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06-30-2015, 08:19 AM #16
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(06-26-2015, 11:33 PM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  Unfortunately, TCM is about to be completely ƒükkêd over by big pharm.
We've know this for years, fought it, and lost. In the usa, Obama absolutely facilitated this.
Nestle is taking over Chinese herbs, and the herbs will not only be prescribed by idiot MDs who can barely keep medication straight,it will all be GMO.
YES, REALLY.
wether or not you will still be able to go to your local herbalist for a real prescription is anyone's guess.
WHO set the time table.
They want meds prescribing herbs to healthy people, with stuff like qi tonifiers and blood builders, by 2020.
Lots of luck. Herbs are NEVER meant to be given in definately. They will kill people with their ineptitude, and blame the herbs.
Watch

Eyes on the ball; good post.

And on the other hand, old, indigenous herbal knowledge has re-spread like
wildfire, at least over here, for the last decade. (Of course government/corp
propaganda about the dangers of collecting/growing your own is bloody
thick.)
06-30-2015, 08:22 AM #17
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Haha, got to say that "walking in the woods collecting herbs"
is not the same in, for instance, Denmark or Holland as in ol'
Suomi - Finland chuckle.gif

Big city slickers clue- and chanceless..?

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06-30-2015, 10:19 AM #18
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Yeah, problems in the health sector are increasing everywhere around the world,

reason ? : medics do it for money, they have no passion in their work anymore, well at least most of them.

And they have found ways and cure to prolong life, only to treat the elderly in homes and hospitals like burdens on societies.

But again, money is the prime culprit, it's worst than drugs, smoking, and any other bad habbit.

“Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others, past and present, and by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future.” ― David Mitchell
06-30-2015, 06:06 PM #19
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(06-30-2015, 01:11 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  
(06-27-2015, 12:15 AM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(06-27-2015, 12:03 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  
(06-26-2015, 11:52 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  that doesnt surprise me at all.

i figured they would want to control that as well.

well we just have to do the best with can, with what we know.
it is all thats left.

Doctors who do acupuncture are the worst. They take a three weekend class, and get the same certification as someone who we t to school for five years postgraduate, and took boards. Then they can charge 3x as much for a treatment, and they do it badly because they have no idea what they're doing it anywhere behind it. . It's disgusting

well ive never had it done by a regular dr.
but before i knew about tcm, i did go to a physiotherapist for my back.
and she did it a bit. only about three or four needles.

didnt do diddly lol.. but yeah they dont really have any idea.

maybe they learn one or two points..
but now that ive had it done properly by a tcm dr, i know what the difference is.

Are you in the usa? Not all of us do just TCM. TCM is what you need to know to pass your boards. It was actually what became the norm after Mao Tse Tung forced the standardization of Chinese medicine. It's based in some traditional theory, but Acu is an art form, wherein most family practices, in China, had their own protocols. They didn't all even have points in the same places.

Most Dr's fled China when Tung took power. This is how Acu flourished in other countries. I am partial to using Japanese acupuncture myself

no i am Canadian..

Just Plain Nuts.
07-01-2015, 01:41 AM #20
Screaming Yellow Zonkers Member
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(06-30-2015, 06:06 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(06-30-2015, 01:11 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  
(06-27-2015, 12:15 AM)Coolchick Wrote:  
(06-27-2015, 12:03 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  
(06-26-2015, 11:52 PM)Coolchick Wrote:  that doesnt surprise me at all.

i figured they would want to control that as well.

well we just have to do the best with can, with what we know.
it is all thats left.

Doctors who do acupuncture are the worst. They take a three weekend class, and get the same certification as someone who we t to school for five years postgraduate, and took boards. Then they can charge 3x as much for a treatment, and they do it badly because they have no idea what they're doing it anywhere behind it. . It's disgusting

well ive never had it done by a regular dr.
but before i knew about tcm, i did go to a physiotherapist for my back.
and she did it a bit. only about three or four needles.

didnt do diddly lol.. but yeah they dont really have any idea.

maybe they learn one or two points..
but now that ive had it done properly by a tcm dr, i know what the difference is.

Are you in the usa? Not all of us do just TCM. TCM is what you need to know to pass your boards. It was actually what became the norm after Mao Tse Tung forced the standardization of Chinese medicine. It's based in some traditional theory, but Acu is an art form, wherein most family practices, in China, had their own protocols. They didn't all even have points in the same places.

Most Dr's fled China when Tung took power. This is how Acu flourished in other countries. I am partial to using Japanese acupuncture myself

no i am Canadian..

I'm not sure how Acu and herbs taught in Canada. In the old days, many came from Europe to learn Acu here, as we had the only accredited Schools initially. Pacific college and Tri state college were two of tthe first. Pacific on the west coast, tristate on the east. I don't know if Kiiko Matsumoto ever teaches in Canada.... She may. She's my Japanese Acu mentor. I learned vietnamese style from Caroline Bengston.
I did internships in Japan and Beijing.

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07-01-2015, 01:44 AM #21
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Oh wow. Ask your acupuncturist where they went to school. I'd bet many Canadians in come to the USA for school, as you only have 4 Acu colleges, for the entire country.

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07-01-2015, 03:58 AM #22
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I'm surprised nobody else has posted this classic comedy movie...

07-01-2015, 03:32 PM #23
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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CC ~ I saw the title of this thread and instantly thought of that story you shared about the bus driver with a load of day trippers from the local looney bin.

I can't recall (puff-puff-pass) the whole story ~ could you please repost it here?

Thanks, Sugar. :hugs:

İmage
07-01-2015, 04:09 PM #24
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Haha, I had a job at the local looney bin workshop for some 26 months
once. (As a staff member. 13.gif )

Our bus driver pretty much saved my life once, when someone had
forgotten to give Big Soli her morning downer...yet again.

- Hey, what's up with Soli today?
- I don't know. Maybe she's coming down with a bout of Down's this
otherwise lovely morning.


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07-05-2015, 12:50 PM #25
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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İmage

Bumpin' for CoolChick's story...

(pretty please??)

İmage
07-05-2015, 04:50 PM #26
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(07-01-2015, 01:44 AM)Screaming Yellow Zonkers Wrote:  Oh wow. Ask your acupuncturist where they went to school. I'd bet many Canadians in come to the USA for school, as you only have 4 Acu colleges, for the entire country.

i believe she went to a university in Beijing.. i think it is a relatively famous place for tcm...
she is from northern china.. near russia.

Just Plain Nuts.
07-05-2015, 05:23 PM #27
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(07-01-2015, 03:32 PM)DaJavoo Wrote:  CC ~ I saw the title of this thread and instantly thought of that story you shared about the bus driver with a load of day trippers from the local looney bin.

I can't recall (puff-puff-pass) the whole story ~ could you please repost it here?

Thanks, Sugar. :hugs:

İmage

lol it is on my other computer.. it took me a long time to find it again on the net.

ok i dont have a link for it.. because originally i saw it in a magazine macclean's, i think... in 1999 or something like that.
and now it is just on some joke page or something.
however i believe it is a true story from what i recall in the magazine:

'After stopping for drinks at an illegal bar, a Zimbabwean bus driver found that the 20 mental patients he was supposed to be transporting from Harare to Bulawayo had escaped. Not wanting to admit his incompetence, the driver went to a nearby bus stop and offered everyone waiting there a free ride. He then delivered the passengers to the mental hospital, telling the staff that the patients were very excitable and prone to bizarre fantasies. The deception wasn't discovered for 3 days.'

lol.. one of my faves for sure..

Just Plain Nuts.
07-05-2015, 05:41 PM #28
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07-05-2015, 05:44 PM #29
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07-06-2015, 03:01 AM #30
DaJavoo If looks could kilt
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I laffed a gut loose again...thanks for sharin', CC ~ Luv ya' for it!

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