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I have a question on reincarnation
CAtholic Show this Post
05-07-2017, 08:28 AM #1
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Sometimes I am worried about reincarnation and I wonder if I am the incarnation of some other creature or worse I worry that after I die I may end up incarnating some other innocent and unsuspecting creature??
Does any expert here know exactly how the incarnation process actually works??
Does it happen at the moment of conception or at the moment of birth?
If it happens at conception who is the incarnation vehicle ? The sperm or the egg??
Does this mean that the incarnant determines the sex of the baby depending on wether the spirit seeking to incarnate is male or female??
I think that this is the reason why we have humans who end up hose caul or transsexual
It happens when a male embryo gets incarnated by a female spirit or vice versa.
I am annoyed that the bible and quran and Gita do not give us much clue on this very important subject??
05-07-2017, 11:18 AM #2
Mars Member
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It's in the Gnostic texts. The First Council of Nicaea was a council of Christian bishops that convened in the Bithynian city of Nicaea by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325. Members axed all references to reincarnation, as they were all highly wealthy and influential and could not deal with the thought of coming back as a pauper.
Catholic Show this Post
05-07-2017, 12:03 PM #3
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(05-07-2017, 11:18 AM)Mars Wrote:  It's in the Gnostic texts. The First Council of Nicaea was a council of Christian bishops that convened in the Bithynian city of Nicaea by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325. Members axed all references to reincarnation, as they were all highly wealthy and influential and could not deal with the thought of coming back as a pauper.

yes, but...at what point does re-incarnation occur?
is it at the moment of conception? when the sperm hits the egg or is it at birth when the baby takes the first breath of fresh air?
so who decides who incarnates who?
are all the dead souls waiting in line for their turn in the queue to incarnate someone or is it at random?
can the incarnator choose the incarnatee?

is every human on the planet a re-incarnated being? or only very few humans are re-incarnated?

I need to know how the system works.
05-07-2017, 12:10 PM #4
Octo Mother Superior
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(05-07-2017, 12:03 PM)Catholic Wrote:  I need to know how the system works.

You will know when you die, if ever
Catholic Show this Post
05-07-2017, 12:22 PM #5
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(05-07-2017, 12:10 PM)Octo Wrote:  
(05-07-2017, 12:03 PM)Catholic Wrote:  I need to know how the system works.

You will know when you die, if ever

yes but I don't understand what is the point of reincarnating if I have no recollection my previous life?
How can I learn from the mistakes of my past lives if I don't remember what my mistakes were in the first place?
and like the wise men say : history always repeats itself and people who do not learn from their mistakes are bound to repeat them...
so how can I learn if I don't know what it is I did wrong?
every Friday evening I go to confession to Father O'Reilly and he always asks me to confess my sins and i have to keep saying : sorry Father! I did not commit any sins this week. or sometimes I have to confess to small minor venial sins I did not even commit just to give a semblance of normality.
05-07-2017, 12:35 PM #6
Octo Mother Superior
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Well I think one mistake would be being deeply religious. It's the wall that keeps you from your god.
05-07-2017, 12:50 PM #7
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05-07-2017, 01:36 PM #8
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So I suppose religious and shallow is the answer.
05-07-2017, 03:29 PM #9
Accidental Stoner Member
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(05-07-2017, 12:22 PM)Catholic Wrote:  yes but I don't understand what is the point of reincarnating if I have no recollection my previous life?
How can I learn from the mistakes of my past lives if I don't remember what my mistakes were in the first place?
and like the wise men say : history always repeats itself and people who do not learn from their mistakes are bound to repeat them...
so how can I learn if I don't know what it is I did wrong?
every Friday evening I go to confession to Father O'Reilly and he always asks me to confess my sins and i have to keep saying : sorry Father! I did not commit any sins this week. or sometimes I have to confess to small minor venial sins I did not even commit just to give a semblance of normality.

The theory would be that it is your 'eternal soul' who is learning,
not the personality-in-flesh you're currently temporarily carrying.

But the more enlightened your soul, the easier for your incarnation
to 'remember'.

Me, I strongly suspect that nobody knows and nobody ever knew
and nobody will ever know...at least not alive.

People's and peoples' imagining and hunches and speculations
take beautiful forms, at times, though. Like The Book Of The Dead,
for instance.

Personally, I'm quite happy not knowing the unknowable. :)
Stop listening to the 'ascended masters', would be my advise.
Listen to the ancient song of your ancestors' and future
descendants' blood in your veins, instead.

What is 'now'..?
It certainly isn't 'time'.
It is something else.

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05-07-2017, 03:32 PM #10
Accidental Stoner Member
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Ahem...

My completely useless advice, that would be.

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It is sumtin everyone figures out for themselves cheers.gif

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05-07-2017, 03:43 PM #11
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(05-07-2017, 03:29 PM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  People's and peoples' imagining and hunches and speculations
take beautiful forms, at times, though. Like The Book Of The Dead,
for instance.


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You're talking the Egyptian version right? Not the Necronoimicon
https://www.amazon.com/Necronomicon-Simon/dp/0380751925
People should really stay away from that.

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05-07-2017, 03:49 PM #12
Accidental Stoner Member
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Actually, the Tibetan variant rises 1st to the top of my mind.

But whatever floats whomever's boat, as long as they don't hurt anybody else, body nor soul ;)
05-07-2017, 05:24 PM #13
eclipsed Member
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OP, do you remember being born?

do you remember any time spent in the womb?

do you or have you heard of anyone who says they do?
05-07-2017, 05:37 PM #14
eclipsed Member
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over in stewart swerdlows forum, whatever that place is called, there is a post called:

do YOU remember being born? i do...

i wrote it out one day like ten years ago just so i wouldnt forget.

as for MOMENT of conception i really cant say...but soon afterwards, when the baby has grown arms and legs the memory is there, for me.

it is a long story.... violin.gif
05-07-2017, 05:49 PM #15
Meh Member
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I don't believe I've ever heard anyone say that before. spock.gif That's quite Intriguing.



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