, caused by it cutting off blood flow to the frontal cortex of the brain.

As far back as 1954, reports of the full or partial resolution of schizophrenia following a gluten free diet began to surface in the medical literature. I explored this remarkable phenomenon in a previous article titled, “60 Years of Research Links Gluten Grains to Schizophrenia.” While the explanation for this intriguing connection has remained focused on the disruption of the gut-brain axis and the presence in wheat of a wide range of pharmacologically active and mostly opioid receptor modulating polypeptides with glutathione-depleting properties, a new and possibly more disturbing explanation is beginning to surface: wheat consumption also cuts off blood flow to the brain.

Starting with a 1997 case study published in the Journal of Internal Medicine involving a 33-year-old patient, with pre-existing diagnosis of ‘schizophrenic’ disorder, who first came to medical attention for severe diarrhea and weight loss (classical symptoms of gluten intolerance), brain scan technology determined that cerebral hypoperfusion (decreased blood flow to the brain) was occurring within the patient’s frontal cortex.[i] A gluten free diet resulted not only in the normalization of intestinal damage and autoantibodies, but also in the return of blood flow to the frontal cortex, and the resolution of schizophrenic symptoms.

Then, in 2004, a follow up study was performed to verify if the 1997 case study was just a fluke, or perhaps a widespread effect of untreated celiac disease. Published in the American Journal of Medicine, researchers from the Institute of Internal Medicine, Catholic University, Rome, Italy, compared 15 untreated celiac patients without neurological or psychiatric disorders other than anxiety or depression, with 15 celiac patients who were on a gluten-free diet for almost 1 year, and 24 healthy volunteers of similar sex and age. All subjects underwent cerebral single photon emission computed tomography examination.

The results were remarkable, with dramatically increased incidence of impaired brain blood flow in untreated celiac patients, reported as follows:

“Of the 15 untreated celiac patients, 11 (73%) had at least one hypoperfused brain region, compared with only 1 (7%) of the 15 celiac patients on a gluten-free diet and none of the controls (P = 0.01). Cerebral perfusion was significantly lower (P <0.05) in untreated celiac patients, compared with healthy controls, in 7 of 26 brain regions. No significant differences in cerebral perfusion were found between celiac patients on a gluten-free diet and healthy controls.”

They concluded: “There is evidence of regional cerebral blood flow alteration in untreated celiac patients.”



Stay away from wheat.
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04-26-2018, 11:44 AM #23
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Sorry - here is link link
04-26-2018, 12:48 PM #24
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04-26-2018, 02:01 PM #25
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Bookmarked for later, interesting thread. cheers.gif
04-27-2018, 12:30 PM #26
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(04-26-2018, 11:42 AM)Ebb He Within Rot Wrote:  
Quote:Wheat consumption has been linked to psychiatric conditions like schizophrenia for over 60 years, but recent research indicates the mind-altering properties of this popular food are, in part, caused by it cutting off blood flow to the frontal cortex of the brain.

As far back as 1954, reports of the full or partial resolution of schizophrenia following a gluten free diet began to surface in the medical literature. I explored this remarkable phenomenon in a previous article titled, “60 Years of Research Links Gluten Grains to Schizophrenia.” While the explanation for this intriguing connection has remained focused on the disruption of the gut-brain axis and the presence in wheat of a wide range of pharmacologically active and mostly opioid receptor modulating polypeptides with glutathione-depleting properties, a new and possibly more disturbing explanation is beginning to surface: wheat consumption also cuts off blood flow to the brain.

Starting with a 1997 case study published in the Journal of Internal Medicine involving a 33-year-old patient, with pre-existing diagnosis of ‘schizophrenic’ disorder, who first came to medical attention for severe diarrhea and weight loss (classical symptoms of gluten intolerance), brain scan technology determined that cerebral hypoperfusion (decreased blood flow to the brain) was occurring within the patient’s frontal cortex.[i] A gluten free diet resulted not only in the normalization of intestinal damage and autoantibodies, but also in the return of blood flow to the frontal cortex, and the resolution of schizophrenic symptoms.

Then, in 2004, a follow up study was performed to verify if the 1997 case study was just a fluke, or perhaps a widespread effect of untreated celiac disease. Published in the American Journal of Medicine, researchers from the Institute of Internal Medicine, Catholic University, Rome, Italy, compared 15 untreated celiac patients without neurological or psychiatric disorders other than anxiety or depression, with 15 celiac patients who were on a gluten-free diet for almost 1 year, and 24 healthy volunteers of similar sex and age. All subjects underwent cerebral single photon emission computed tomography examination.

The results were remarkable, with dramatically increased incidence of impaired brain blood flow in untreated celiac patients, reported as follows:

   “Of the 15 untreated celiac patients, 11 (73%) had at least one hypoperfused brain region, compared with only 1 (7%) of the 15 celiac patients on a gluten-free diet and none of the controls (P = 0.01). Cerebral perfusion was significantly lower (P <0.05) in untreated celiac patients, compared with healthy controls, in 7 of 26 brain regions. No significant differences in cerebral perfusion were found between celiac patients on a gluten-free diet and healthy controls.”

They concluded: “There is evidence of regional cerebral blood flow alteration in untreated celiac patients.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_conti...wYbdcEOVeo

Stay away from wheat.

We've been thinking of giving it up, but what do you substitute?
04-27-2018, 03:21 PM #27
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(04-26-2018, 09:59 AM)The Black Friar Wrote:  A good friend had a thyroid problem and was taking medication for it. She was putting on weight and went on an LCHF diet, within a month the medicine started making her nervous and was giving her panic attacks, she went to the doctor and found her thyroid had started functioning again.
She claims it was not just the diet but she also consumed huge amounts of aspartame drinking diet soft drinks, which she said played a big part in this. She medicine free to this day.

That is my wife also. Not your friend, the situation. chuckle.gif

We went LCHF and her thyroid #s went up and they lowered her meds by half. We have mostly sort of been off of it for a bit (going right back on after we move) and now her #s have dropped and they increased her meds again.

What politics from both sides wants to teach us is that things are never complex. If you have your little package and something doesn't fit into that package, You don't know what to make of it so you want to dismiss it or then you will have to do the work of reconsidering your assumptions. - Michael Malice
04-27-2018, 04:12 PM #28
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(04-27-2018, 03:21 PM)Kreeper Wrote:  
(04-26-2018, 09:59 AM)The Black Friar Wrote:  A good friend had a thyroid problem and was taking medication for it. She was putting on weight and went on an LCHF diet, within a month the medicine started making her nervous and was giving her panic attacks, she went to the doctor and found her thyroid had started functioning again.
She claims it was not just the diet but she also consumed huge amounts of aspartame drinking diet soft drinks, which she said played a big part in this. She medicine free to this day.

That is my wife also. Not your friend, the situation. chuckle.gif

We went LCHF and her thyroid #s went up and they lowered her meds by half. We have mostly sort of been off of it for a bit (going right back on after we move) and now her #s have dropped and they increased her meds again.
TBF... I missed that post chuckle.gif Kreeper beat me to the punch on that or...
damned.gif  wtf Kreeper keep an eye one her.  rofl.gif
I had thyroid issues too until I changed my diet, this is common I guess.

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