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06-08-2017, 05:31 PM #1
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Here is a list of alternative sustainable choices.

http://www.seachoice.org/seafood-recomme...titutions/

http://www.seachoice.org/wp-content/uplo...el_web.pdf

So, I won't be buying Atlantic Cod any more. Although I think I bought it once in the last five years any way. I will ask the owner of our favourite fish & chips restaurant where their haddock and cod come from too.
06-08-2017, 05:33 PM #2
Accidental Stoner Member
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Absolutely bloody not.
As in: Not eating farmed fish anymore.
They can keep it.

Wild fish or I eat something else.
06-08-2017, 05:37 PM #3
Octo Mother Superior
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I refuse anything from the Pacific, it has to be Atlantic or not at all. And I'm with AS on this, farmed fish is not sustainable. It takes I don't remember how many kilos of fish to produce 1 kilo of farmed salmon bleh.gif

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06-08-2017, 05:53 PM #4
Accidental Stoner Member
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Farmed fish - much like broilers or porkers -
must be medicated etc because of extreme
stress. And yet still they spread diseases.

As proven by the case of the Bothnian wild salmon :(

Not good at all for surrounding wild populations.
06-08-2017, 05:56 PM #5
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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If you guys click on the second link I provided, then you can see which wild ocean fish is still Okay to eat and which are not; it is all about making the right choice. You certainly don't have to eat any farmed fish if you don't want to.
06-08-2017, 05:58 PM #6
Accidental Stoner Member
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Well...sure, but I'd say the site at your link is sort of deviously
mudding the waters and in bed with big farm business.

Clearly, large scale fish farming is directly detrimental to sea health.
06-08-2017, 06:05 PM #7
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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You know AS, it all depends on how the fish are farmed and if contained properly. Not all farming practices are similar to the one below.

Quote:In contrast, farmed Atlantic salmon (most of which come from Canada) present a host of risks: the majority are raised in densely-stocked pens in coastal waters, a practice that often leads to pollution and disease and can threaten surrounding waters and native fish. Plus, due to their feed, farmed salmon contain significantly higher levels of PCBs than wild salmon, prompting the Environmental Defense Fund to warn against feeding kids more than one portion each month.

Also it appears fish farming is an ever-evolving and ever-growing industry that is trying to find solutions to the problems they are creating.

Quote: Fish farms themselves, especially ones that raise carnivorous fish, can be a large source of water pollution, including nitrogen and excess nutrients that can create toxic blooms and dead zones.34 Because fish are often raised in high densities to maximize profit, they can require antibiotics and other treatments for diseases, most of which end up in the water.35

These problems have led some researchers and fish farmers to consider alternative prac­tices that would minimize environmental harm while allowing increased aquaculture produc­tion. For example, integrated fish farming works at the ecosystem level, using a combination of fish, shellfish, and aquatic plants to filter wastes and provide a self-sustaining source of food.36 Integrated fish farming has been used outside major urban areas to raise fish for food and treat human wastes at the same time.37

With an ongoing food crisis and a growing world population, seafood production could potentially play a vital role in addressing food security and meeting development goals. Fish is highly nutritious and can be an important source of vitamins, minerals, and protein, even when consumed in minimal amounts.38 A recent World Bank survey showed that small-scale fish farming consistently pays off for workers by raising income, creating stable work, and increasing food supplies.39 However, not all seafood production is created equal: overfishing is linked to poverty, leading to fewer jobs and taking away an important source of income in developing countries.40

https://www.babble.com/best-recipes/safe...s-facts-5/

Aquaculture is the new fish industry of the future and I hope they continue to find ways to improve conditions so as to relieve overfishing of wild stocks.
06-08-2017, 06:20 PM #8
The Black Friar Member
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Makes me wet just thinking about it.
06-08-2017, 06:52 PM #9
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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I'm on the Road again
Pacific Northwest Shoreline in Pic
06-08-2017, 06:55 PM #10
Cynicalabsurdance Member
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Quote : " I will ask the owner of our favourite fish & chips restaurant where their haddock and cod come from too. "

Silly Girl , they come from Mama and Papa Haddock and Cod .
06-08-2017, 07:01 PM #11
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(06-08-2017, 06:55 PM)Cynicalabsurdance Wrote:  Quote : "  I will ask the owner of our favourite fish & chips restaurant where their haddock and cod come from too. "

Silly Girl , they come from Mama and Papa Haddock and Cod .

Let me know, I am very interested...but I wonder if they will lie to us about where they really come from?

Nice pic...I love the ocean and I only see it rarely...not good.
06-08-2017, 07:06 PM #12
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It's beautiful!

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06-08-2017, 07:20 PM #13
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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So, I phoned my fish & chips place and they answered me quickly, so I have no reason to think they are lying to me.

Their Cod is from the North Sea - thumbsup.gif

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/envi...able-fish/

Their Haddock is from New Zealand -

So, I can't find any information on haddock being sustainable in New Zealand.

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06-08-2017, 08:35 PM #14
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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We stopped eating anything from the Pacific due to Fukushima.

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06-08-2017, 08:40 PM #15
Octo Mother Superior
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Some stores have a display showing where the different fresh fish is caught.

Thankfully they have to label everything here

A pocket guide to the EU’s new fish and aquaculture consumer labels
https://ec.europa.eu/fisheries/sites/fis...ide_en.pdf



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