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'If you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits'
10-17-2013, 02:28 PM #16
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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It's just so wrong on so many levels. Legalizing prostitution is only gov collecting more taxes, if they didn't benefit, they wouldn't do it.
10-17-2013, 02:28 PM #17
White Ribbon call me
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10-17-2013, 02:32 PM #18
White Ribbon call me
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(10-17-2013, 02:28 PM)Shadow Wrote:  chuckle.gif Morning WR hug.gif

It's just so wrong on so many levels. Legalizing prostitution is only gov collecting more taxes, if they didn't benefit, they wouldn't do it.

hi sugar lips.. excited about your pot induced, coma trip? chuckle.gif

making someone do that job or cutting their benefits is a crime.. legalising prostitution is kind of like legalising marihuana and drugs.. they should be legal.. its a personal choice.. like abortion..

give us a kiss.. hug.gif
10-17-2013, 02:42 PM #19
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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I would like to see the gov't officials prostitute themselves for a month, then let's see how they feel about the profession.

Quote:Prostitution is an act of violence against women which is intrinsically traumatizing. In a study of 475 people in prostitution (including women, men, and the transgendered) from five countries (South Africa, Thailand, Turkey, USA, and Zambia):

62% reported having been raped in prostitution. 73% reported having experienced physical assault in prostitution. 72% were currently or formerly homeless. 92% stated that they wanted to escape prostitution immediately. (Melissa Farley, Isin Baral, Merab Kiremire, Ufuk Sezgin, "Prostitution in Five Countries: Violence and Posttraumatic Stress Disorder" (1998) Feminism & Psychology 8 (4): 405-426)

A Canadian Report on Prostitution and pr0n0graphy concluded that girls and women in prostitution have a mortality rate 40 times higher than the national average.

http://www.rapeis.org/activism/prostitut...facts.html

As for shoveling sh*t, I shoveled horse poop when I volunteered at a program where disabled people rode horses for therapy and I just had the mindset that it's a dirty job but someone had to do it...me. chuckle.gif
10-17-2013, 02:52 PM #20
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(10-17-2013, 02:32 PM)the white ribbon Wrote:  hi sugar lips.. excited about your pot induced, coma trip? chuckle.gif

making someone do that job or cutting their benefits is a crime.. legalising prostitution is kind of like legalising marihuana and drugs.. they should be legal.. its a personal choice.. like abortion..

give us a kiss.. hug.gif

time.gif panic.gif yay.gif chuckle.gif yes definitely counting the days beercheer.gif

I think there's a bit of a difference between mj and prostitution, co.s like Monsanto and Eli Lily have and interest in suppresing the legalization of mj but there's no multi-billion pimps on Capitol Hill. That the whouse will admit to.

Good post US, and what if the girl has a husband? How would he feel about that?
10-17-2013, 03:18 PM #21
White Ribbon call me
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(10-17-2013, 02:52 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(10-17-2013, 02:32 PM)the white ribbon Wrote:  hi sugar lips.. excited about your pot induced, coma trip? chuckle.gif

making someone do that job or cutting their benefits is a crime.. legalising prostitution is kind of like legalising marihuana and drugs.. they should be legal.. its a personal choice.. like abortion..

give us a kiss.. hug.gif

time.gif panic.gif yay.gif chuckle.gif yes definitely counting the days beercheer.gif

I think there's a bit of a difference between mj and prostitution, co.s like Monsanto and Eli Lily have and interest in suppresing the legalization of mj but there's no multi-billion pimps on Capitol Hill. That the whouse will admit to.

Good post US, and what if the girl has a husband? How would he feel about that?

yes, a big difference between michael jackson and prostitution.. chuckle.gif

you guys are going to have working girls all around you soon.. drool.gif
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10-17-2013, 05:02 PM #22
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What do you expect the edicts of the Frankfurt school are being followed to a T.
http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/11...chool.html
Once you get to the list of 11 'recommendations' the Frankfurt school suggested, ask yourself how many are now in force today:

1. The creation of racism offences.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6. The promotion of excessive drinking
7. Emptying of churches
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family ... the answer, of course, is all of them. on What Is Common Purpose?

The Frankfurt School: Conspiracy to corrupt
By Timothy Matthews
Issue: March 2009 Email This Article Printer Friendly Page
Western civilization at the present day is passing through a crisis which is essentially different from anything that has been previously experienced. Other societies in the past have changed their social institutions or their religious beliefs under the influence of external forces or the slow development of internal growth. But none, like our own, has ever consciously faced the prospect of a fundamental alteration of the beliefs and institutions on which the whole fabric of social life rests ... Civilization is being uprooted from its foundations in nature and tradition and is being reconstituted in a new organisation which is as artificial and mechanical as a modern factory.

Christopher Dawson. Enquiries into Religion and Culture, p. 259.

The ACW Review examined the corrosive work of the ‘Frankfurt School’ - a group of German-American scholars who developed highly provocative and original perspectives on contemporary society and culture, drawing on Hegel, Marx, Nietzsche, Freud, and Weber. Not that their idea of a ‘cultural revolution’ was particularly new. ‘Until now’, wrote Joseph, Comte de Maistre (1753-1821) who for fifteen years was a Freemason, ‘nations were killed by conquest, that is by invasion: But here an important question arises; can a nation not die on its own soil, without resettlement or invasion, by allowing the flies of decomposition to corrupt to the very core those original and constituent principles which make it what it is.'

What was the Frankfurt School? Well, in the days following the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, it was believed that workers’ revolution would sweep into Europe and, eventually, into the United States. But it did not do so. Towards the end of 1922 the Communist International (Comintern) began to consider what were the reasons. On Lenin’s initiative a meeting was organised at the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow.

The aim of the meeting was to clarify the concept of, and give concrete effect to, a Marxist cultural revolution. Amongst those present were Georg Lukacs (a Hungarian aristocrat, son of a banker, who had become a Communist during World War I ; a good Marxist theoretician he developed the idea of ‘Revolution and Eros’ - sexual instinct used as an instrument of destruction) and Willi Munzenberg (whose proposed solution was to ‘organise the intellectuals and use them to make Western civilisation stink. Only then, after they have corrupted all its values and made life impossible, can we impose the dictatorship of the proletariat’) ‘It was’, said Ralph de Toledano (1916-2007) the conservative author and co-founder of the ‘National Review’, a meeting ‘perhaps more harmful to Western civilization than the Bolshevik Revolution itself.'

Lenin died in 1924. By this time, however, Stalin was beginning to look on Munzenberg, Lukacs and like-thinkers as ‘revisionists’. In June 1940, Münzenberg fled to the south of France where, on Stalin’s orders, a NKVD assassination squad caught up with him and hanged him from a tree.

In the summer of 1924, after being attacked for his writings by the 5th Comintern Congress, Lukacs moved to Germany, where he chaired the first meeting of a group of Communist-oriented sociologists, a gathering that was to lead to the foundation of the Frankfurt School.

This ‘School’ (designed to put flesh on their revolutionary programme) was started at the University of Frankfurt in the Institut für Sozialforschung. To begin with school and institute were indistinguishable. In 1923 the Institute was officially established, and funded by Felix Weil (1898-1975). Weil was born in Argentina and at the age of nine was sent to attend school in Germany. He attended the universities in Tübingen and Frankfurt, where he graduated with a doctoral degree in political science. While at these universities he became increasingly interested in socialism and Marxism. According to the intellectual historian Martin Jay, the topic of his dissertation was ‘the practical problems of implementing socialism.'

Carl Grünberg, the Institute’s director from 1923-1929, was an avowed Marxist, although the Institute did not have any official party affiliations. But in 1930 Max Horkheimer assumed control and he believed that Marx’s theory should be the basis of the Institute’s research. When Hitler came to power, the Institut was closed and its members, by various routes, fled to the United States and migrated to major US universities—Columbia, Princeton, Brandeis, and California at Berkeley.

The School included among its members the 1960s guru of the New Left Herbert Marcuse (denounced by Pope Paul VI for his theory of liberation which ‘opens the way for licence cloaked as liberty’), Max Horkheimer, Theodor Adorno, the popular writer Erich Fromm, Leo Lowenthal, and Jurgen Habermas - possibly the School’s most influential representative.

Basically, the Frankfurt School believed that as long as an individual had the belief - or even the hope of belief - that his divine gift of reason could solve the problems facing society, then that society would never reach the state of hopelessness and alienation that they considered necessary to provoke socialist revolution. Their task, therefore, was as swiftly as possible to undermine the Judaeo-Christian legacy. To do this they called for the most negative destructive criticism possible of every sphere of life which would be designed to de-stabilize society and bring down what they saw as the ‘oppressive’ order. Their policies, they hoped, would spread like a virus—‘continuing the work of the Western Marxists by other means’ as one of their members noted.

To further the advance of their ‘quiet’ cultural revolution - but giving us no ideas about their plans for the future - the School recommended (among other things):

1. The creation of racism offences.
2. Continual change to create confusion
3. The teaching of sex and homosexuality to children
4. The undermining of schools’ and teachers’ authority
5. Huge immigration to destroy identity.
6. The promotion of excessive drinking
7. Emptying of churches
8. An unreliable legal system with bias against victims of crime
9. Dependency on the state or state benefits
10. Control and dumbing down of media
11. Encouraging the breakdown of the family

One of the main ideas of the Frankfurt School was to exploit Freud’s idea of ‘pansexualism’ - the search for pleasure, the exploitation of the differences between the sexes, the overthrowing of traditional relationships between men and women. To further their aims they would:

• attack the authority of the father, deny the specific roles of father and mother, and wrest away from families their rights as primary educators of their children.
• abolish differences in the education of boys and girls
• abolish all forms of male dominance - hence the presence of women in the armed forces
• declare women to be an ‘oppressed class’ and men as ‘oppressors’
Munzenberg summed up the Frankfurt School’s long-term operation thus: ‘We will make the West so corrupt that it stinks.'

The School believed there were two types of revolution: (a) political and (b) cultural. Cultural revolution demolishes from within. ‘Modern forms of subjection are marked by mildness’. They saw it as a long-term project and kept their sights clearly focused on the family, education, media, sex and popular culture.
10-17-2013, 05:20 PM #23
Octo Mother Superior
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I think prostitution should be legal for the same reason cannabis should be legal; to keep it out of the hands of organized crime. That's where the real problem is. 13.gif
10-17-2013, 06:07 PM #24
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(10-17-2013, 11:20 AM)the white ribbon Wrote:  
(10-17-2013, 10:55 AM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  
(10-17-2013, 10:26 AM)the white ribbon Wrote:  
(10-17-2013, 03:50 AM)Shadow Wrote:  A 25-year-old waitress who turned down a job providing "sexual services'' at a brothel in Berlin faces possible cuts to her unemployment benefit under laws introduced this year.

Prostitution was legalised in Germany just over two years ago and brothel owners – who must pay tax and employee health insurance – were granted access to official databases of jobseekers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...efits.html

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oops, to answer the OP. shadow my angel.. that is fekked up.. and so wrong, that you can lose your benefits cause you wont sell your body for Səx.. how can that be legal?? i would never do that kind of work. no way.. she should be able to sue.. what a disgrace..

Well, in the bad old days when "moral" crimes were illegal this problem wouldn't rear its ugly head.

However, if it is a legal profession and is the only available job... this objection ranks up there with refusing to take a waitress job because you have to be nice to people and it makes your feet sore.

There are distasteful aspects to any job. Women are forced by circumstances into prostitution. My belief is it usually isn't their first choice.

She has been on unemployment, apparently for a while. What the case probably comes down to is that the bureaucracy doesn't believe she is seriously trying to find a job.

The info we are missing is how long has she been out-of-work and how hard has she tried to find a job? How many other jobs has she turned down?


Postscript:
I find it curious this is a January 2005 article.

so you would suck C0ck and bend over because there was no other job for you?

you would have no problem with that?

I grew up on a farm and know how sex works. You apparently don't.

The male equivalent is STUD SERVICE.

You are repeating a dishonest argument that has already been made and it is getting tiresome.

As to your question I am quite good at stud service and wouldn't mind doing it as a job of last resort (I really hated shoveling tons of manure and this sounds much better to me).
10-17-2013, 06:15 PM #25
Shadow Mrs. Buckwheat
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(10-17-2013, 06:07 PM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  As to your question I am quite good at stud service and wouldn't mind doing it as a job of last resort (I really hated shoveling tons of manure and this sounds much better to me).

So you would service a stud?
10-17-2013, 06:29 PM #26
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(10-17-2013, 06:15 PM)Shadow Wrote:  
(10-17-2013, 06:07 PM)オタマジャクシ Wrote:  As to your question I am quite good at stud service and wouldn't mind doing it as a job of last resort (I really hated shoveling tons of manure and this sounds much better to me).

So you would service a stud?

Yet another non-farmer who doesn't know how sex works.

I'll look around for some show and tell pictures on the web. A little instruction might help some of you with your social lives.

I had to caution someone that BSDM is not a mainstream activity and you seem to have a related fixation.
10-17-2013, 06:33 PM #27
Octo Mother Superior
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10-17-2013, 06:40 PM #28
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İmage

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10-17-2013, 07:56 PM #29
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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10-17-2013, 08:57 PM #30
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(10-17-2013, 07:56 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  İmage

Show, then tell.

http://ilookbothways.com/2010/10/31/wome...community/

Well, this sad example isn't from Germany.

In an environment of legalized prostitution abuse of the employees would be treated much like beating up a waitress. This is one of the few benefits of legalized prostitution.

Nobody in my family has EVER beaten up a woman and we view it as a vile activity.



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