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Is WWIII Imminent? American Troops Arrive in Poland!
04-23-2014, 05:54 PM #31
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(04-23-2014, 05:24 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(04-23-2014, 04:40 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-23-2014, 03:54 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  History being taken into account, I believe a hands off policy by the US and NATO would be wise, but the bully club gathering is a little unnerving.

It's more like Putin and his Parliament are the bullies, but it seems the sanctions are causing economic problems for Russians, so let's see just how far NATO can take this with the pro-Russians hold up in those gov't buildings.

What I meant was Crimea was part of Russia for a very long time. Being mostly Russian, in terms of language and history, they held a referendum and decided to rejoin.
They did so of their own free will.
The pro-Russians occupying gov't buildings in the Ukraine is a separate issue, at least the way I see it.
I believe the Russians should pressure them to leave, but as far as I know, it's not Russian troops.
I don't know that anyone has a real good handle on this, and before shots are fired and bombs dropped, I hope both sides will strive for a diplomatic solution.
The US spent years in two wars they should have never been involved in, I'm tired of watching the same mistakes over and over.

Quote:In 1954, the Soviet Crimean Oblast was transferred from Russia to Ukraine. It became the Autonomous Republic of Crimea within newly independent Ukraine in 1991, with Sevastopol having its own administration within Ukraine but outside of the Autonomous Republic.

Sovereignty and control of the peninsula became the subject of the ongoing 2014 Crimean crisis, a territorial dispute between Russia and Ukraine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

Nobody really has a good handle on this because of confusing past history and from the above quote it looks like Crimea was within Ukraine's administration up until recently when Putin and his Parliament decided that they wanted the land for the benefit of Russia. The way Putin and his Parliament handled this is very underhanded and self-serving IMO.

As for pro-Russians in the remaining Ukraine, I heard on the radio news that they are a 6% of the entire population there and most believe that they are indeed Russian troops hold up in those buildings.

If the members of NATO feel it necessary to show strength and solidarity, then I am sure there are very good reasons. To end this, I think NATO should extinquish the pro-Russian protest or at least prove they are not Russian troops, by giving them amnesty and shipping their asses to Putin.
04-23-2014, 05:55 PM #32
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(04-23-2014, 05:23 PM)Octo Wrote:  
(04-23-2014, 04:40 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-23-2014, 03:54 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  History being taken into account, I believe a hands off policy by the US and NATO would be wise, but the bully club gathering is a little unnerving.

It's more like Putin and his Parliament are the bullies, but it seems the sanctions are causing economic problems for Russians, so let's see just how far NATO can take this with the pro-Russians hold up in those gov't buildings.

I'd rather not. They should keep their star spangled clown pants on their own side of the Atlantic.
During its formation and ever since its inception from 1775 through 2014 the United States military has never not been at war with someone somewhere > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of...operations
04-23-2014, 05:57 PM #33
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(04-23-2014, 05:50 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  war date 2016 November
why? add up the numbers
2016=9 November month number= 11
in total 911
Ballistic missile launch should start on the first Tuesday of November


hmm.gif Very interesting from a numerology standpoint AK. Thanks for that food for thought.

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04-23-2014, 06:01 PM #34
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(04-23-2014, 05:13 PM)Beyond Smolensk Wrote:  Germany - 56 American Military Facilities

Italy - 113 American Military Facilities

Japan - 84 American Military Facilities

Theres many more > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Uni...tary_bases

Yes, there is more...

Quote:Russia says it is negotiating with Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Algeria, Cyprus, the Seychelles, Vietnam and Singapore about access to facilities that can be used by its navy and strategic bombers

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/patr...nd-bombers
04-23-2014, 06:04 PM #35
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(04-23-2014, 05:54 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

Nobody really has a good handle on this because of confusing past history and from the above quote it looks like Crimea was within Ukraine's administration up until recently when Putin and his Parliament decided that they wanted the land for the benefit of Russia. The way Putin and his Parliament handled this is very underhanded and self-serving IMO.

As for pro-Russians in the remaining Ukraine, I heard on the radio news that they are a 6% of the entire population there and most believe that they are indeed Russian troops hold up in those buildings.

If the members of NATO feel it necessary to show strength and solidarity, then I am sure there are very good reasons. To end this, I think NATO should extinquish the pro-Russian protest or at least prove they are not Russian troops, by giving them amnesty and shipping their asses to Putin.

Ukraine is not a NATO member so there's absolutely no reason for them to get involved. gaah.gif
04-23-2014, 06:09 PM #36
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04-23-2014, 06:10 PM #37
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(04-23-2014, 05:57 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  hmm.gif Very interesting from a numerology standpoint AK. Thanks for that food for thought.
family member is military gave me the date tptb do like their numbers .. could write more but think I wrote enough already...

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04-23-2014, 06:17 PM #38
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hmm.gif Thanks for sharing, AK.
04-23-2014, 06:18 PM #39
UniqueStranger Art in my heart
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(04-23-2014, 06:04 PM)Octo Wrote:  
(04-23-2014, 05:54 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

Nobody really has a good handle on this because of confusing past history and from the above quote it looks like Crimea was within Ukraine's administration up until recently when Putin and his Parliament decided that they wanted the land for the benefit of Russia. The way Putin and his Parliament handled this is very underhanded and self-serving IMO.

As for pro-Russians in the remaining Ukraine, I heard on the radio news that they are a 6% of the entire population there and most believe that they are indeed Russian troops hold up in those buildings.

If the members of NATO feel it necessary to show strength and solidarity, then I am sure there are very good reasons. To end this, I think NATO should extinquish the pro-Russian protest or at least prove they are not Russian troops, by giving them amnesty and shipping their asses to Putin.

Ukraine is not a NATO member so there's absolutely no reason for them to get involved. gaah.gif

The old Ukraine was not a NATO member perhaps for reasons of Russian control through the old leader, but it seems the new Ukrainian Minister and people are trying to run things themselves, now.

Quote:The minister said he had held talks with officials from the United States and the European Union and then asked NATO for help after what Ukraine's prime minister described as Russian aggression.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/0...RQ20140301
04-23-2014, 06:30 PM #40
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(04-23-2014, 05:50 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  war date 2016 November
why? add up the numbers
2016=9 November month number= 11
in total 911
Ballistic missile launch should start on the first Tuesday of November
Disguised as an asteroid strike that just happens to annihilate a city and kill millions of people?!

As Werner Von Braun predicted shortly before his death >

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics..._inte.html

Intentional nuclear missile strike against a city...

Disguised as a random asteroid impact...

That could start World War Three...
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04-23-2014, 06:33 PM #41
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(04-23-2014, 06:17 PM)Octo Wrote:  hmm.gif Thanks for sharing, AK.
yvw remember 2 inches of dirt can save you and your family if you happen to be in a rad zone if in your home put 2 inches of dirt on your living room/ main floor and roof then if need be spend as much time as possible in your basement/ away from windows dirt will shield your from fallout if in an apartment building spend as much time as you can in the hall ways/ if your building is still standing if in the country side dig dig dig a den on any hill and again spend as much time as needed inside this dwelling sand/ dirt/ earth is your way of survival, if you truly want to survive
: cheers:
04-23-2014, 06:51 PM #42
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I honestly don't know if I want to survive such horror, but good advice nevertheless. Thank you. cheers.gif
04-23-2014, 06:54 PM #43
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(04-23-2014, 11:12 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  
Quote:US troops arrive in Poland for exercises across Eastern Europe amid Ukraine crisis

U.S. Army paratroopers are arriving in Poland to begin a series of military exercises in four countries across Eastern Europe to bolster allies in the wake of Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula last month.

Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby said Tuesday that the exercises will last about a month, and initially involve about 600 troops.

An Army company of about 150 soldiers from the 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team based in Vicenza, Italy, will start the exercises Wednesday in Poland. Additional Army companies will head to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and are expected to arrive by Monday for similar land-based exercises in those countries.

Under the current plan, U.S. troops would rotate in and out of the four countries for additional exercises on a recurring basis.

"We're looking at trying to keep this rotational presence persistent throughout the rest of this year," Kirby told reporters, adding that over time the exercises could expand to other countries.

The exercises are part of an effort announced last week by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel aimed at reassuring NATO allies of America's commitment to the region's defense.
Read more: foxnews.com

Interpret this any way you may, but I don't believe for one second anything positive will come from this.
The story is just breaking, we'll keep an eye on the very major development.
In another related story: Pentagon deploying troops to thwart Russia

There have been Russian troops in America since like 2012 coffeetime.gif
04-23-2014, 07:03 PM #44
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(04-23-2014, 06:54 PM)KILLUMINATI Wrote:  
(04-23-2014, 11:12 AM)JayRodney Wrote:  
Quote:US troops arrive in Poland for exercises across Eastern Europe amid Ukraine crisis

U.S. Army paratroopers are arriving in Poland to begin a series of military exercises in four countries across Eastern Europe to bolster allies in the wake of Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean Peninsula last month.

Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby said Tuesday that the exercises will last about a month, and initially involve about 600 troops.

An Army company of about 150 soldiers from the 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team based in Vicenza, Italy, will start the exercises Wednesday in Poland. Additional Army companies will head to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and are expected to arrive by Monday for similar land-based exercises in those countries.

Under the current plan, U.S. troops would rotate in and out of the four countries for additional exercises on a recurring basis.

"We're looking at trying to keep this rotational presence persistent throughout the rest of this year," Kirby told reporters, adding that over time the exercises could expand to other countries.

The exercises are part of an effort announced last week by Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel aimed at reassuring NATO allies of America's commitment to the region's defense.
Read more: foxnews.com

Interpret this any way you may, but I don't believe for one second anything positive will come from this.
The story is just breaking, we'll keep an eye on the very major development.
In another related story: Pentagon deploying troops to thwart Russia

There have been Russian troops in America since like 2012 coffeetime.gif
I thought it was since 1966?



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04-23-2014, 07:12 PM #45
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(04-23-2014, 06:51 PM)Octo Wrote:  I honestly don't know if I want to survive such horror, but good advice nevertheless. Thank you. cheers.gif
yvw personally I wouldn't want to survive. The aftermath would be far worse than the first strikes inmho not to mention but within the first month or so most if not all cities remaining would be filled with other then totting corpses, cannibals or roving groups /gangs of cannibals, child molesters and rape gangs preying on survivors they / cities would truly be filled with walking dead as every survivor would most likely die within the first few months from lack of nutrition / needed medications or at the hands of others so in general stay out and away from cities and stay / be locked and loaded .. even a nail gun casing can act as a propellent for a object the size of a 22 caliber bullet if needed and can be used in a 22 cal rifle or even a pipe gun as well
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