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Is WWIII Imminent? American Troops Arrive in Poland!
04-23-2014, 07:18 PM #46
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04-23-2014, 07:28 PM #47
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not a pleasant life after ww3 but is an interesting look at what / how life might be

04-23-2014, 07:31 PM #48
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(04-23-2014, 05:24 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  
(04-23-2014, 04:40 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-23-2014, 03:54 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  History being taken into account, I believe a hands off policy by the US and NATO would be wise, but the bully club gathering is a little unnerving.

It's more like Putin and his Parliament are the bullies, but it seems the sanctions are causing economic problems for Russians, so let's see just how far NATO can take this with the pro-Russians hold up in those gov't buildings.

What I meant was Crimea was part of Russia for a very long time. Being mostly Russian, in terms of language and history, they held a referendum and decided to rejoin.
They did so of their own free will.
The pro-Russians occupying gov't buildings in the Ukraine is a separate issue, at least the way I see it.
I believe the Russians should pressure them to leave, but as far as I know, it's not Russian troops.
I don't know that anyone has a real good handle on this, and before shots are fired and bombs dropped, I hope both sides will strive for a diplomatic solution.
The US spent years in two wars they should have never been involved in, I'm tired of watching the same mistakes over and over.
Russian aristocrats (Royal Bloodline Elites) have been vacationing in the Crimea for at least hundreds of years...

At the time of his death (murder) Emperor Nicholas II had a net worth of $900,000,000 which is the inflation adjusted equivalent to $13,700,000,000 in 2012 US dollars...

Emperor Nicholas II (first cousin of King George V of the United Kingdom) and Empress Alexandra Feodorovna (grand daughter of Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom) on Mount Ai Petri (Saint Peter) in the Crimea during the Autumn of 1909 >

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Yalta (Crimea) conference (of the Royal Bloodline Elites) in 1945 at the Livadia Palace during World War Two >

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04-23-2014, 08:20 PM #49
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(04-23-2014, 06:18 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  
(04-23-2014, 06:04 PM)Octo Wrote:  
(04-23-2014, 05:54 PM)UniqueStranger Wrote:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

Nobody really has a good handle on this because of confusing past history and from the above quote it looks like Crimea was within Ukraine's administration up until recently when Putin and his Parliament decided that they wanted the land for the benefit of Russia. The way Putin and his Parliament handled this is very underhanded and self-serving IMO.

As for pro-Russians in the remaining Ukraine, I heard on the radio news that they are a 6% of the entire population there and most believe that they are indeed Russian troops hold up in those buildings.

If the members of NATO feel it necessary to show strength and solidarity, then I am sure there are very good reasons. To end this, I think NATO should extinquish the pro-Russian protest or at least prove they are not Russian troops, by giving them amnesty and shipping their asses to Putin.

Ukraine is not a NATO member so there's absolutely no reason for them to get involved. gaah.gif

The old Ukraine was not a NATO member perhaps for reasons of Russian control through the old leader, but it seems the new Ukrainian Minister and people are trying to run things themselves, now.

Quote:The minister said he had held talks with officials from the United States and the European Union and then asked NATO for help after what Ukraine's prime minister described as Russian aggression.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/0...RQ20140301

According to that Reuters article the foreign minister is Sergei Deshchiritsya and the only reference to him is this specific piece of news. His name is really Andrii Deshchytsia 13.gif

Ministers here too are pushing for a NATO membership, completely against the will of the people.

NATO should not get involved because it will do nothing to calm down the situation and the Ukrainians will be caught in the middle of these shenanigans.
04-23-2014, 08:20 PM #50
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yup.gif It's not like WWII when Hitler developed a hankering for Polish food and moved in. That was the point I was trying to make.

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04-23-2014, 08:44 PM #51
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(04-23-2014, 08:20 PM)JayRodney Wrote:  yup.gif It's not like WWII when Hitler developed a hankering for Polish food and moved in. That was the point I was trying to make.
During World War Two the total Russian losses within the post war 1946-91 boundaries were around 26.6 million people (13.5% of the total population of 196.7 million) were killed...

During World War Two the total Polish losses within the post war 1946 boundaries were around 4.4 million people (19.0% of the total population of 23.2 million) were killed...
04-23-2014, 09:45 PM #52
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http://news.sky.com/story/1247985/raf-je...ay-from-uk raf jet chases away Russian planes off coast of Scotland

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04-23-2014, 10:21 PM #53
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Well, it seems they didn't actually violate anybody's airspace so it was most likely just a trolling mission chuckle.gif
04-23-2014, 11:04 PM #54
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But of course DailyMail had to dramatize it 15.gif

RAF Typhoon scrambled after two Russian planes stray into UK airspace today

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...today.html

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04-24-2014, 12:04 AM #55
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(04-23-2014, 11:04 PM)Octo Wrote:  But of course DailyMail had to dramatize it 15.gif

RAF Typhoon scrambled after two Russian planes stray into UK airspace today

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...today.html

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I read somewhere else that they stayed in international space ..so doesn't surprise me this got dramatized

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04-24-2014, 12:09 AM #56
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Heres RTs version of this story:

Quote:The UK on Wednesday scrambled several Typhoon fighter jets to see off two “unidentified aircraft flying near the north of Scotland,” a UK Defense Ministry spokeswoman told Reuters. The agency said Britain’s Royal Air Force later identified the aircraft as Russian Tupolev Tu-95 strategic bombers, commonly known by their NATO reporting name “Bear.” The planes “were flying in international airspace at all times, they didn’t go into UK sovereign airspace,” the spokeswoman said, adding that there had been eight similar incidents in 2013. Local media reports claimed that two Russian bombers turned away and flew towards Scandinavia after being contacted by the British jets.

http://rt.com/news/line/2014-04-23/#59984


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04-24-2014, 12:11 AM #57
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Even the article says it didn't enter UK airspace, opposite to what the headline states. lmao.gif15.gif
04-24-2014, 12:13 AM #58
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lmao.gif facepalm_panda.gif

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04-24-2014, 12:29 AM #59
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MSM is still really not used to having millions of fact checkers are they? Or perhaps they are just trying to reach out the terminally stupid dunno.gif

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04-24-2014, 01:16 AM #60
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Sadly many fall victim to this Propaganda.

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