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Her Strut
04-07-2014, 06:19 PM #1
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This intense "Her Strut" released by Bob Seger in 1980 was written about seeing Jane Fonda on television walking up to the podium and speaking during an anti Vietnam War rally in Washington D.C during the early 1970s and it takes a helluva lot of courage to dare and stand up and speak out against any governments evil war machine and knowing that certainly enhances another dimension to this f###en awesome rock and roll song...



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04-07-2014, 07:20 PM #2
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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Jane Fonda did regret some of her actions...

Quote:I would like to say something, not just to Vietnam veterans in New England, but to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did. I was trying to help end the killing and the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I'm very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their families. [...] I will go to my grave regretting the photograph of me in an anti-aircraft gun, which looks like I was trying to shoot at American planes. It hurt so many soldiers. It galvanized such hostility. It was the most horrible thing I could possibly have done. It was just thoughtless

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Fonda#Regrets

I feel she was just so young and stupid to think she could do anything to stop a war. Run through the jungle, no strutting.

04-07-2014, 07:57 PM #3
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lol.gif My grandfather hated what she did in Nam. I don't remember Viet Nam, but he talked about it till his death in the 80's.
She really pissed a lot of people off.

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04-07-2014, 08:31 PM #4
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ever consider that was the plan ?

that she was manipulated to be a poster child to generate HATE in people

and to get people to support the war with greater enthusiasm ?

Like Timothy Leary being manipulated .

and they never even knew it .

if you want support

you need an enemy , in this case , home grown enemies .


like the C.I.A. shills who spit on returning soldiers , conveniently in front of news cameras
at the airport .

think about that

nothing in the Military industrial run world

is ever as easy as it LOOKS
04-07-2014, 08:34 PM #5
jaydoom i am doom
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I did not know that , thanks for posting .ive always love this song!
04-08-2014, 04:08 PM #6
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(04-07-2014, 08:34 PM)jaydoom Wrote:  I did not know that , thanks for posting .ive always love this song!
I think its so easily his best song that sounds like nothing else i've ever heard from him (*-*)
04-08-2014, 04:18 PM #7
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(04-07-2014, 07:57 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  lol.gif My grandfather hated what she did in Nam. I don't remember Viet Nam, but he talked about it till his death in the 80's.
She really pissed a lot of people off.
All war is warped and twisted and horrible no matter what side of the conflict is being dehumanized and no matter what side is doing the dehumanizing and i think maybe Jane Fonda was trying to show in some way how the other side "the enemy" were only humans like everyone else is,but whatever her reasoning,it certainly does take a lot of courage for anyone who dares to stand up and speak out against governments and their evil war machines,because we all know too damn well how its not politically correct and its not socially acceptable to stand up and speak out against governments and their evil war machines and as long as we murder who tptb command us to murder we'll be seen and thought of and treated like f###en heros,but if we murder who we want to murder we'll be seen and thought of and treated like f###en rabid wild animals and thrown into steel cages,but anyway we look at it its all wrong and the only winners in war are the royal bloodline elites who initiate them...
04-08-2014, 04:35 PM #8
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(04-08-2014, 04:18 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(04-07-2014, 07:57 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  lol.gif My grandfather hated what she did in Nam. I don't remember Viet Nam, but he talked about it till his death in the 80's.
She really pissed a lot of people off.
All war is warped and twisted and horrible no matter what side of the conflict is being dehumanized and no matter what side is doing the dehumanizing and i think maybe Jane Fonda was trying to show in some way how the other side "the enemy" were only humans like everyone else is,but whatever her reasoning,it certainly does take a lot of courage for anyone who dares to stand up and speak out against governments and their evil war machines,because we all know too damn well how its not politically correct and its not socially acceptable to stand up and speak out against governments and their evil war machines and as long as we murder who tptb command us to murder we'll be seen and thought of and treated like f###en heros,but if we murder who we want to murder we'll be seen and thought of and treated like f###en rabid wild animals and thrown into steel cages,but anyway we look at it its all wrong and the only winners in war are the royal bloodline elites who initiate them...

Jane Fonda could have joined the existing protesters, but she chose to do it her way and even though she botched it up, she did regret some of her actions, but her intentions were to help stop that war.
04-08-2014, 04:45 PM #9
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Whatever she regrets or doesnt regret doing and saying in the past shes still doing and saying more or less the same things now "her strut" up to podiums and microphones standing up and speaking out against evil war and those who initiate them and remember how it was mostly thanx to the continuous protesting of her youthful generations flower power make love not war hippies and student radicals as to why the vietnam war ended when it did and why the mandatory draft was abolished soon after and why there still isnt one in america...



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04-08-2014, 05:04 PM #10
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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wave.gif beyond.

You will note that she states that she hasn't voiced her protests in 34 years, so it looks like she has forgiven herself and will never again be manipulated by anyone.

I think Cy was right about her being manipulated long ago, but I agree that her stance is the same, and so much more robust, confident and courageous, now.
04-08-2014, 05:06 PM #11
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(04-08-2014, 04:08 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(04-07-2014, 08:34 PM)jaydoom Wrote:  I did not know that , thanks for posting .ive always love this song!
I think its so easily his best song that sounds like nothing else i've ever heard from him (*-*)

It was a pretty unique guitar riff. I liked that far better than the vast majority of his other stuff. He was on the verge of country music, and I didn't really like it at all.
Ever notice Metallica does a version of turn the page but Seger never reciprocated by covering Master of Puppets? 37.gif

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04-08-2014, 05:18 PM #12
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(04-08-2014, 05:06 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(04-08-2014, 04:08 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(04-07-2014, 08:34 PM)jaydoom Wrote:  I did not know that , thanks for posting .ive always love this song!
I think its so easily his best song that sounds like nothing else i've ever heard from him (*-*)

It was a pretty unique guitar riff. I liked that far better than the vast majority of his other stuff. He was on the verge of country music, and I didn't really like it at all.
Ever notice Metallica does a version of turn the page but Seger never reciprocated by covering Master of Puppets? 37.gif
I could easily think of a hundred soft and hard rock examples that i would love to hear like Black Sabbath covering Led Zeppelins Stairway To Heaven and Rush covering Iron Maidens Number Of The Beast ect ect ect (*-*)
04-08-2014, 05:21 PM #13
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04-08-2014, 05:21 PM #14
jaydoom i am doom
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(04-08-2014, 05:06 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(04-08-2014, 04:08 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(04-07-2014, 08:34 PM)jaydoom Wrote:  I did not know that , thanks for posting .ive always love this song!
I think its so easily his best song that sounds like nothing else i've ever heard from him (*-*)

It was a pretty unique guitar riff. I liked that far better than the vast majority of his other stuff. He was on the verge of country music, and I didn't really like it at all.
Ever notice Metallica does a version of turn the page but Seger never reciprocated by covering Master of Puppets? 37.gif


ha id love to hear seger do master of puppets!!rofl.gif
04-08-2014, 05:30 PM #15
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Or how about Metallica doing a cover version of Tiny Tims Tiptoe Through The Tulips?! damn thats a lotta letter T's (*---*)




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