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Is Our Universe a Fake?
08-05-2015, 01:37 PM #1
Octo Mother Superior
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Quote: If people are in a whole-world simulation, how could they know it? Brin suggests a "back door" in the simulation program that would enable the alleged programmers to control people (much like countries accuse each other of installing "back doors" in code to conduct espionage).

"If we are living in a simulation, then everything is software, including every atom in our bodies," Brin said, "and there may be 'back doors' that the programmers left ajar."

I asked Marvin Minsky, a legendary founder of artificial intelligence, to distinguish among three kinds of simulations: (i) brains in vats, (ii) universal simulation as pure software and (iii) universal simulation as real physical stuff.

"It would be very hard to distinguish among those," Minsky said, "unless the programmer has made some slips — if you notice that some laws of physics aren't quite right, if you find rounding-off errors, you might sense some of the grain of the computer showing through."

If that were the case, he says, it would mean that the universe is easier to understand than scientists had imagined, and that they might even find ways to change it.

http://www.space.com/30124-is-our-universe-a-fake.html











Seems like this theory has been thrown around here at KB several times. hmm.gif
08-05-2015, 01:39 PM #2
Accidental Stoner Member
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In a way it is, yes.

Exists only in the user interface - nowhere else.
08-05-2015, 02:31 PM #3
bohica Member
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So what is it ? We really don't have to poop, or we don't have to wipe ?

I'm in my seventh decade on Earth. I know things.
08-05-2015, 03:05 PM #4
Octo Mother Superior
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If the simulation runs a poop add-on I guess we'd have to poop and wipe 13.gif
08-05-2015, 03:40 PM #5
bohica Member
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Has this become a poo thread ?

I'm in my seventh decade on Earth. I know things.
08-05-2015, 03:58 PM #6
Octo Mother Superior
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A poo thread simulation possibly hmm.gif
08-05-2015, 04:10 PM #7
Kreeper Griobhtha
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(08-05-2015, 02:31 PM)bohica Wrote:  So what is it ? We really don't have to poop, or we don't have to wipe ?

You don't have to do either!

Good luck with that!

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08-05-2015, 10:48 PM #8
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so craters on earth aren't real?
(Made from objects from space)

nor meteors?

nor falling stars?

the moon craters are fake?
that we all can see on it

etc..

such a stupid time we live in while everyone thinks they know everything via google or crap theories
08-05-2015, 10:51 PM #9
JayRodney ⓐⓛⓘⓔⓝ
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(08-05-2015, 10:48 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  such a stupid time we live in while everyone thinks they know everything via google or crap theories

iagree.gif crap theories abound.

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08-05-2015, 11:18 PM #10
Octo Mother Superior
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Well this universe simulation theory is hardly a crap theory The eye is a quite blunt tool to use to determine the true nature of things. Seeing is not automatically believing is my thought on the matter.
08-06-2015, 01:04 AM #11
Ruby Wolf Member
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Short Answer.........Yes.........Long Answer.........

Quote: "A planet of play things we dance on the strings of powers we cannot perceive" - Rush

Quote: "There is far more to this world than taught in our schools, shown in the media, or proclaimed by the church and state. Most of mankind lives in a hypnotic trance, taking to be reality what is instead a twisted simulacrum of reality, a collective dream in which values are inverted, lies are taken as truth and tyranny is accepted as security. They enjoy their ignorance and cling tightly to the misery that gives them identity" - Thomas Cox

Quote: “So I shall suppose that some malicious, powerful, cunning demon has done all he can to deceive me rather than this being done by god, who is supremely good and the source of truth. I shall think that the sky, the air, the earth, colours, shapes, sounds and all external things are merely dreams that the demon has contrived as traps for my judgment.” - Rene Descartes, Meditations, 1641.

İmage

Obey the game as long as you think you are because our eyes dont see anything they are only light receptors not capable of sight all vision is taking place within our minds and so we are unable to perceive of anything the way it really exists and so we dont know what reality really is...

Simulated Reality > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality

Are You Living In A Computer Simulation? > http://www.simulation-argument.com/

Think about how fast and far our video games have advanced and progressed in only the past twenty or thirty years and we really love to be entertained and we constantly strive to recreate reality by creating virtual worlds and life like simulations within our video games as they continuously evolve....

There may exist civilizations of superior aliens within another dimension existing within the real world somewhere beyond our visible spectrum creating and employing technology thats thousands perhaps millions of years far beyond our own who are doing the same things only they have created a holographic video game thats so fantastically advanced its almost impossible for us to distinguish from what we think is reality...

İmage

They might have created a virtually projected simulation a fabricated existence that we call life and death on earth where three dimensional holographic characters exist programmed and remotely maneuvered to think and believe they are real and that everything around them is real reality...

The malevolent aliens program and download certain events and situations into their virtual simulations that the obliviously robotic characters upload and believe to be random occurrences never knowing they're actually being controlled and orchestrated and dominated and manipulated by superior evil entities...

They program and download earthquakes and blizzards and volcanic eruptions and hurricanes and floods and tsunamis then play around manipulating their interactive controls while watching how their characters react...

The malevolent aliens program their simulated characters to do things they want to think and need to believe are their own free wills their own thoughts and their own actions that eventually play themselves out resulting in constant continuous change as well as minor and major implications...

They program and download certain incidents that create massive disruptions within their digitized societies causing armies to invade here and wars to break out there as the aliens maneuver their characters into battle...

The malevolent aliens download new digital environments inhabited by different digitized species like insects and birds and fish and cats and tigers and dogs and spiders and snakes to make their simulations appear more real to their obliviously unaware bipedal creations we call human beings...

They occasionally get bored and become complacent playing one simulation over and over as well as becoming frustrated and enraged whenever we evolve too close to the truth and so they program comets and asteroids to impact and gamma ray bursts to strike and giant solar flares to engulf and ice ages to advance and then gaze upon and interacting with the evolutionary consequences that inevitably arise...

New characters are digitally born all the time and those digitalized holographic characters are eliminated all the time when they die they're deleted from this virtual reality world and hurled into the abyss of nothingness and sometimes digitally reborn synthetically reincarnated within another holographic body...

İmage

Perhaps the only reason we are forced to fall asleep is so our brains can be down loaded with new virtual reality data that we awaken and obliviously upload to think and believe is our new days reality that doesnt even really exist and our dreams and nightmares may actually be fragments of that down loading process...

Malevolent aliens may have created telepathically driven machines we call flying saucers with fantastic abilities enabling themselves with the profound ability to enter into and interact with their holographic realities...

Sometimes clairvoyantly gifted people are able to perceive and notice strange and subtle glitches within this digitalized holographic matrix as being something we call dejavu...



While driving in my car i look around at all the other people driving in their cars on the expressway and i think about how it looks and feels way too much like everyone is trapped within some kind of bizarre video game with no way out with no way to get away with nowhere else to go with no choice but to keep moving forward half asleep like robots forced to keep playing the game and almost no one wants to think about it and almost no one wants to talk about it with each other...

Because that ultimate truth might be too horrible for most people to face...

And so living and dying in greed driven denial of this all too real possibility is easier for us to accept...

Exactly how the alien gods might be programming us to think and react...

08-06-2015, 01:42 AM #12
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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If we are in a simulation/matrix then it still is a reality, it exists.
08-06-2015, 02:34 AM #13
Ruby Wolf Member
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(08-06-2015, 01:42 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  If we are in a simulation/matrix then it still is a reality, it exists.
As long as we keep thinking this reality actually exists its magnificent deception as usual...
08-06-2015, 02:39 AM #14
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(08-06-2015, 02:34 AM)WykdWych Wrote:  
(08-06-2015, 01:42 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  If we are in a simulation/matrix then it still is a reality, it exists.
As long as we keep thinking this reality actually exists its magnificent deception as usual...

Well, we are continuing to think this is reality, so as I think, therefore it is.
08-06-2015, 03:00 AM #15
Ruby Wolf Member
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(08-06-2015, 02:39 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(08-06-2015, 02:34 AM)WykdWych Wrote:  
(08-06-2015, 01:42 AM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  If we are in a simulation/matrix then it still is a reality, it exists.
As long as we keep thinking this reality actually exists its magnificent deception as usual...

Well, we are continuing to think this is reality, so as I think, therefore it is.
Well the faith shattering truth is realizing how long ago evil aliens from another dimension discovered and hijacked planet earth and then they genetically altered and manipulated our prehistoric brains into perceiving their simulated reality exactly the way they want us to...



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