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Below Average Genius Show this Post
06-22-2019, 10:59 PM #181
Below Average Genius Incognito Anonymous
 
(1 hour ago)grav Wrote:  I'm not really here to argue.

Then who wrote this?:

I contend that the world is a stationary plane.
I also accuse the Body Scientific of total deception....
I am open to debate and hope a civil discussion will follow.


It looks like you're only not willing to debate when you can't answer a simple question.
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
06-23-2019, 03:10 AM #182
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(4 hours ago)Below Average Genius Wrote:  
(6 hours ago)grav Wrote:  I'm not really here to argue. I just want a few people to see enough info become confused enough to encourage them to  research laws of physics on their own...

But the sun looks huge at sunrise and sunset compared to when it is overhead.

Sunrise key west Florida

İmage

Noon key west Florida  

İmage


Sunset key west Florida

İmage

Some distortion due to the atmosphere. But there's no real difference in size .
06-23-2019, 03:13 AM #183
FD. Incognito Anonymous
 
(7 hours ago)RiskyRob Wrote:  
(7 hours ago)FD. Wrote:  This is how the sun moves in the real world .

İmage


 Why don’t they match ?


Go

I wonder if the skyloons deflate?

Not sure about the sky part. But she definitely got Loon right .

Freudian slip ?
06-23-2019, 04:19 AM #184
RiskyRob Master Blaster
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(1 hour ago)FD. Wrote:  
(8 hours ago)RiskyRob Wrote:  
(9 hours ago)FD. Wrote:  This is how the sun moves in the real world .

İmage


 Why don’t they match ?


Go

I wonder if the skyloons deflate?

Not sure about the sky part. But she definitely got Loon right .

Freudian slip ?


This thread is creating a buzz on other boards, and new people are now coming to Kritterbox.
06-23-2019, 04:45 AM #185
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(26 minutes ago)RiskyRob Wrote:  
(1 hour ago)FD. Wrote:  
(8 hours ago)RiskyRob Wrote:  
(9 hours ago)FD. Wrote:  This is how the sun moves in the real world .

İmage


 Why don’t they match ?


Go

I wonder if the skyloons deflate?

Not sure about the sky part. But she definitely got Loon right .

Freudian slip ?


This thread is creating a buzz on other boards, and new people are now coming to Kritterbox.

Grav was insulated and protected on another forum .

She was good for clicks but even they got fed up with her nonsense.

Now she’s fending off the wolves that are tracking her down .

Good Times
06-23-2019, 05:10 AM #186
grav Member
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(8 hours ago)Octo Wrote:  
(11 hours ago)grav Wrote:  
(Yesterday, 04:30 AM)FD. Wrote:  
(Yesterday, 12:59 AM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  She claims to want a respectful flat Earth "debate" but as soon as she is confronted with information that contradicts her theory that she can't explain she either calls you a shill (ad hom) or outright ignores you and moves on to another point.  

That is the opposite of debate.  She doesn't debate because she will lose.  She just spouts nonsense.  She does the same sheet at every forum she goes to.  She is the main reason why most forums won't allow this FE BS.

I’ve been asking her to explain this for two years.

She can’t.

That’s why I know she’s not serious it’s just a troll.

Right now I’m just playing slow and steady wins the race.

I’m going to wear her out sooner or later .


İmage


93 million miles away? Yet it changes size during the day?

Moving .5 million mph? with earth rotating 1000 mph and revolving 66 600 mph?

Please provide proofs. Other than the word of modern science.

İmage

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Is this the sort of "evidence" you're running this thread on? lol

You know about the moon illusion, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_illusion

Reason suggests the same effect applies to the sun near the horizon?

Your Wiki link offers "possible explanations" which, what???
Science can't do better than possibilities?

Irwin Shapiro,
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics

“The best possible explanation for the Moon is observational error – the Moon doesn’t exist.’

"The Moon is bigger than it should be, apparently older than it should be and much lighter in mass than it should be. It occupies an unlikely orbit and is so extraordinary that all existing explanations for its presence are fraught with difficulties are none of them could be considered remotely watertight."

Christopher Knight and Alan Bulter
Book: Who Built the Moon?

The Moon has astonishing synchronicity with the Sun. When the Sun is at its lowest and weakest in mid-winter, the Moon is at its highest and brightest, and the reverse occurs in mid-summer. Both set at the same point on the horizon at the equinoxes and at the opposite point at the solstices. What are the chances that the Moon would naturally find an orbit so perfect that it would cover the Sun at an eclipse and appear from Earth to be the same size? What are chances that the alignments would be so perfect at the equinoxes and solstices?
06-23-2019, 05:17 AM #187
RiskyRob Master Blaster
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(31 minutes ago)Fallingdown Wrote:  
(58 minutes ago)RiskyRob Wrote:  
(2 hours ago)FD. Wrote:  
(9 hours ago)RiskyRob Wrote:  
(10 hours ago)FD. Wrote:  This is how the sun moves in the real world .

İmage


 Why don’t they match ?


Go

I wonder if the skyloons deflate?

Not sure about the sky part. But she definitely got Loon right .

Freudian slip ?


This thread is creating a buzz on other boards, and new people are now coming to Kritterbox.

Grav was insulated and protected on another forum .

She was good for clicks but even they got fed up with her nonsense.

Now she’s fending off the wolves that are tracking her down .

Good Times

It's sort of pathetic for "the wolves" to be so threatened by a conspiracy theory.
06-23-2019, 05:20 AM #188
grav Member
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Whatup, FD? Can I go anywhere without a posse of globelins galloping after me?
Sheesh.
And is it hot enough for you?

It's funny how we have summer here in the US of A when earth is 3 million miles further from the sun than we are in January.
That darn tilt! A couple hundred miles axial tilt (66.6°) makes a yuuge difference.
İmage
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
06-23-2019, 07:40 AM #189
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(2 hours ago)grav Wrote:  Whatup, FD? Can I go anywhere without a posse of globelins galloping after me?
Sheesh.
And is it hot enough for you?

It's funny how we have summer here in the US of A when earth is 3 million miles further from the sun than we are in January.
That darn tilt! A couple hundred miles axial tilt (66.6°) makes a yuuge difference.

İmage

It's all to do with the angle of incidence... but then you know this because you've been told many times before.
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06-23-2019, 08:04 AM #190
RiskyRob Master Blaster
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Angle of Incidence. The smaller the angle, the greater the surface area over which the sun's rays spread. This effect reduces the sun's intensity in any one place. For example, at a 45 degree angle of incidence, solar radiation covers a 40 percent greater area and is 30 percent less intense than at the maximum angle of incidence of 90 degrees.
06-23-2019, 08:10 AM #191
Paix Member
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Hi,
Nice but most of it would be beyond people without having a degree in the related field i.e.Physics or Astronomy.Please have it sent to some institute dealing with this with request to share  with kitterbox their inference.Thank you.

Truly Yours
Paix



(06-08-2019, 11:20 PM)Anonymous Kritter Wrote:  
(06-08-2019, 10:56 PM)Octo Wrote:  Sure you can make your case regarding flat earth. Just make sense and provide evidence,  cheers.gif

Excellent! yay.gif

1. Curvature. Spherical trigonometry dictates that the globe should exhibit a curve of 8 inches per mile squared. No experiments on land or water have ever proven this math to be accurate. On the contrary, with proper telephoto lenses, objects can be detected far beyond the expected curvature. Example: Photos of Chicago from across Lake Michigan.

2. Atmosphere vs space vacuum. Space theoretically begins 62 miles above the earth’s surface, at the Karman Line. The laws of physics say that a vacuum can not exist next to an atmosphere. Without a barrier to separate the two areas, the atmosphere would instantly escape into the hard vacuum of space. Example: open a tank of compressed air; the oxygen or other gases inside the tank will rush outside to achieve equilibrium of air pressure. A vacuum cannot exist next to the atmosphere.

3. Water. Liquid water always seeks its own level. Gravity, which is really the function of density (weight) of objects over distances, cannot cause oceans to curve around the globe. Sea level must be consistent throughout the world. Water, in other words, can not curve. Example: the Pacific Ocean, sea level.

4. Centrifugal force. If earth rotated at 1000 mph at the equator, nothing could withstand being thrown off of it along a curved or tangential path. Gravity is said to be the weakest force in the universe. It is, under any circumstances, unable to overcome the extreme speed of rotation. Gravity is actually the ratio of densities of adjacent objects, such as the density of water compared to that of air.. Examples include insects, clouds, smoke, other low density-objects which rise above the earth despite the alleged gravity and centrifugal force. Example: merry-go-rounds.

5. Authorities.  Professionals in many fields --pilots, engineers, surveyors, gunners, artillerymen, radar operators, etc. -- do not account for curvature in any manner. Example: surveyors never adjust for earth curvature when they design canals, causeway bridges, railroad lines.

6 Moon and sun. Both objects appear to the eye to be the same size, though the moon is around 238,000 miles away and the sun is 93 million miles distant. Sunlight beams deny the claim that rays enter earth’s atmosphere in parallel beams. Using simple geometry, one can determine that the triangular pattern results in a distance of only 3000 miles above. The moon emits a cooling light which illuminates only the clouds which are near it, not those that are further away. Example: sunlight beaming rays through clouds (crepuscular rays) form a triangle with a base of less than 8,000 miles miles

7. Constellations. Star patterns have not altered appreciably in human history. Considering speeds of celestial objects which travel billions of miles per year in multiple directions, as well as earth’s own rotation, revolution around the sun, following the sun through the universe, we should observe some changes in as little as 6 months (stellar parallax). But no such changes have been seen in 6000 years. Example: Orion, Polaris  in the same locations for millennia.

8. Airplane travel. Flights to and from countries in the southern hemisphere always pass over countries in the north, even though they could refuel in places along a direct route. When plotted on the flat earth map, the planes show that they follow a straight line. Example: flights between South America, Africa, Australia.. 

9. No Sensation of movement. If earth actually rotated and revolved around the sun at 67,000 mph, we should hear sonic booms and be swept away by winds far beyond hurricane strength.       Examples: quiet, calm days, east-to-west winds

10. Photographs of earth from space. There are no legitimate pictures or videos of earth.  All pictorial evidence is computer-generated, as are almost all photos of celestial objects. NASA even says that these photographs were created to “match people’s expectations.”  
Other evident fakery from space agencies, including the ISS and the Space Shuttle, further supports the argument that our ideas about space are entirely faked.

[İmage

1. clouds don't move during the 5-hour transit
2. size of the US is wrong -- at 3000 miles wide, it should be 3/8th the diameter of the blue sphere (8000 miles)
3. moon is 2-dimensionally flat and does not rotate clockwise as advertised by Nasa
4. moon travels in a straight line while the EPIC "geostationary" satellite maintained an amazing fixed position
5. earth exhibits a curious pareidolia in the appearance of an angry clown with one eye closed and the other one open and baleful (the dark object off the coast of California)
Overall, a slipshod product, its many glaring peculiarities a test of human discernment.

(06-08-2019, 11:46 PM)RiskyRob Wrote:  Example: Photos of Chicago from across Lake Michigan.

So you're saying people can see ground-level Chicago from long distances across Lake Michigan? I think, depending on the distance, you would see just the tops of buildings.

Why don't you go and see for yourself?

İmage
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
06-23-2019, 10:35 AM #192
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(5 hours ago)grav Wrote:  Whatup, FD? Can I go anywhere without a posse of globelins galloping after me?
Sheesh.
And is it hot enough for you?

It's funny how we have summer here in the US of A when earth is 3 million miles further from the sun than we are in January.
That darn tilt! A couple hundred miles axial tilt (66.6°) makes a yuuge difference.
İmage

So you are back to the Sun being real today ? What happened to uuuge spotlight hanging off a "Skyloon" ?
06-23-2019, 04:15 PM #193
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(8 hours ago)RiskyRob Wrote:  Angle of Incidence. The smaller the angle, the greater the surface area over which the sun's rays spread. This effect reduces the sun's intensity in any one place. For example, at a 45 degree angle of incidence, solar radiation covers a 40 percent greater area and is 30 percent less intense than at the maximum angle of incidence of 90 degrees.

İmage
And where is the empirical evidence to support this rationale?
The sun's light hits the earth directly, like water pouring down on a roof.
If the angle made any difference, summer temperatures across the US would also reflect this ridiculous claim. But I have been in Illinois before when temps were higher than they were in southern states.

I also note that any anonymous poster who quickly responds to my points with establishment bs must be a shill, a paid employee of the Control System.
I calls 'em like I see 'em.
06-23-2019, 04:23 PM #194
RiskyRob Master Blaster
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(7 minutes ago)grav Wrote:  
(8 hours ago)RiskyRob Wrote:  Angle of Incidence. The smaller the angle, the greater the surface area over which the sun's rays spread. This effect reduces the sun's intensity in any one place. For example, at a 45 degree angle of incidence, solar radiation covers a 40 percent greater area and is 30 percent less intense than at the maximum angle of incidence of 90 degrees.

İmage
And where is the empirical evidence to support this rationale?
The sun's light hits the earth directly, like water pouring down on a roof.
If the angle made any difference, summer temperatures across the US would also reflect this ridiculous claim. But I have been in Illinois before when temps were higher than they were in southern states.

I also note that any anonymous poster who quickly responds to my points with establishment bs must be a shill, a paid employee of the Control System.
I calls 'em like I see 'em.

No, I don't think we rate paid shills on Kritterbox. I was just joking about him launching skyloons.
Anonymous Kritter Show this Post
06-23-2019, 04:34 PM #195
Anonymous Kritter Incognito Anonymous
 
(18 minutes ago)grav Wrote:  
(8 hours ago)RiskyRob Wrote:  Angle of Incidence. The smaller the angle, the greater the surface area over which the sun's rays spread. This effect reduces the sun's intensity in any one place. For example, at a 45 degree angle of incidence, solar radiation covers a 40 percent greater area and is 30 percent less intense than at the maximum angle of incidence of 90 degrees.

İmage
And where is the empirical evidence to support this rationale?
The sun's light hits the earth directly, like water pouring down on a roof.
If the angle made any difference, summer temperatures across the US would also reflect this ridiculous claim. But I have been in Illinois before when temps were higher than they were in southern states.

I also note that any anonymous poster who quickly responds to my points with establishment bs must be a shill, a paid employee of the Control System.
I calls 'em like I see 'em.

lmao.gif it makes quite a difference how long you leave the heating on
ever noticed summer days are much longer than winter days?



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