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Hacking the body: Who needs food?
03-13-2013, 11:14 PM #1
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Quote:You know what's a complete waste of time, money, and effort? Eating. I mean, wouldn't you rather just ingest a tasteless form of sustenance for the rest of your life and never have to go through that tedious rigmarole of opening and eating a premade sandwich or feasting on a pile of fried delicacies ever again? Rob Rhinehart—a 24-year-old software engineer from Atlanta and, presumably, an impossibly busy man—thinks so.

Rob found himself resenting the inordinate amount time it takes to fry an egg in the morning and decided something had to be done. Simplifying food as "nutrients required by the body to function" (which sounds totally bulimic, I know, but I promise it's not), Rob has come up with an odorless beige cocktail that he's named Soylent.

I wasn't sure if he was trolling at first because that's the name of a wafer made out of human flesh and fed to the masses in the seminal 1973 sci-fi film Soylent Green, but then I read the extensive post on Rob's blog about how he came to make the stuff, and I started to believe he was serious. Soylent contains all the nutritive components of a balanced diet but just a third of the calories and none of the toxins or cancer-causing stuff you'd usually find in your lunch of processed foods. Despite the fact that it looks a bit like vomit, Soylent supposedly has the potential to change the entire world's relationship with food, so I spoke to Rob to find out how.

VICE: Hi, Rob. Why did you decide to boycott eating?
Rob Rhinehart: It was a combination of things. I was home for Christmas and saw an elderly family friend get admitted to the hospital after losing an unhealthy amount of weight. He was losing strength in one of his arms and found it very difficult to cook. I started wondering why something as simple and important as food was still so inefficient, given how streamlined and optimized other modern things are. I also had an incentive to live as cheaply as possible, and I yearned for the productivity benefit of being healthy. I'd been reading a lot of books on biology, and I started to think that it's probably all the same to our cells whether it gets nutrients from a powder or a carrot.

What was the next step?
Hacking the body is high risk, high reward. I read a textbook on physiological chemistry and took to the internet to see if I could find every known essential nutrient. My kitchen soon looked like a chemistry lab, and I had every unknown substance in a glass in front of me. I was a little worried it was going to kill me, but decided it was for science and quickly downed the whole thing. To my surprise, it was quite tasty, and I felt very energetic. For 30 days, I avoided food entirely, and I monitored the contents of my blood and my physical performance. Mental performance is harder to quantify, but I feel much sharper.

So what’s in Soylent, exactly?
Everything the body needs—that we know of, anyway—vitamins, minerals, and macronutrients like essential amino acids, carbohydrates, and fat. For the fat, I just use olive oil and add fish oil. The carbs are an oligosaccharide, which is like sugar, but the molecules are longer, meaning it takes longer to metabolize and gives you a steady flow of energy for a longer period of time rather than a sugar rush from something like fructose or table sugar. I also add some nonessentials like antioxidants and probiotics and lately have been experimenting with nootropics.

And that tastes good?
It tastes very good. I haven't got tired of the taste in six weeks. It's a very "complete" sensation, more sweet than anything. Eating to me is a leisure activity, like going to the movies, but I don't want to go to the movies three times a day.

What are some of the benefits to the food-free lifestyle? Any drawbacks?
Not having to worry about food is fantastic. No groceries or dishes, no deciding what to eat, no endless conversations weighing the relative merits of gluten-free, keto, paleo, or vegan. Power and water bills are lower. I save hours a day and hundreds of dollars a month. I feel liberated from a crushing amount of repetitive drudgery. Soylent might also be good for people having trouble managing their weight. I find it very easy to lose and gain precise amounts of weight by varying the proportions in my drink.

There are drawbacks: It doesn't keep long after mixing with water, so I still have to make it every day. If I make a mistake with the amount of an ingredient, it can make me sick, but that hasn't happened in a while. Also, some people really enjoy food a lot more than I do, so they may not like the idea.

Read more: http://www.vice.com/read/rob-rhinehart-n...uires-food



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03-13-2013, 11:21 PM #2
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We already have another version of that....

İmage

...and it's not tasteless. It's also known as liquid bread.

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03-13-2013, 11:23 PM #3
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03-13-2013, 11:27 PM #4
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US is absolutely right. beercheer.gif

Quote:I mean, wouldn't you rather just ingest a tasteless form of sustenance for the rest of your life

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03-13-2013, 11:28 PM #5
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We home brew our liquid bread. beerbong.gif Works like a charm. moarbeer.gif

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03-13-2013, 11:59 PM #6
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One problem with his thinking is that you lose the benefit of any life force that comes in foods... particularly raw foods.

I think one could do better if the primary supplement was blue green algae which has nearly and identical nutritional profile to our own and takes minimum digestive process to absorb... especially with the cell wall removed liquid supplement. Pure nutrients. It also helps to include some roughage for the sake of the gut. Some plain white rice with coconut oil works nice.(of course then you are still eating something)

I survived on this diet for a month when I tried it long time ago. It left me feeling really energized and somewhat plant like ...of course I was brewing for a microbrewery at the time so add in a couple pints of steam style ALE every other daydrinking.gif
03-14-2013, 12:03 AM #7
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(03-13-2013, 11:59 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  One problem with his thinking is that you lose the benefit of any life force that comes in foods... particularly raw foods.

I think one could do better if the primary supplement was blue green algae which has nearly and identical nutritional profile to our own and takes minimum digestive process to absorb... especially with the cell wall removed liquid supplement. Pure nutrients. It also helps to include some roughage for the sake of the gut. Some plain white rice with coconut oil works nice.(of course then you are still eating something)

I survived on this diet for a month when I tried it long time ago. It left me feeling really energized and somewhat plant like ...of course I was brewing for a microbrewery at the time so add in a couple pints of steam style ALE every other daydrinking.gif

:fuckyeah:

Beer is food and nutritious to boot. Blue green algae is something I'd definitely grow for SHTF conditions.
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03-14-2013, 12:07 AM #8
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If one wants to try a liquid nutrient diet and not worry about shitting. Then you want something that will be fully absorbed and I would flush ones gut out first using something like mandrake root which is kind of dangerous but safe to use in a very low dose... like just a gram or too(research it before trying). This will cause an over production of bile which will then flush out your entire intestinal track ...including clearing any blockages. Then you start your solid free diet.

...something to be said about not storing dead matter inside oneself as well.
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03-14-2013, 12:09 AM #9
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(03-14-2013, 12:03 AM)Octo Wrote:  
(03-13-2013, 11:59 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  One problem with his thinking is that you lose the benefit of any life force that comes in foods... particularly raw foods.

I think one could do better if the primary supplement was blue green algae which has nearly and identical nutritional profile to our own and takes minimum digestive process to absorb... especially with the cell wall removed liquid supplement. Pure nutrients. It also helps to include some roughage for the sake of the gut. Some plain white rice with coconut oil works nice.(of course then you are still eating something)

I survived on this diet for a month when I tried it long time ago. It left me feeling really energized and somewhat plant like ...of course I was brewing for a microbrewery at the time so add in a couple pints of steam style ALE every other daydrinking.gif

:fuckyeah:

Beer is food and nutritious to boot. Blue green algae is something I'd definitely grow for SHTF conditions.


You really don't want to just eat any pond scum.

The stuff I recommend comes from Klamath falls ...a pristine lake where the algae grows to look something like kelp.
03-14-2013, 12:09 AM #10
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True dat. But that is also due to candida albicans overgrowth. Keeping your gut healthy is a biggie.
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03-14-2013, 12:21 AM #11
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The liquid omega is absorbed right through the stomach lining or even just under the tongue. It's expensive but with the near identical nutritional profile I imagine that this could nearly supplement your entire food intake if done in enough quantity.
03-14-2013, 12:25 AM #12
Octo Mother Superior
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I believe in a good diet, so we're eating right without supplements. At least there's still a good diet to be had.

But you're preaching to the choir here. chuckle.gif
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03-14-2013, 12:27 AM #13
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(03-14-2013, 12:09 AM)Octo Wrote:  True dat. But that is also due to candida albicans overgrowth. Keeping your gut healthy is a biggie.


Ya, if trying the mandrake trick I would then reset your gut with pro-biotics and continue to at least eat some sort of roughage like rice.

I am thinking that it is possible to do it in such a way that one never has to shït again. Not sure how that would affect the gut in the long term. I would think there might be some buildup still over time if trying the cocktail like the guy in the op's article suggests... maybe needing clearing out every so often? I wouldn't consider using mandrake more then once or at most twice a year. Regular use of that could be dangerous.
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03-14-2013, 12:29 AM #14
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(03-14-2013, 12:25 AM)Octo Wrote:  I believe in a good diet, so we're eating right without supplements. At least there's still a good diet to be had.

But you're preaching to the choir here. chuckle.gif


I can't afford the good stuff but I try to supplement with generic cheap brand of Super blue green algae on a daily basis. Should fill in any nutrient gaps and I wouldn't really consider it a supplement... it's a concentrated food.
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03-14-2013, 12:30 AM #15
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...and it's not the same as spirulena.

Which is still good too :) just not quite as.

I love the odwalla algae superfood drinks and their green superfood bars.



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