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'I think drinks with added sugar are, frankly, evil.’ says biological scientist
08-01-2012, 12:43 AM #1
Octo Mother Superior
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I'm glad to see some research popping up in mainstream media that supports what Dr. Mercola has been saying for years!

Long article about the nasties of sodas here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/articl...-evil.html

Rarely do you see a subject deemed evil in scientific research. damned.gif

Quote:The research, by Bangor University and published in the European Journal Of Nutrition, reported that soft drinks actually alter metabolism, so that our muscles use sugar for energy instead of burning fat.

It seems that exposure to liquid sugar causes genes in our muscles to change their behaviour, perhaps permanently.

This increased sudden sugar load on the body may also explain research which found just two carbonated drinks (330ml each) every week appears to double the risk of pancreatic cancer, reported the journal Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers and Prevention.

Meanwhile, soft drinks with high levels of fruit juice may cause severe long-term liver damage, according to an Israeli study.

People who drank two cans of these drinks a day were five times more likely to develop fatty liver disease — a precursor to cirrhosis and liver cancer.

The study of 346 children aged around 11 found drinking soft drinks makes them want to drink more often, even when they’re not actually thirsty — and that their preference is for more sugary drinks.

More recent research suggests fizzy drinks may sway children’s tastes towards high-calorie, high-salt food.

Part of this worrying phenomenon was revealed earlier this year by Oregon University investigators.

Their study of 75 children aged between three and five found those given sugary soft drinks avoided eating raw vegetables such as carrots or red peppers, but went for foods high in calories, such as chips.

This did not happen when the children were given water to drink.

‘At the same time, your brain reduces its desire for the taste of nutrients such as vitamins or minerals,’ says Dr Kubis. This is what makes these sugary drinks so habit-forming.

‘There is a huge overlap between what is addictive behaviour with drugs and the use of sweet food,’ he adds.

‘In lab experiments, even rats who have been made addicted to cocaine will prefer to have a sugary drink instead of cocaine.’
08-01-2012, 01:22 AM #2
Athenagoddess Member
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Yes I agree, but not not as bad as aspartame. Sugar over aspartame but no sugar is best.
Walked through a mall on my daughters birthday, cup cakes everywhere, what is with the cup cakes, yes they are pretty but poisonous.
By the way my daughter is 28, it was here birthday, trying to get her to think like I do.

Cupcakes poison, cookies poison, sweets poison, chocolates poison, was starting to get the info. You can only lead a horse to water, you can't make it drink. wave.gif
08-01-2012, 01:27 AM #3
Athenagoddess Member
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People at work think I am nuts, I only drink water, if they get a chance which is rare they drink tea or coffee. They often don't get a chance to drink at all on shift but I always have a bottle of water around, hidden as it can't be on show to drink. It should be everyones right to drink as needed. Not on the ward of a uk hospital.
08-01-2012, 11:23 AM #4
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:41,063 Threads:1,568 Joined:Feb 2011
That's ridiculous you have to hide your water! blink.gif

I think both sugar and artificial sweeteners should be avoided as they're both harmful to your health in different ways.

I also noticed this cupcakemania wtf2.gif We don't buy anything pre-maid as everything contains sugar these days. Crazy!

Need a dessert at night? Just go to the cupcake ATM.

08-01-2012, 03:54 PM #5
yankees skier
Posts:5,032 Threads:215 Joined:Feb 2011
Good post. When I'm not drinking biere, water is my choice of beverage. chuckle.gif

08-01-2012, 04:06 PM #6
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
AG, that's crazy!! They're crazy not you!! Water is my choice too and our boss provides filtered water, as much as we want, free.

Good find Octo hug.gif
08-01-2012, 04:11 PM #7
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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We're lucky to have some of the cleanest freshest water in the world here. No fluoride, just water and just enough calcium to make it taste great without liming up the fixtures. Quite a bit of iron in it as well, you don't taste it but you get the benefits.


08-01-2012, 04:11 PM #8
yankees skier
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No floride in our water here either. I still filter it though.

08-01-2012, 04:13 PM #9
Octo Mother Superior
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(08-01-2012, 03:54 PM)yankees Wrote:  When I'm not drinking biere, water is my choice of beverage. chuckle.gif

Same here in case you didn't know. chuckle.gif

Interesting how so much research is being done on this with basically the same results and a high sugar diet is still being pushed on us as a 'fun lifestyle'. damned.gif
08-01-2012, 04:13 PM #10
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
Good water is sooo important. I have an artesian well with a gravity fed spill off, never run out, doesn't freeze up in winter either, no matter how cold it gets. And it's very good.
08-01-2012, 04:24 PM #11
Octo Mother Superior
Posts:41,063 Threads:1,568 Joined:Feb 2011
A lot of natural springs up at the cabin as well! hi5.gif Fresh water would never be a problem.
08-01-2012, 04:38 PM #12
Shadow Incognito Anonymous
hi5.gif just take your brewing equipment when the shtf chuckle.gif

I see so many obese children come into the store. Mom is usually quite large too. One girl, a regular, is maybe 8 and nearly fully developed sad2.gif makes me want to bitch-slap her mother when she buys the child chocolate and slurpies and freezies and diet pop. Wtf is the matter with people? There's a couple other women, 5 or 6 months pregnant that buy vodka, we got permission from the boss to refuse to serve them hi5.gif
08-01-2012, 04:38 PM #13
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
Posts:14,957 Threads:446 Joined:Jun 2012
Well, it seems, some of nature's sweeteners aren't too bad.


Xylitol was discovered almost simultaneously by German and French chemists in the late 19th century,[7] and was first popularized in Europe as a safe sweetener for people with diabetes that would not affect insulin levels. Its dental significance was researched in Finland in the early 1970s, when scientists at Turku University showed it had significant dental benefits.[7] Those became known as the "Turku sugar studies". Today, using hardwood or maize sources, the largest manufacturer globally is the Danish company Danisco, with several other suppliers from China.[8] Xylitol is produced by hydrogenation of xylose, which converts the sugar (an aldehyde) into a primary alcohol.





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