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Has something changed in the Earths Axis ?, Indiginous people say so. Should we listen?
09-26-2011, 08:35 PM #1
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Quote:Why are Indiginous tribes saying something has changed with the Earths Axis

By Louistheguy – Sovereign Independent.


Many ancient tribes have spoken of the changes in the Sun, the moon and the positioning of the stars. Its important to remember, that whilst we sit with sat nav, road signs, and taxis, these tribes of people still use the sky for their directions to and from their homes. A case in point is the Inuit people, who have talked of this shift in the axis....http://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=27308

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5U1FTP-D...r_embedded
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09-26-2011, 08:59 PM #2
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Interesting Thanks Prometheus

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09-26-2011, 09:08 PM #3
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Yeah I saw that 13.gif Strange I've not heard anybody else noticing any changes hmm.gif
09-26-2011, 09:57 PM #4
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Quote: From the channel video

Moon Orbit Wrong Cornell University associate Lorenzo Lorio, Has Researched i'm sure because of public outcry & observations made by You, my Friends, Visitors & others on the Internet and Concluded that Indeed there Is Something Wrong With The Sun Moon & Earth. Taking into account a possible Planet X Saying, "A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object like Planet X" Cornell University tells us that

Quote: "On the anomalous secular increase of the eccentricity of the orbit of the Moon. The present-day models of the dissipative phenomena occurring in the interiors of both the Earth and the Moon are not able to explain it. A recent analysis ( Prior1st Feb 2011 (Netlethe) ) of a Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) data record spanning 38.7 yrs, revealed an anomalous increase of the eccentricity of the lunar orbit.

A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object (Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche) since it, actually, would affect e with a non-vanishing long-term variation. " Unquote.

Thank You for participating & submitting your reports.

By: Lorenzo Lorio, through Cornell University

General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology

TITLE: "On the anomalous secular increase of the eccentricity of the orbit of the Moon"

(Submitted on 1 Feb 2011 (v1), last revised 21 Feb 2011 (this version, v3)
Google the above TITLE, and find more info.
Abstract::
A recent analysis of a Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) data record spanning 38.7 yr revealed an anomalous increase of the eccentricity of the lunar orbit amounting to de/dt_meas = (9 +/- 3) 10^-12 yr^-1.

The present-day models of the dissipative phenomena occurring in the interiors of both the Earth and the Moon are not able to explain it.

We examine several dynamical effects, not modelled in the data analysis, in the framework of long-range modified models of gravity and of the standard Newtonian/Einsteinian paradigm.

It turns out that none of them can accommodate de/dt_meas. Many of them do not even induce long-term changes in e; other models do, instead, yield such an effect, but the resulting magnitudes are in disagreement with de/dt_meas.

In particular, the general relativistic gravitomagnetic acceleration of the Moon due to the Earth's angular momentum has the right order of magnitude, but the resulting Lense-Thirring secular effect for the eccentricity vanishes.

A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object (Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche) since it, actually, would affect e with a non-vanishing long-term variation.

On the other hand, the values for the physical and orbital parameters of such a hypothetical body required to obtain the right order of magnitude for de/dt are completely unrealistic.

Moreover, they are in neat disagreement with both the most recent theoretical scenarios envisaging the existence of a distant, planetary-sized body and with the model-independent constraints on them dynamically inferred from planetary motions.

Thus, the issue of finding a satisfactorily explanation for the anomalous behaviour of the Moon's eccentricity remains open.

*1. Dissipative Phenomena

"Frictional and dissipative terms of the Schrödinger equation are studied. A proof is given showing that the frictional term of the Schrödinger-Langevin equation causes the quantum system to lose energy. General expressions are derived for the frictional term of the Schrödinger equation."

Web-Search: "dissipative phenomena"

PDF Link & much info
http://arxiv.org/list/physics.space-ph/recent

09-26-2011, 11:06 PM #5
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İmage
09-26-2011, 11:32 PM #6
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İmage
I've had this suspicion since the Sun rising earlier threads in the Nordic latitudes. wtf2.gif

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09-26-2011, 11:50 PM #7
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Yes, 6-7 inches from the earthquake offshore Japan last I heard. However I could be wrong flap flap
09-27-2011, 12:13 AM #8
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Close Taco, was 25 cm or about 9.5" for the axis shift due to the quake, not to mention Japan is 12' closer to the US now, but the point was the apparent deviation in the lunar orbit per the Cornell University Paper.

My interest was initially piqued when the Sun rose on in a small burg called Ilulissat in Greenland on January 11th. Ilulissat is north of the arctic circle so it experiences 24 hours of darkness for several weeks. Nothing unusual there.

The unusual part is that the Sun usually rises again on January 13th. Therefore, the Sun came back two days early and the question is why.

Save for the Japan EQ Earth’s rotational axis has certainly not changed and that on a planetary scale is negligible, yet no explanation I've heard satisfies me as to why the sun rose 48 hours early.

Astronomers use telescopes every night and measure the positions of stars down to tenths of an arc second (or finer) resolution every night.

No doom there, but those same astronomers HAVE noticed the Lunar orbit is out of whack. All the pieces do not fit together but there is enough evidence to say we have some genuine anomalies taking place, and there are no good explanations at this point.

Quote:Quote: "On the anomalous secular increase of the eccentricity of the orbit of the Moon. The present-day models of the dissipative phenomena occurring in the interiors of both the Earth and the Moon are not able to explain it. A recent analysis ( Prior1st Feb 2011 (Netlethe) ) of a Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) data record spanning 38.7 yrs, revealed an anomalous increase of the eccentricity of the lunar orbit.


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09-27-2011, 12:33 AM #9
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(09-26-2011, 11:06 PM)Octo Wrote:  İmage
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09-27-2011, 01:44 AM #10
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JR, guess the axis shift is either debate-able or a reporting error. However I did say I could be wrong however always disliked being proved wrong

"Friday's massive earthquake may have shifted Japan's main coastline by up to 13 feet to the east, experts tell the BBC, citing the country's network of 1,200 GPS monitoring stations.

A member of the British Geological Survey said such movement was "in line with what you get when you have an earthquake this big." The Japan Meteorological Agency has raised the quake's magnitude to 9; the U.S. Geological Survey puts it at 8.9.

The GeoNet GPS network is the world's largest.

And besides losing an hour to Daylight Saving Time, your days will be permanently shorter because of the quake. It may have knocked Earth off its axis by about 6.5 inches, causing our world to rotate faster and shortening the day -- by about 1.8 millionths of a second.

Also, if you're wondering whether the quake has an official name, it does. The JMA has crowned it "The 2011 off the Pacific coast of Tohoku Earthquake."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/...off-axis/1

OMG there's Pelicans dying down there!!! chuckle.gif

09-27-2011, 02:00 AM #11
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(09-27-2011, 01:44 AM)Tacolover II Wrote:  However I did say I could be wrong however always disliked being proved wrong

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I relish being put in my place personally. chuckle.gif

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