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I have a question on reincarnation
05-09-2017, 11:21 AM #31
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(05-09-2017, 11:03 AM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Well...I don't know much, but I know this:

- Never underestimate the power of human fantasy and imagination.


iagree.gif Fantasy and imagination can give birth to reality.

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05-09-2017, 12:02 PM #32
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(05-09-2017, 11:21 AM)Strigoi Wrote:  
(05-09-2017, 11:03 AM)Accidental Stoner Wrote:  Well...I don't know much, but I know this:

- Never underestimate the power of human fantasy and imagination.


iagree.gif Fantasy and imagination can give birth to reality.

Mostly inside people's heads, though chuckle.gif

But of course.
One might even argue that all human activity springs from there.
05-09-2017, 01:07 PM #33
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That's what I meant. Thanks for clearing that up for me. chuckle.gif

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05-09-2017, 01:20 PM #34
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catholics are just... ƒükkêd up.

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05-09-2017, 01:25 PM #35
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05-09-2017, 01:33 PM #36
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(05-07-2017, 05:56 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(05-07-2017, 05:37 PM)eclipsed Wrote:  over in stewart swerdlows forum, whatever that place is called, there is a post called:

do YOU remember being born? i do...

i wrote it out one day like ten years ago just so i wouldnt forget.

as for MOMENT of conception i really cant say...but soon afterwards, when the baby has grown arms and legs the memory is there, for me.

it is a long story.... violin.gif

Wow... Any recollection of a prior existence?
Funny I hove no birth recollection, but back in my tripping days I had a recollection of something that happened back in the womb.
I ask my mother if if was true and her mouth dropped open.
Because of that, I'm open to anything along those lines.

Gonna leave us hanging like that?

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I am not your rolling wheels, I am the highway
I am not your carpet ride I am the sky
I am not your blowing wind, I am the lightning
I am not your autumn moon, I am the night
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05-09-2017, 01:35 PM #37
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(05-07-2017, 06:29 PM)Octo Wrote:  I'm kinda blown away by the fact I'm not familiar with Stewart Swerdlow.  blink.gif


Anyway, I don't remember my time in the womb, but I do have memories from very early, when I was about 8 months old.

I used to follow him back in my early days on the interwebs. Lets just say that if you want to read his work it will cost you.

I am not your rolling wheels, I am the highway
I am not your carpet ride I am the sky
I am not your blowing wind, I am the lightning
I am not your autumn moon, I am the night
The night
05-09-2017, 01:36 PM #38
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The Norse believed you were reincarnated into your own bloodline.

I am not your rolling wheels, I am the highway
I am not your carpet ride I am the sky
I am not your blowing wind, I am the lightning
I am not your autumn moon, I am the night
The night
05-10-2017, 01:21 PM #39
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yes but I don't understand what is the point of reincarnating if I have no recollection my previous life?
How can I learn from the mistakes of my past lives if I don't remember what my mistakes were in the first place?
and like the wise men say : history always repeats itself and people who do not learn from their mistakes are bound to repeat them...
so how can I learn if I don't know what it is I did wrong?
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Reincarnation is one thing that cannot be proven or unproven by science, it's not like a fossil to test it of billions years old.
Some may claim that there are clues or signs that seem strange, like dreams and deja vus that have no other explanations except making belief in reincarnation stronger. There are very interesting theories build upon observing young children or even babies who perform abilities that surprise adults and make them wonder how could they have learnt them.

To come to the question by the op "if I have no recollection my previous life, how can I learn if I don't know what it is I did wrong?", well I don't find it very difficult to understand. It's not the physical mind or body that learns and store lessons for a next life, it's the spiritual soul.

Murder and stealing are wrongs, [and you do not have to be religious to agree], yet we do not remember when we learned that they are wrong, they are [or became] natural spiritual instincts built in us. There are some people more sensitive than others that even killing animals is as much wrong.

We do many kinds of wrong things, small or big, and sometimes we are more conscious about a particular mistake than another, that we feel sad and sorry, maybe won't sleep and take days or years to forget about it and these are the lessons learnt by the soul. The wrong things that we don't care about are easily forgotten and we are bound to repeat them now or in any other life.

In this way we, our souls, may choose to strive towards spiritual perfection or else ignore mistakes and remain wrong. What could be Heaven and hell? - long reflection.

........... and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future

“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.” ― David Mitchell
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05-10-2017, 03:56 PM #40
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But if spirits dead souls wait eagerly to be reincarnated so they can start again

Why would Hindu low caste untouchable
Having gone thru a miserable life of suffering
Poverty hardship abuse and humiliation
From members of the upper caste
Why would they want to yearn for reincarnation into another cycle of abuse poverty rape starvation and humiliation by higher castes over and over???
Nor I understand why they call such people "suckers for punishment"
05-11-2017, 03:38 PM #41
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yes but I don't understand what is the point of reincarnating if I have no recollection my previous life?
How can I learn from the mistakes of my past lives if I don't remember what my mistakes were in the first place?
and like the wise men say : history always repeats itself and people who do not learn from their mistakes are bound to repeat them...
so how can I learn if I don't know what it is I did wrong?
[/quote]

Reincarnation is one thing that cannot be proven or unproven by science, it's not like a fossil to test it of billions years old.
Some may claim that there are clues or signs that seem strange, like dreams and deja vus that have no other explanations except making belief in reincarnation stronger. There are very interesting theories build upon observing young children or even babies who perform abilities that surprise adults and make them wonder how could they have learnt them.

To come to the question by the op "if I have no recollection my previous life, how can I learn if I don't know what it is I did wrong?", well I don't find it very difficult to understand. It's not the physical mind or body that learns and store lessons for a next life, it's the spiritual soul.

Murder and stealing are wrongs, [and you do not have to be religious to agree], yet we do not remember when we learned that they are wrong, they are [or became] natural spiritual instincts built in us. There are some people more sensitive than others that even killing animals is as much wrong.

We do many kinds of wrong things, small or big, and sometimes we are more conscious about a particular mistake than another, that we feel sad and sorry, maybe won't sleep and take days or years to forget about it and these are the lessons learnt by the soul. The wrong things that we don't care about are easily forgotten and we are bound to repeat them now or in any other life.

In this way we, our souls, may choose to strive towards spiritual perfection or else ignore mistakes and remain wrong. What could be Heaven and hell? - long reflection.

........... and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future
[/quote]

and by each crime and every kindness you are creating colors...
05-11-2017, 11:11 PM #42
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Interesting, especially after reading your other post about seeing that at birth.
05-12-2017, 09:22 AM #43
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[/quote]

and by each crime and every kindness you are creating colors...
[/quote]

LOLOL eclipse  wave.gif
creating colors is the easiest part

“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.” ― David Mitchell
05-12-2017, 05:27 PM #44
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(05-07-2017, 08:28 AM)CAtholic Wrote:  Sometimes I am worried about reincarnation and I wonder if I am the incarnation of some other creature or worse I worry that after I die I may end up incarnating some other innocent and unsuspecting creature??
Does any expert here know exactly how the incarnation process actually works??
Does it happen at the moment of conception or at the moment of birth?
If it happens at conception who is the incarnation vehicle ? The sperm or the egg??
Does this mean that the incarnant determines the sex of the baby depending on wether the spirit seeking to incarnate is male or female??
I think that this is the reason why we have humans who end up hose caul or transsexual
It happens when a male embryo gets incarnated by a female spirit or vice versa.
I am annoyed that the bible and quran and Gita do not give us much clue on this very important subject??

How it was explained to me by a psychic channeller is that the spirit (you) decides to enter a body (a fetus - no particular time was offered - so it may be at conception time or any time during gestation or actual physical birth - this is unknown to me, I should have asked but I didn't) and you even get to select your parents and environment due to whatever factors you feel would help you learn the lessons you need to learn in this new physical existence. Alternatively, if your parents decide to abort the fetus you are then freed once again to return to the selection process.
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05-13-2017, 03:06 AM #45
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(05-12-2017, 05:27 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(05-07-2017, 08:28 AM)CAtholic Wrote:  Sometimes I am worried about reincarnation and I wonder if I am the incarnation of some other creature or worse I worry that after I die I may end up incarnating some other innocent and unsuspecting creature??
Does any expert here know exactly how the incarnation process actually works??
Does it happen at the moment of conception or at the moment of birth?
If it happens at conception who is the incarnation vehicle ? The sperm or the egg??
Does this mean that the incarnant determines the sex of the baby depending on wether the spirit seeking to incarnate is male or female??
I think that this is the reason why we have humans who end up hose caul or transsexual
It happens when a male embryo gets incarnated by a female spirit or vice versa.
I am annoyed that the bible and quran and Gita do not give us much clue on this very important subject??

How it was explained to me by a psychic channeller is that the spirit (you) decides to enter a body (a fetus - no particular time was offered - so it may be at conception time or any time during gestation or actual physical birth - this is unknown to me, I should have asked but I didn't) and you even get to select your parents and environment due to whatever factors you feel would help you learn the lessons you need to learn in this new physical existence. Alternatively, if your parents decide to abort the fetus you are then freed once again to return to the selection process.
Maybe this is why they say that " a new fool is born every day"???

How else would you explain a spirit eagerly choosing to be reincarnated as a Hindu untouchable low caste in preference to choosing to incarnate as Casanova??



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