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I Knew Pope Francis Was Good, But When I Found Out Everything He Did in 2013, I Was Blown Away
01-02-2014, 09:37 AM #1
Wayne5 Member
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1. He spoke out against frivolous spending by the Church
2. He invited a boy with Down's Syndrome for a ride in the Popemobile
3. He embraced and kissed Vinicio Riva
4. He denounced the judgment of homosexuals
5. He held a major ceremony at the chapel of a youth prison
6. He urged the protection of the Amazon Rainforest
7. He personally called and consoled a victim of rape
8. He snuck out of the Vatican to feed the homeless
9. He auctioned his motorcycle to benefit the homeless
10. He acknowledged that atheists can be good people
11. He condemned the global financial system
12. He fought child abuse
13. He condemned the violence of the Syrian civil war
14. He redirected employee bonuses to charity
15. He spoke out against the Church’s ‘obsession’ with abortion, gay marriage and contraception
16. He called for cooperation between Christians and Muslims
17. He took part in a selfie
18. He invited homeless men to his birthday meal
19. He refused to send away a child who had run on stage to hug him

01-02-2014, 10:49 AM #2
Wayne5 Member
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77 years (December 17, 1936) He might last a decade. If he does this much year after year he will set a standard that will last after he is gone. I"m not Roman Catholic. I just give credit where credit is due.

01-02-2014, 11:36 AM #3
Accidental Stoner Member
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He perpetuates the age old lie
about people having to turn to
ancient desert goat shepherd
people's obscure deity, in order
to possibly be able to understand
their own spirituality.

While the absolutely obvious fact
is that existence is fractal in nature;
- spiritual teaching thusly not real.
Learning only.

The War On Love is very old.
The POO just call it different names, as
the need arises.

But a good man is a good man. cheers.gif
01-02-2014, 11:47 AM #4
Wayne5 Member
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No actually. The struggle between the protestants and the Catholics is alive and well in America. Lately there has been a joining of forces between the right wing evangelicals and the Catholics over some social issues. I don't think it would be prudent for you to go back the RCC but let me encourage you to go looking for a Gay church. Yes there are some. The idea that Gay people can't have a relationship with God is ridiculous.

Jesus kept listing all the people that couldn't go to heaven, adulterers, divorced people, rich people, till he listed everyone. He said you didn't have to commit the sin to be guilty of it, all you had to do is think about it. It got so bad that the apostles got worried. Peter asked "Well who can be saved?" Jesus told him nobody, "but God can do what man cannot." Sin sin sin don't sin is not the gospel. The gospel is the "good news" and everyone going to hell is not good news. The good news is that you can have a relationship with God and still be a sinful person. How simple is it? The guy hanging on the cross next to Jesus just said "remember me when you come into your kingdom". Jesus said "I will see you today in paradise." You go looking for Him and He will find you.

01-02-2014, 11:53 AM #5
Accidental Stoner Member
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No, actually, there is absolutely nothing,
by any humanly conceivable parameters,
that would make "YHWH" or "Jesus" more
real than Ukko or Lemminkäinen.

Or Odin, Quetzalcoatl or the Flying Spaghetti

The idea that distant desert goat shepherd
people's god is the only one for all, is what
seems ridiculous.

But to each his own.
Personally, I prefer free and basic thinking.

With all respect.
01-02-2014, 12:01 PM #6
Wayne5 Member
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Stoner He was a carpenter. He didn't heard sheep or goats. And He's real good at making men into marriage material. You might consider giving Him a try. You got nothing to lose.

01-02-2014, 12:19 PM #7
Wayne5 Member
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I do mean well ribbon. I am glad that you are spiritual. I am also glad that you have chosen not to be offended when you could have. I count you as a friend and I except you the way you are. This is just the way I am. You put up with me and I'll put up with you. That's what being friends is all about.

01-02-2014, 12:37 PM #8
NODOOM Truthtard
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Well I promised my Guru that I would not get involved in Religious debate.

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Life is like a penny, you can spend it on what you like, but you can ONLY spend it once.


01-02-2014, 12:51 PM #9
Wayne5 Member
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A guru is just a teacher or guide that you trust And we are not debating. I am being myself and ribbon is doing the same.

NODOOM is being himself as well.

I'm glad for us all.
01-02-2014, 01:12 PM #10
Wayne5 Member
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I have been this way sense I was 4 or 5. I don't do well in churches because I think for myself just like you. I stand by my friends no mater what they believe.

got to crash. Hang in there everyone.
01-02-2014, 02:05 PM #11
Accidental Stoner Member
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(01-02-2014, 12:37 PM)NODOOM Wrote:  Well I promised my Guru that I would not get involved in Religious debate.

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I know, I know, man.


01-02-2014, 02:12 PM #12
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

No religion required, screw that middleman that wants your money to "bring you closer to god", when nothing could be further from the truth.

01-02-2014, 02:14 PM #13
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(01-02-2014, 12:01 PM)Wayne5 Wrote:  Stoner He was a carpenter. He didn't heard sheep or goats. And He's real good at making men into marriage material. You might consider giving Him a try. You got nothing to lose.


All respect to him, whatever he was.

(Paradoxically, I think he would've understood exactly what I'm saying.)

Every subpart holds the truth of the whole.

All a spiritual teacher, guru or priest can do, is to place himself between
his adept and the light. Which was self-evident to my proud ancestors.
Nothing but brute military force and violence replaced that basic, natural
knowledge with Hvite Krist and "YHWH" of, quite frankly, a distant herdsman

Anything but you yourself..eh?
Sort of my problem with religion.

All respect to Jesus of Israel,

but I'll go with Lemminkäinen of Kaleva, if forced to choose.

Now, the need for the elite to separate the slave class from their own
inner lives spells absolutely nothing but p-o-l-i-t-i-c-s to me.

Appreciate your friendliness, though, Wayne5 cheers.gif

And you're spot-on about me not being marriage material.
01-02-2014, 02:17 PM #14
Octo Mother Superior
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I bet Jesus hates dogma. coffeetime.gif
01-02-2014, 06:47 PM #15
Softy Incognito Anonymous
The Roman Empire,,,a very big hard core deal,,,

owned the civilized world,,,

worshipped many gods,,,had it figured out,,,

they slew Him,,,

later on,,,worshipped Him,,,

now that is impressive...




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