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I got it, I know what's the whole problem with the world
12-05-2014, 02:56 PM #16
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(12-05-2014, 12:19 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  That's a good point. It means distribution methods are out of whack, and those involved see lives as expendable, or they are simply incompetent.
The way the cold cruel world gig is run, my bet is on lives are expendable.

So true. With a population approaching 7 billion I keep waiting for a cull of some kind.

I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side. Just one thing I got to know. Who won?
12-05-2014, 03:02 PM #17
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(12-05-2014, 02:55 PM)Octo Wrote:  hmm.gif Seems to be a bunch of Pisceans and Libras here 13.gif

Yay! beercheer.gif

have never cared for what star signs mean or say ; but I'm a virgoean, Oct you've got a clue if that suits my type? (just as you can figure it out ofcourse) lmao.gif

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12-05-2014, 03:11 PM #18
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I don't pay too much attention to the astrology scene I have to admit. I read a Libra's worst match would be a Piscean and that turned out to be complete bullshit. chuckle.gif
12-05-2014, 03:19 PM #19
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12-05-2014, 03:35 PM #20
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(12-05-2014, 10:46 AM)Cloud Atlas Wrote:  
(12-04-2014, 08:39 PM)misterbumps Wrote:  İmage

are you sure?
for example Nr.1 in the chart 'Extreme Poverty' - is it the problem or is it the result of other problems?

The world produces enough to provide everyone in the world with at least 2,720 kilocalories (kcal) per person per day according to the most recent estimate (FAO 2002, p.9).

corruption
war/ armed conflicts
human rights abuses
climate change
state of global economy
violation of worker's rights
growing power of global companies
religious fundamentalism
transnational migration

^ they all are good candidates for the source of poverty.
12-05-2014, 03:49 PM #21
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(12-05-2014, 12:19 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  That's a good point. It means distribution methods are out of whack, and those involved see lives as expendable, or they are simply incompetent.
The way the cold cruel world gig is run, my bet is on lives are expendable.
I remember watching television commercials forty years ago showing starving kids in africa and then asking us for money to send for them (like yeah i can imagine how much if any of that mega cash is actually given to help them) and here and now forty years later the same damn commercials about the same damn problems and so why do sooooo many people keep having sooooo many babies ( i mean like millions upon millions of them continuously) within third world hell holes where they know their kids will be doomed and most likely starve and suffer and die way too young?! well most likely its because most of those kids are rape babies forcibly conceived by barbaric uneducated evil excuses for men and their oppressed and terrorized women have no legal ways to receive any real help of any kind whatsoever and so this warped and twisted chain of faith shattering misery and decay goes on and on and on as these damnation condemned kids are unknowingly being forced to represent a never ending horror flow of blood sacrificed humans within this wicked fallen world...

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12-05-2014, 04:02 PM #22
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When discussing poverty I think it relevant to consider The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck. It was published in 1939 and is as prevalent today as it was on first release. It is basically a retelling of the exodus and has major parallels with the current E.U situation. Banks and corporations foreclosing on land and placing people in debt with loss of jobs and income. All those people have no choice but to migrate to richer areas for work causing those richer areas to struggle to deal with the increased migration. This is what is happening in the U.K at the moment with lots of Eastern European migrants coming here to work when there is not enough work already and the strain on the welfare system and the N.H.S is causing us natives to question government immigration policy and why it is a major theme of the next general election. I understand and sympathise with those who come here but all it does is decrease wages due to companies having more choices with regards to workers and these low paid jobs pay little tax and most of the money leaves these shores. An average house in the U.K costs £250,000 and most of my friends cannot get on the housing ladder whilst immigrants work here for a few years and can buy a house in their country for £25,000. If I was an immigrant I would do the same but it is unfair on those of us who live in the U.K who are undergoing a cost of living crisis which is partly down to employers offering lower wages because more people are needing jobs. The amount of upper class people using Asian nannies is one example as is those in construction coming from other European nations and offering to work more cheaply whilst saving money by flat sharing with ten others and spending the money outside of Britain. In London we have over 600,000 French people which is incredible. Most low end jobs taken are poorly waged but if immigration was controlled companies would have to increase wages. I think Australia has it right even if it causes controversy with the rest of the world.

Such a hot topic and one I only understand a small proportion of. I can see the U.K leaving the E.U next year.

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12-05-2014, 05:45 PM #23
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I may come across a bit far right but next year I'll be voting Labour as I always do. I'm a socialist at heart but I just hope they don't drop the ball on immigration and their only negative is they won't give the country a referendum on Europe as the Conservatives will but those darn Tory rich kids are breaking the backs of the poor by cutting welfare and front-line services whilst spending billions on two aircraft carriers and the fighter jets to put on them. U.K.I.P look value for money but they are in the same position as the Lib Dems were ten years ago. In time they will become a major party if they continue their recent by-election successes and there is a tiny chance that this next general election could form another coalition. I'm hoping if this happens it will be a Labour and U.K.I.P one but that's a shot in a million. They would however keep each other in check.

I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side. Just one thing I got to know. Who won?
12-05-2014, 06:22 PM #24
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Saying you're a socialist would get you trolled and banned at some venues. It's an education issue...
or more precisely, lack thereof. chuckle.gif

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12-05-2014, 06:32 PM #25
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(12-05-2014, 06:22 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Saying you're a socialist would get you trolled and banned at some venues. It's an education issue...
or more precisely, lack thereof. chuckle.gif

I would agree with that statement and add that we all need to start creatively thinking, researching and using common sense for ourselves. After all, isn't that what the great inventors, scientists and masters did; they stepped out of the box?
12-05-2014, 07:02 PM #26
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(12-05-2014, 06:32 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(12-05-2014, 06:22 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  Saying you're a socialist would get you trolled and banned at some venues. It's an education issue...
or more precisely, lack thereof. chuckle.gif

I would agree with that statement and add that we all need to start creatively thinking, researching and using common sense for ourselves. After all, isn't that what the great inventors, scientists and masters did; they stepped out of the box?

being a socialist is the best we have at present when considering the three main parties on offer in next year's general election. Or should I say two what with the lib dems shooting themselves in the foot with education fees.

true socialism is about creative thinking...Labour is intrinsically linked with the Fabian group, check them out...


http://www.fabians.org.uk/about/

What we stand for
We aim to promote:

greater equality of power, wealth and opportunity
the value of collective action and public service
an accountable, tolerant and active democracy
citizenship, liberty and human rights
sustainable development
multilateral international cooperation

I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side. Just one thing I got to know. Who won?
12-05-2014, 07:20 PM #27
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Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy,[1][2] as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.[3][4] "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.

creatively thinking, researching and using common sense for ourselves is at the heart of true socialism and groups like the Fabian party encourage this. That's why my vote is with the 99 percent. Check out the Conservative manifesto - there is little evidence of a change in ideas and thinking and it serves the 1 percent always.

I can see by your coat my friend you're from the other side. Just one thing I got to know. Who won?
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12-05-2014, 07:44 PM #28
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The problem with the world = Greed
12-05-2014, 07:53 PM #29
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12-06-2014, 02:02 AM #30
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(12-05-2014, 07:53 PM)Cosmic August Wrote:  İmage

how about lack of extreem middleness ?!i



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