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03-01-2014, 11:52 PM #1
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
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Can we take Canada? Nobody wants Mexico but maybe we can get a package deal. blink.gif
03-02-2014, 03:15 AM #2
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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lmao.gif Fortunately it doesn't work like that, but if it did, I'd say Cuba and Venezuela would make great 51st and 52nd states, respectively.
Besides, Canada always needs to be kept separate as an option.
I hear they have healthcare and doctors up that way.

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03-02-2014, 11:33 AM #3
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
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(03-02-2014, 03:15 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  lmao.gif Fortunately it doesn't work like that, but if it did, I'd say Cuba and Venezuela would make great 51st and 52nd states, respectively.
Besides, Canada always needs to be kept separate as an option.
I hear they have healthcare and doctors up that way.

Canada is like the US attic......cold, dark and a lil scary uhoh.gif
03-02-2014, 01:07 PM #4
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(03-01-2014, 11:52 PM)KILLUMINATI Wrote:  Can we take Canada? Nobody wants Mexico but maybe we can get a package deal. blink.gif

you guys already took part of Mexico, so it couldn't have been that bad..(joke) 13.gif
03-02-2014, 04:00 PM #5
mcmxc Member
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Russia aren't 'taking' Ukraine, they've been left with no choice by the west, it's either lose their oil pipelines and MASSIVELY historic and important black sea naval base (where people consider themselves Russian) to the new "US friendly government" ON THEIR OWN BORDER. The west didn't "own" Ukraine for the Russians to be able to take it in the first place! All of this is over a treaty signed in 1994, which the US have directly goaded Russia into breaking to once again portray themselves as the good guys and the Russians as evil.

It's like if you were a UK citizen and the Russians decided to destabilize the Scottish government, overthrow it and then set up their own regime in place which was more friendly to Russian interests. In this situation, the English would be thinking "hold on, the Russians have new territory and bases on OUR BORDER! This isn't right" so the English would send their army in to stabilize things.
03-03-2014, 12:20 AM #6
KILLUMINATI Made Ya Look!!
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(03-02-2014, 04:00 PM)mcmxc Wrote:  Russia aren't 'taking' Ukraine, they've been left with no choice by the west, it's either lose their oil pipelines and MASSIVELY historic and important black sea naval base (where people consider themselves Russian) to the new "US friendly government" ON THEIR OWN BORDER. The west didn't "own" Ukraine for the Russians to be able to take it in the first place! All of this is over a treaty signed in 1994, which the US have directly goaded Russia into breaking to once again portray themselves as the good guys and the Russians as evil.

It's like if you were a UK citizen and the Russians decided to destabilize the Scottish government, overthrow it and then set up their own regime in place which was more friendly to Russian interests. In this situation, the English would be thinking "hold on, the Russians have new territory and bases on OUR BORDER! This isn't right" so the English would send their army in to stabilize things.

They invaded a country and most likely are going to start another war. Its funny hearing and watching people like you blame the big bad west for forcing them to invade a country.

"The west" is a nice propagating blanket statement for the naive to use chuckle.gif

If Bush were president they wouldn't have invaded Ukraine cuz of what happened last time they tried to invade Georgia.
03-03-2014, 01:41 AM #7
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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If Russia takes Ukraine, Goldman Sachs is going to have a spare bank manager lmao.gif
03-03-2014, 04:45 PM #8
mcmxc Member
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(03-03-2014, 12:20 AM)KILLUMINATI Wrote:  
(03-02-2014, 04:00 PM)mcmxc Wrote:  Russia aren't 'taking' Ukraine, they've been left with no choice by the west, it's either lose their oil pipelines and MASSIVELY historic and important black sea naval base (where people consider themselves Russian) to the new "US friendly government" ON THEIR OWN BORDER. The west didn't "own" Ukraine for the Russians to be able to take it in the first place! All of this is over a treaty signed in 1994, which the US have directly goaded Russia into breaking to once again portray themselves as the good guys and the Russians as evil.

It's like if you were a UK citizen and the Russians decided to destabilize the Scottish government, overthrow it and then set up their own regime in place which was more friendly to Russian interests. In this situation, the English would be thinking "hold on, the Russians have new territory and bases on OUR BORDER! This isn't right" so the English would send their army in to stabilize things.

They invaded a country and most likely are going to start another war. Its funny hearing and watching people like you blame the big bad west for forcing them to invade a country.

"The west" is a nice propagating blanket statement for the naive to use chuckle.gif

If Bush were president they wouldn't have invaded Ukraine cuz of what happened last time they tried to invade Georgia.

If you've read any of my other posts on the matter you'll see I hate the both of them, in this instance, the US have forced Russia into protecting the Crimea. You're being told by the news that it's not alright for Russia to protect the interests of the people in Crimea, but is IS okay for NATO and the US to interfere to protect the interests of the people in the west of Ukraine?

That's even ignoring the fact that the Russians are essentially telling the people of the Crimea what they want, and the EU/US/UK are doing exactly the same on the other side. The people of the Ukraine are caught up in a manipulative power struggle/sensationalised media event. You can't honestly think the photo's of Ukrainians holding signs saying "please save us USA" or the photo's of people in Crimea burning American flags aren't staged propaganda pieces! The sheets of paper dictating the dress code of the "rebel faction" in Ukraine were IDENTICAL (besides the language) to the ones used in Syria to organise branches of Syrian rebels.

You can't call me naive when you start a sentence with "if Bush were president" as if it makes any difference whatsoever, anyone who thinks the two party system is anything other than a sham is as naive as they come.
03-03-2014, 04:54 PM #9
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iagree.gif

Propaganda will be plentiful on all sides as usual. It's also silly to think this is a situation caused by Putin exclusively.
03-03-2014, 05:02 PM #10
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If Russia takes Ukraine,if China takes Mongolia,if North Korea takes South Korea,if Egypt takes Sudan,if America takes Iraq,if India takes Pakistan,if England takes Ireland,if Sierra Leone takes Liberia,if Iran takes Afghanistan,if Kenya takes Ethiopia,if Vermont takes the Moon,like wtf? will it ever friggin end?!
03-03-2014, 05:03 PM #11
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The truth is always the first causality of war. coffeetime.gif

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03-03-2014, 05:08 PM #12
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(03-03-2014, 05:03 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  The truth is always the first causality of war. coffeetime.gif
Think about ^ that ^ its so true...

Then run and hide and take shelter inside the fortress of denial...

And i aint talking about the river in africa...
03-03-2014, 05:15 PM #13
mcmxc Member
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(03-03-2014, 05:08 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  
(03-03-2014, 05:03 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  The truth is always the first causality of war. coffeetime.gif
Think about ^ that ^ its so true...

Then run and hide and take shelter inside the fortress of denial...

And i aint talking about the river in africa...

I put it to you, that you ARE talking about a river in Africa.

Take that, rewind it back.



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